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New Movie- "Flight"  
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 18094 times:

It appears that there's a new movie being released about a man who miraculously lands a plane after a mid-air-collision, however questions arise after the crash. Stars Denzel Washington and Don Cheadle.

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/flight/

Looks like they used a SK MD82 or 87 for the aircraft and retitled it and added winglets in the studio. Looks like a pretty good movie though.

Also, this opens up the door to all the innaccuracies to be pointed out and criticized by everyone!     

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User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 17840 times:

I am really looking forward to this. Out Nov 2 in the USA. Not sure about Europe, hopefully around the same time. I like Denzel a lot, just rewatched The Book Of Eli the other day - what a great movie.

I wonder where they got the plane from. I don't mean it's a mystery, but what was it's history? It's true the fictitious airline's livery looks like SAS, a prolific DC-9 / Mad Dog operator.

Speaking of black pilots and scrapped planes being used in movies, Soul Plane is a bit of a shocker but the all-gold control wheels (from a Tristar) in that movie are for sale at a scrapyard I know. Wish the movie had been better, cos it would be awesome to own them!

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User currently offlinelitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17393 times:
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Anyone know what actual aircraft was used?

It's clearly a mad-dog of some kind, but just because the fictitious airline livery "looks like" a particular real-world airline's livery, doesn't mean the plane itself is a retired example from that particular airline.

Movie budgets can easily cover painting an airplane.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17306 times:

Looks like a good movie!!


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User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1042 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 17159 times:

It isn't after a mid air collision but the incident is based on the Alaska flt which crashed into the pacific after the horizontal stab jackscrew problem.

i am looking forward to the movie's release though.

Regarding Denzel's solution to the incident in the movie. From capt vandeburgh (of AA fame), "Guys and gals, you don't have the pitch authority to fly inverted near or at pattern airspeeds period . . . Period." In addition transport category aircraft roll rates are abysmal compared with acrobatic aircraft.



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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 16930 times:

Quoting litz (Reply 2):

What I meantwas that it looked like they used a template of a SK MD82.

Quoting woodreau "It isn't after a mid air collision but the incident is based of the Alaska flt which crashed into the Pacific after the horizontal stab jackscrew problem"

I guess I misread incident as collision. My bad. Either way, I can't wait to see it!


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2388 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16912 times:

Looks like a good movie, cant wait for it to come out!


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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16808 times:

The plot sounds like 'Airport '75', with Linda Blair and Charlton Heston.


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User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 585 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16675 times:

Quoting woodreau (Reply 4):
inverted near or at pattern airspeeds period . . . Period." In addition transport category aircraft roll rates are abysmal compared with acrobatic aircraft.

Watch out for absolutes! It is my understanding a certain (now retired) delta winged transport rolled just fine in real life and the sim.

Certain Canadian built transport aircraft from Montreal also have a roll rate that would amaze most folks. If you take weight off the wings (aka MD-80 series) the roll inertia is greatly reduced!

Cheers!

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User currently offlinekazim786 From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16261 times:

I watched a fairly recent film last night called Airborne and is about a red-eye flight from the UK to JFK. Its the last flight to depart because of a storm approaching. What I found really odd was that there were only about 10 passengers and the aircraft they were using was a 747 (200/300 series). Although there are tonne of inaccuracies aviation wise, its quite a good horror flick.

User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15971 times:

If you ask me this is just another movie that gives all of us pilots a bad rep and give the public false stereotypes of how the aviation industry actually is. Not to mention I know people who won't eat meals on planes after they saw "Airplane!"  

Anyway I already have plans with a bunch of my flying buddies to go see it the day it comes out.   



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15573 times:

Quoting woodreau (Reply 4):
In addition transport category aircraft roll rates are abysmal compared with acrobatic aircraft.

You'd be surprised. Nothing like a fighter but..



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User currently offlineSkedGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 137 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15346 times:
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Quoting litz (Reply 2):
Anyone know what actual aircraft was used?

It's clearly a mad-dog of some kind, but just because the fictitious airline livery "looks like" a particular real-world airline's livery, doesn't mean the plane itself is a retired example from that particular airline.

Movie budgets can easily cover painting an airplane.

The interior is an AA S80 based on the seats and side panels.


User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15306 times:

Score another for the Georgia Film Commission

User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 14191 times:

Quoting n797mx (Reply 10):
If you ask me this is just another movie that gives all of us pilots a bad rep and give the public false stereotypes of how the aviation industry actually is. Not to mention I know people who won't eat meals on planes after they saw "Airplane!"

Really? From the previews this film seems to vilify the FAA/NTSB..

Quoting woodreau (Reply 4):

It isn't after a mid air collision but the incident is based on the Alaska flt which crashed into the pacific after the horizontal stab jackscrew problem.

Reminds me of AS 261 and the United/US Air 737 crash..

Quoting spiritair97 (Thread starter):
added winglets in the studio

Exterior model appears to be 100% CGI. Thankfully the cockpit and cabin seem to be true, or at least "more true than most films," to an MD-80.



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User currently onlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 13756 times:

Looks like a good movie. I want to see it. Of course there will be inaccuracies in regards to aviation. What industry does Hollywood NOT exaggerate? Every cop movie ever made has things in it that police officers would just shake their heads and say "Yeah, that never happens in real life..."

I for one will go see it. As long as Snoop Dogg doesn't fly the 747.... I'm in  



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 13650 times:

Just realized the airport in the beginning is ATL. The red buildings is Delta North and you can make out the Southwest Hanger and a DL 330 resting to the side of it.


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User currently offlineyanqui67 From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2005, 508 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 13635 times:

This is the plane used.
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User currently offlineF9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5053 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 13539 times:

Denzel is one of my favorite actors. This movie will be good, as he has not let me down! It may not be perfect to us aviation nuts, but its going to have a good story line!


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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 556 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 13393 times:

First he saves a train, now he's saved a plane.... Next will be a ship and a bus... Oh wait Sandra Bullock beat him to them.  

However, I will deffinately be there on opening night to see it.



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User currently offlineKAUST From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 95 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11340 times:

Interestingly enough; it should/could be stated that Bob Zemeckis is himself an IFR-rated pilot. So hopefully he will be able to bring plenty of accuracy to balance out the "Hollywood-ized" glamour, such as he did with "Forrest Gump".


Here's to hoping! 


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User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8731 times:

I thought it was interesting to see winglets on a MD... Anyone else notice that?

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 21):
I thought it was interesting to see winglets on a MD... Anyone else notice that?

Yup

Quoting spiritair97 (Thread starter):
Looks like they used a SK MD82 or 87 for the aircraft and retitled it and added winglets in the studio. Looks like a pretty good movie though.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1027 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7932 times:

Gentalmen and ladies,

I happen to be a close friend to the one behind the Aviation Mockups used in the film “FLIGHT”. Doug Scroggins with Scroggins Aviation (www.scrogginsaviation.com ) supplies two MD80 series airplanes. In short what I can tell you is the crash plane is made up from two aircraft. The cockpit is an ex-Delta, MD88, N901DL and the rest is from an ex-American MD82, N442AA. The studio plane was an ex-Continental MD82, N16807, only the forward fuselage was used. Scroggins Aviaiton is the same company that did ABCs, Pan Am (2011) and NBCs, THE EVENT (2010). I hear thatAirlinerWorld magazine is running a story about the company in the next few months. Written by Nicholas A. Veronico.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/boeing767mech/FLIGHTset1.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/boeing767mech/DougonsetFLIGHT2011.jpg



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7837 times:

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 23):

So the winglets are real I see.

Off of what a/c are the wings then? Or did they really engineer winglets on an MD wing?



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25 rmoore7734 : That is the tail-cone of a DC-9 & not an MD-80
26 Post contains links and images tribird1011 : Actually, early build MD80's had the DC9 cone type tail. Not sure when along the productiuon line they were modified to the flat tail. MD-82 above, M
27 spiritair97 : Is it me or does the left wing in the picture look fake? It just looks brighter and more hi-res than everything else in the picture. Thanks for shari
28 rmoore7734 : Thanks for correction on the early MD-80's
29 flightsimer : The MD-80 series saw the first "screwdriver" tail cone with the introduction of the MD-87 in 1987, seven years after the first deliveries. Approximat
30 boeing767mech : That is from the angle of the camera and sun reflections. The crash footage is all actual aircraft parts. The winglets are made of wood. David
31 rmoore7734 : Yes that is actual ac parts. i know because this was done right up the road from me in covington ga & amazing to see from the road. Due to my ign
32 boeing767mech : I just talked to Doug at Scroggins Aviation and he said N442AA came from Roswell, NM., and the other two are from Mojave, CA. David
33 N766UA : Wow, "Gimme Shelter" in a movie trailer, that's original! I dunno, I think it looks kinda dumb, but that's just me.
34 garpd : Excellent pictures, thank you for sharing. Interesting to note that there is no disturbance behind the aircraft. One assumes the trail the aircraft w
35 Kiwiinoz : Actually, he saves a boat in the movie "Deja Vu".
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