spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 57028 times:
I already love it! Can't wait to see it in full colors, however! When is it gonna be painted?
NWADTWE16 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 242 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 57044 times:
I think this bird will really restore the elegance BA used to carry..even though im a VS fan, bravo BA..wish you had your older scheme on it though..someone should do a renduring of an A380 in the BA circa 1996 scheme
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 56898 times:
This has probably been answered ten times over, but when is the estimated EIS?
OllieJolly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 54750 times:
I literally choked on my fizzy vimto when I saw this, I am so excited to see it in full.
Really really excited.
Can't even contain my excitement, that's how excited I am.
So excited.
Too much of a tease though, this, must be honest.
SXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2005 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 53818 times:
Quoting OllieJolly (Reply 13): I literally choked on my fizzy vimto when I saw this, I am so excited to see it in full.
Really really excited.
Can't even contain my excitement, that's how excited I am.
So excited.
Too much of a tease though, this, must be honest.
So how are you going to feel when its in the full BA colors?
This is going to be one good looking plane! I do however agree with the fellow member who wishes to see the Landor livery on it. The 777 really rocked it though!
Out of curiosity when was the last time BA introduced a new a/c type to its fleet ( I am NOT talking about another variant )
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
jetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1198 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 53147 times:
motorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 49943 times:
Looking forward to seeing what BA does with the interiors. Presumably will be four class but what will the configuration be? And what new innovations, quirks, differences are to be introduced?
So just the VS jets to come (from Europe) after this?
IBOAviator From Canada, joined Sep 2010, 120 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 48512 times:
Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 3): I think this bird will really restore the elegance BA used to carry
Hmmm... not that BA isn't already carrying the elegance it serves but yes, I agree... BA's 380 will revive their existing livery due to the shear size of the aircraft-- sometimes things are appreciated in their bigger form.
ATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1361 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 48191 times:
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 14): This is going to be one good looking plane! I do however agree with the fellow member who wishes to see the Landor livery on it. The 777 really rocked it though!
The Tristar -1/200's really really rocked that scheme, it would look good on the 380 as well!
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10671 posts, RR: 100 Reply 21, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 47474 times:
viscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 44697 times:
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 14): I do however agree with the fellow member who wishes to see the Landor livery on it. The 777 really rocked it though!
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYY???? The dirty grey colour scheme was VILE. I was just as unimpressed with the UA "Camouflage Colours". I simply don't get the attraction. The current BA livery is SO much better
FCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 471 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 44233 times:
The BA A380 is gonna be a special ride, I don't think it will be anything outlandish or gawdy interior-wise, but I reckon there will definately be some exciting differences too.
BA will keep it toned-down and understated as always, it'll be a very classy ride.
mikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 43032 times:
Wowzer !!!
Quoting IBOAviator (Reply 19): I agree... BA's 380 will revive their existing livery due to the shear size of the aircraft-- sometimes things are appreciated in their bigger form.
It's weird but on occasion from the departure lounge I have seen an A380 trundle past Terminal 5 and compared to a 747-400 there doesn't seem to be alot in it.
However, I am sure this is just illusionary and due to the A380's stocky nature.
Flying is like sex - I've never had all I wanted but occasionally I've had all I can stand.
What's amusing about your comments is the fact VS was the 1st UK carrier to order the A380 but appears they'll never accept delivery of the A380 lol... Sorry couldn't help myself...
Dano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 403 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 41994 times:
The new version features a 4t increase in maximum take-off weight to 573t and an additional 190km (100nm) range that will enable it to fly distances of 15,360km on MTOW-limited missions. Maximum landing weight and maximum zero fuel weight have also each increased by 2t, and structural payload capability rises by 1.5t on MZFW-limited missions.
Children should only be allowed on aircraft if 1. Muzzled and heavily sedated 2. Go as freight
SKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1326 posts, RR: 2 Reply 32, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 40661 times:
Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 32): The new version features a 4t increase in maximum take-off weight to 573t and an additional 190km (100nm) range that will enable it to fly distances of 15,360km on MTOW-limited missions. Maximum landing weight and maximum zero fuel weight have also each increased by 2t, and structural payload capability rises by 1.5t on MZFW-limited missions.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
I imagine some extra testing will be need to ensure that the aircraft can handle well under these increased conditions and that it does in fact fall within these specifications.
I can't see BA using the aircraft on any routes requiring the extra range but I imagine the extra payload capacity is the main attraction here, enabling increased cargo capacity.
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The new version features a 4t increase in maximum take-off weight to 573t and an additional 190km (100nm) range that will enable it to fly distances of 15,360km on MTOW-limited missions. Maximum landing weight and maximum zero fuel weight have also each increased by 2t, and structural payload capability rises by 1.5t on MZFW-limited missions.
Thanks !
Flying is like sex - I've never had all I wanted but occasionally I've had all I can stand.
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 38389 times:
They also took the first B777-200IGW (G-VIIA) as well, Boeing was NOT calling it the ' ER but old habits don't die and that's exactly what it became! Seeing a B744 next to the A380, I think the B744 looks tiny. It's more the A388 is massive!
virgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 411 posts, RR: 2 Reply 37, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 36168 times:
I agree this will be a fantastic looking bird..... in the classy BA livery.....
Quoting EK413 (Reply 28): What's amusing about your comments is the fact VS was the 1st UK carrier to order the A380 but appears they'll never accept delivery of the A380 lol... Sorry couldn't help myself...
I don't know if VS will ever get the A380... I just don't see the need for that kind of capacity... But I would love to see this livery on the A380 and flying in the skies.....
Wow, I love the shade of red on this bird! It's not the one they use right now, is it? Looks more... bordeaux.
Quoting eugegall (Reply 38): 1) Why are all tails painted on new aircraft prior to the full paint job?
As far as I know that's because the flight testing of every airframe is done much earlier than painting, but the mass of the paint on the tailfin gives better performance characteristics, due to shift of CG or so.
For what it's worth: My personal believe is that it has a lot to do with the "look at me, I own an A380" -factor. How would any not-nutter know what airline the bird belongs to if it weren't for the unmistakable logo on the tail..
// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 42, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 35454 times:
Quoting eugegall (Reply 38):
1) Why are all tails painted on new aircraft prior to the full paint job?
2) What routes do we expect this beauty to fly?
They need to check the rudder is properly in balance and this must be done with the weight of the paint already in play. As to where they're going to fly, there's a dozen or so threads on that very subject. I remember they did announce JFK which surprised a lot on here.
eljonno From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 43, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 34536 times:
Quoting viscount630 (Reply 22): WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYY???? The dirty grey colour scheme was VILE. I was just as unimpressed with the UA "Camouflage Colours". I simply don't get the attraction. The current BA livery is SO much better
Have to disagree strongly. Do a google search for the landor a380: it looks FIT!
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5285 posts, RR: 35 Reply 45, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 30226 times:
Quoting viscount630 (Reply 22): WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYY???? The dirty grey colour scheme was VILE. I was just as unimpressed with the UA "Camouflage Colours". I simply don't get the attraction. The current BA livery is SO much better
Have to agree. I never liked that Landor scheme, which was basically a warmed-over version of the '70's Negus & Negus one. The current BA livery is very smart and their best one so far, IMHO.
I think I'll faint. I love the Landor livery but I don't like it so much on the A380, some liveries just wouldn't work on it and I feel that is one of them.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2145 posts, RR: 7 Reply 53, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22276 times:
Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 3): wish you had your older scheme on it though
Like BOAC?
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 14): I do however agree with the fellow member who wishes to see the Landor livery on it.
Yuck
Someone please render the A380 in BOAC colors. Thanks
The early bird gets the worm, BUT...the second mouse gets the cheese!
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 54, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22201 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 52):
The pre-Landor livery would still look good today.
Indeed, when BA had G-CPET as a retrojet in that scheme last year, you had to look carefully to pick it out. It was interesting to see how similar in colour and tone the 1997 scheme is to the 1973 scheme.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24894 posts, RR: 60 Reply 55, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22125 times:
Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 46): This is a treat! Compliments to Jack Baldwin for taking the time to put this vision to reality..i miss the royal crown and the respect it commanded...
Classic I loved that livery was one of the best in the world.
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SKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1326 posts, RR: 2 Reply 57, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 21428 times:
All this discussion about how the A380 would look in the Landor livery etc is just elementary as it will never happen!! Maybe we should concentrate on the current livery and how it will be applied to the A380. Maybe there will be some changes?
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DID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1 Reply 58, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 20768 times:
totaly agree with you SKAirbus, the most important is to imagine the airliner the day she will be presented to the public, so a beautiful British Airways A380.
viscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0 Reply 62, posted (9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 19528 times:
That "Landor" A380 is in a rather pale grey..... Not the dirty grey it invariably turned out to be. Some of the "interim" liveries, between "Landor" and "World Tails" had a white fuselage on the "Landor" style scheme. They actually looked quite good!
That is the shade of red they are currently using. The only ones not using that shade are obviously the aircraft that have not yet been repainted and aso the two LGW/MAN based A330's. The two A330's at LHR are in this shade and so will future deliveries. However, the colour does seem to change in different light.
SKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1326 posts, RR: 2 Reply 66, posted (9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 18237 times:
Quoting Someone83 (Reply 65): BA is looking to defer first delivery of he first by a few months to Q3 2013
The reality is that IAG are in financial dire straits at the moment so I imagine that they will do anything to push back deliveries as far as they can. Hopefully we won't see BA cancel any A380s.
However, Iberia is causing the most damage financially... but they are one group now so unless they can improve we may see more cuts.
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EZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2448 posts, RR: 53 Reply 67, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17879 times:
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 66): However, Iberia is causing the most damage financially... but they are one group now so unless they can improve we may see more cuts.
Only because Willy Walsh used all of IB's cash to fund the new aircraft! IB were loaded pre-IAG
So was the Spanish economy, now it's hardly as if BA took over IB, if anything IB got BA.
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 66): The reality is that IAG are in financial dire straits at the moment so I imagine that they will do anything to push back deliveries as far as they can
I can imagine it's more along the likes of Airbus having no idea when the mods will be complete and BA refusing to take an unmodified aircraft, much as Emirates are playing hardball too. One thing BA would not push back by choice (IMHO!) is new long haul capacity. That's where the big money at LHR is to be made and those B744s are getting more complaints the older they get.
BA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 718 posts, RR: 0 Reply 69, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17459 times:
Quoting viscount630 (Reply 62):
That "Landor" A380 is in a rather pale grey..... Not the dirty grey it invariably turned out to be. Some of the "interim" liveries, between "Landor" and "World Tails" had a white fuselage on the "Landor" style scheme. They actually looked quite good!
RIP Dan-Air. Where the Secret was SERVICE.
The landor livery was white not grey like many models etc get wrong.
Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 67): Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 66):
However, Iberia is causing the most damage financially... but they are one group now so unless they can improve we may see more cuts.
Only because Willy Walsh used all of IB's cash to fund the new aircraft! IB were loaded pre-IAG
Before IAG IBs brand and customer product was and still is in parts a complete dated mess with a very poor customer focus track record. Walsh and IAG are putting that right slowly with the BA influence.
I'm sure IBs labour costs are higher than BAs too.
mikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2 Reply 73, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14709 times:
Quoting tonystan (Reply 70): BA announced today that deliveries could be delayed until the 3/4 of 2013!
This does not surprise me in the least.
Quoting virgincrew (Reply 72): , I think the A380 is an ugly beast of an aircraft and certainly not graceful...
Oh I don't know...considering what demands were placed on the design spec she's not a bad compromise..
Anyway it's not really about looks is it. Like ocean going liners the bigger they get the more money they make but the less aesthetically appealing they become.
Flying is like sex - I've never had all I wanted but occasionally I've had all I can stand.
AirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 611 posts, RR: 1 Reply 74, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14440 times:
Quoting virgincrew (Reply 72): I am not a fan of the A380, as I have mentioned on the other BA thread, I think the A380 is an ugly beast of an aircraft and certainly not graceful...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When I first saw it, the nose looked wrong. However, right now I think she is the best looking aircraft flying today. The wings do it for me. Their form is... incredible. Not straight easy-to-manufacture wings. Graceful, exactly right formed wings.
Anyway, here's a shot of the best looking aircraft, ever. G-BOA in Edinburgh:
tonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1174 posts, RR: 2 Reply 79, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11645 times:
Quoting BA174 (Reply 69): The landor livery was white not grey like many models etc get wrong.
Are you colour blind?????
Yes it was grey, and if the pics on here arent convincing enough pop down to the maintenance area of LHR, Im sure you will still find a handful of ground service equipment painted in the old Landor colours!
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6620 posts, RR: 17 Reply 83, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8649 times:
Quoting BA174 (Reply 69): The landor livery was white not grey like many models etc get wrong.
Not only the model makers but also apparently British Airways! When they launched the Landor livery in December 1984 they described the colours used as "pearl grey", "midnight blue" and "brilliant red" [Source: British Airways Press Release 4 December 1984.]
And here is what it says on page 94 of "British Airways Its History, Aircraft and Liveries" by Keith Gaskell [Airlife Publishing, Shrewsbury, 1999]:
"The aircraft livery . . . was based on a deeper midnight blue for the underside and engines and pearl grey for the upper fuselage and tail."
It was not just the upper fuselage but also the British Airways Heraldic Crest on the Landor livery upper tail that was "pearl grey" (and not white). And with the latest adaptation of the current Union Flag livery the crest, again apparently painted "pearl grey" has reappeared but is now positioned aft of the main fuselage titles:
Here it is worth noting that the fuselage and tail of aircraft painted in the current BA livery are painted "pearl white" and not white. Here is what the BA Press Release "Painting the skies" dated 10 June 1997 said - note again the use of the phrase "pearl grey" in describing the Landor livery:
"The main colour scheme for aircraft has been brightened and lightened, from pearl grey, dark red and near-black midnight blue to pearl white, and a warmer blue and red more akin toi the colours of the British Union Flag . . ."
Distinguishing between "white" and the current BA "pearl white" is virtually impossibke save only when an aircraft has been fitted with a (white) replacement nose cone or rudder as here:
Even then most would not notice the difference unless they actually looked for it. Indeed they might put the difference down to the aircraft being dirty. But if you search the photo data base for BA aircraft with replacement nose cones or rudders you will find the same difference on each example confirming that BA aircraft are painted what BA calls "pearl white" and not "white".
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 84, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8164 times:
Ah I disagree, BA currently is clearly off white. I suspect a pure white would look even better, however it's more noticeable when they have to slap on an all white nosecone. Incidentally the red from Landor was, I believe described as "speedwing red", alongside midnight blue and pearl grey. I must admit I like seeing the crest back on, it's actually a good comprimise having it semi invisible!
leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 86, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6847 times:
I still think that the interim scheme between Landor and World Tails was one of the best, you had the Landor tail design but with the rest of the a/c in the current scheme.
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