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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5503 times:
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I've noticed several European airlines have one or two DC3s that they keep in excellent condition. Lufthansa even has a Junker. What exactly do they do with those airplanes? do they take people up for a ride or is it just for show?



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User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

These planes are used for sightseeing flights with passengers. Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished


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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1858 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5485 times:
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The Martinair and KLM painted DC-3 actually belong to the Dutch Dakota Association rather then the respective airlines. KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.

Martijn



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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5432 times:

SK and Douglas was tight for many decades, from the DC-3 to DC-10
"Daisy" (DC-3) flies from BMA out over the Baltic n back.

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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8084 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5398 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 1):
Lufthansa also has a Lockheed Starliner that is currently being restored and will be better then new when it will finally be finished

Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service. Alas they have stripped the aeroplane (or is it TWO aeroplanes to make ONE?) down so much, they don't know how to put them back together. There's more to it than that but they are in trouble. To give you an idea, the plan includes a glass cockpit. It's way more than a rebuild.

I wish them well and hope it comes to fruition, but the project is "troubled" - let us say. Anyone know more?



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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5235 times:
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4):
Yeah, if they ever finish it! The plan is not just to fly around around Berlin (like the Ju-52) but operate full-on "air cruise" holidays like FRA-JNB and take a week to get there with beyond-first class service

WOW..... FRA-JNB in a constellation, that sounds fun (and expensive for the ticket buyer)

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2):
KLM does use the KLM painted one a lot though for promotional flights etc.

thanks, that's what I thought


User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5235 times:
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that Icelandair DC3 looks sharp. Those colors suit that DC3

User currently offlinepegasus1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

All being well, I'll be flying on her in October....

[Edited 2012-07-28 12:22:21]

User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5163 times:
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Quoting pegasus1 (Reply 7):
Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

All being well, I'll be flying on her in October....

I'll definetly check it out if i ever do a trip to Berlin..

flying in a Junkers would be something I'd never forget


User currently offlineSQ22 From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5131 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 8):
I'll definetly check it out if i ever do a trip to Berlin..

flying in a Junkers would be something I'd never forget

Actually the Junkers is based in HAM, but flying around Germany.

Quoting pegasus1 (Reply 7):
Here's a link to the flying programme and booking tool for Lufthansa's Ju52 "Tante Ju' ("Auntie Ju"):

http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/index.php

Furthermore there you'll have a overview about all projects, they are also restoring a Focke-Wulf FW 200, but this aircraft will never fly again.


User currently offlinelarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Perfect topic!

for the flight program of the KLM DC-3 www.dutchdakota.nl
They are also picking up on www.facebook.com/DDAclassicairlines

KLM has send the ex Royal Dutch Family DC-3 PH-PBA on promotional tours to Linkoping, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Basle, Milano Linate, Rome FCO and Urbe, Venetie, Nurnberg, Frankfurt and more is to come for sure!
The DDA is actually looking for a new sponsor for the DC-3 DDZ and DC-4 PH-DDS.

The Dutch DC-3s are afaik the only ones flying on an AOC in Europe; meaning they operate like an airline and are allowed to carry passengers instead of members of a foundation.



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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5041 times:
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Looks like KLM (or the Dutch) like to hang on to those old beauties. They also have a DC-2


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

The Ju is here in Mainz often. An absolute great sound, safe to spot even if there are clouds just by the unique sound.

User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Thanks for the schedule - wow - it makes more cycles than a new A380...

User currently offlineIRISH251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 966 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Other than the Lufthansa Ju-52, I don't think any of those aircraft are owned or operated by the airline whose livery is worn. It is more likely a case of their operators being permitted to carry the livery and some financial support or sponsorship being given too, in some cases.

User currently offlineScottishDavie From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

I flew on D-AQUI (Lufthansa's Ju52) about 15 years ago while she was visiting GLA. The flight, a birthday present from my wife, nearly didn't happen because of fog but eventually it cleared sufficiently for a slightly curtailed trip. It was a bit like being in a flying Pullman railway carriage and when we touched down at the end the steward announced with great solemnity "Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry to say you have to get off". It was a wonderful experience and if you get the chance grab it with both hands!

User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 880 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

The FI one is mostly used for airshows. It was bought from the state in 2006 by the club "Thristavinafelagid" (Friends of DC3s Association) and painted in FI colours. I've actually flown it once! So much fun. 


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12134 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Doesn't DL still have and fly this baby............?????

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=1e30b7b47f53e72fd243eac805ce0133

AA has this one, too. Thier DC-3s had the passenger loading door on the right side of the air

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Ameri...d=c2b01a81ab5ca434cb073591f792e14b

Sorry, I don't know how to post pictures, perhaps someone else can.


User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3602 times:
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I have seen that AA DC3, it is truly a beauty... Flew into Dulles for some museum thing

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
Sorry, I don't know how to post pictures, perhaps someone else can.

here you go


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User currently offlinelarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

The KLM DC-3 has some appearances scheduled in Germany as well; Dusseldorf, Egelsbach and Munster.


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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
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Quoting larspl (Reply 19):
The KLM DC-3 has some appearances scheduled in Germany as well; Dusseldorf, Egelsbach and Munster.

I looked at the history of the KLM DC3, it used be painted in Air France's colors. WOW it looks just as sharp as the KLM livery


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User currently offlinelarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Indeed, before the current liveries from the 60ties, she was painted in Retro Airfrance on one side and Retro KLM on the other side.


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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25112 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Quoting larspl (Reply 21):
Indeed, before the current liveries from the 60ties, she was painted in Retro Airfrance on one side and Retro KLM on the other side.

Can see where the two liveries met on the nose.


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User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 914 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

There's a Finnish one too, Aero (ex-AY) DC-3 "Skytrooper", taken care by a DC-3 club.


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User currently offlinelarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

i'm clearly screwing up this picture adding thing.. have to get back later.

[Edited 2012-07-31 01:08:54]


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25 aerdingus : The SR DC3 was in GRO last week,. absolutely beautiful, & a big surprise!
26 Post contains links and images g500 : as far as the America's go, we'got some beauties as well, courtesy of TWA View Large View MediumPhoto © Gerhard PlomitzerView Large View MediumPhoto
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