g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 726 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4511 times:
I've noticed several European airlines have one or two DC3s that they keep in excellent condition. Lufthansa even has a Junker. What exactly do they do with those airplanes? do they take people up for a ride or is it just for show?
columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
These planes are used for sightseeing flights with passengers. Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 2, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4493 times:
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The Martinair and KLM painted DC-3 actually belong to the Dutch Dakota Association rather then the respective airlines. KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7710 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4406 times:
Quoting columba (Reply 1): Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished
Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service. Alas they have stripped the aeroplane (or is it TWO aeroplanes to make ONE?) down so much, they don't know how to put them back together. There's more to it than that but they are in trouble. To give you an idea, the plan includes a glass cockpit. It's way more than a rebuild.
I wish them well and hope it comes to fruition, but the project is "troubled" - let us say. Anyone know more?
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g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 726 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4243 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4): Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service
WOW..... FRA-JNB in a constellation, that sounds fun (and expensive for the ticket buyer)
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2): KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.
KLM has send the ex Royal Dutch Family DC-3 PH-PBA on promotional tours to Linkoping, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Basle, Milano Linate, Rome FCO and Urbe, Venetie, Nurnberg, Frankfurt and more is to come for sure!
The DDA is actually looking for a new sponsor for the DC-3 DDZ and DC-4 PH-DDS.
The Dutch DC-3s are afaik the only ones flying on an AOC in Europe; meaning they operate like an airline and are allowed to carry passengers instead of members of a foundation.
IRISH251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 925 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3122 times:
Other than the Lufthansa Ju-52, I don't think any of those aircraft are owned or operated by the airline whose livery is worn. It is more likely a case of their operators being permitted to carry the livery and some financial support or sponsorship being given too, in some cases.
ScottishDavie From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2011, 150 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
I flew on D-AQUI (Lufthansa's Ju52) about 15 years ago while she was visiting GLA. The flight, a birthday present from my wife, nearly didn't happen because of fog but eventually it cleared sufficiently for a slightly curtailed trip. It was a bit like being in a flying Pullman railway carriage and when we touched down at the end the steward announced with great solemnity "Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry to say you have to get off". It was a wonderful experience and if you get the chance grab it with both hands!
SRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 694 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
The FI one is mostly used for airshows. It was bought from the state in 2006 by the club "Thristavinafelagid" (Friends of DC3s Association) and painted in FI colours. I've actually flown it once! So much fun.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 22, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2377 times:
Quoting larspl (Reply 21): Indeed, before the current liveries from the 60ties, she was painted in Retro Airfrance on one side and Retro KLM on the other side.
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