psumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4233 times:
Hey all! I'm in State College (SCE/KUNV) and we used to get the Colgan Saabs from IAD, now we're getting Commutair Q200's, since Colgan dumped the Saabs. I'm just wondering, who is picking up the Saabs or are they going away for good? I hardly see any on FlightAware anymore. I miss them, they were a nice change from the CRJ's and Dash 8's.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4227 times:
I think they are getting slowly phase out, but they are still in service or now. I know that IAD-HPN is operated by saabs.
hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2118 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3998 times:
Pinnacle owns Colgan and filed chapt 11 and I heard subsequently stated no more turboprops. Seen some colgan ferries to CWA over last couple months. Silver is at IAD with their ex Mesaba saabs and started up Aug 1 with some of the Colgan runs.
Kcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3628 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3904 times:
Pretty sure one is still somewhere at CRW, broken.
psumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3099 times:
Haha wow no love for the Saabs here I guess! Any chance another regional may pick up the ones that are parked, or is their time up? I'll definitely miss this scheme:
bluestreak From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3069 times:
This is olny a rumor, but I spoke to a Captain at Sea Port airlines yesterday, and he was saying they are looking to expand with 30 passenger planes soon. He added that the SAAB's were cheap and readily available. He was not sure where they would fly them. I have no facts to back this up, it's only what I heard from the Sea Port pilot, and have not seen anything from them about hiring F/A's.
"Well, we barely made the airport, for the last plane out, as we taxied down the runway, I could hear the people shout"
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3040 times:
dcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
United replaced Colgan Saabs at IAD with Commutair DHC-8-200s. So most of the Saab 340 stations should see now DHC-8.
Also, few EAS flights are run with Silver Airways aka Gulfstream Intl Saab 340s out of IAD.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2970 times:
I see they cut IAD-HPN all together. Was it performing poorly?
crj900lr From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2850 times:
Silver Airways is supposed to be adding a bunch of Saabs to the fleet. I believe its going to be a total of 24 so I would assume most are going to them. Last I heard they only had 6 and were adding them every few months.
dcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2821 times:
They are adding ex-Mesaba Saabs.
You can see on the latest Airways Magazine update that recently the got bunch of them.
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N402XJ 340B-402 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N414XJ 340B-414 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N418XJ 340B-418 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N420XJ 340B-420 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
07/21/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N434XJ 340B-434 BF Lambert Leasing 7/16/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N447XJ 340B-447 BF Lambert Leasing 7/30/12
psumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2687 times:
Yeah I noticed that Silver was picking up some routes and Commutair the rest, but what routes are those Commutair Dash 8's coming from? Are they cutting back some of the Cleveland ones? Thanks re the Q400s, good to hear they got picked up. Also, interesting about SeaPort, although like you said I would have no idea how they would use those.
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6512 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting psumd80 (Reply 8): Also, no more turboprops for Colgan/Pinnacle? Does that mean the Q400's are going too?
The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part. They buy Colgan then turn around and buy Mesaba from DL only for both operators to dissapear and Pinnacle to be left with NO a/c that belong to them. The Q400s (all Pinnacle owned) have been returned to Royal Canadian then subsequently to RP. The 16 ATL based CR9s (all Pinnacle owned) is following the same fate and are going to EV and OO. Only thing that will be left after March are 140 CR2s (DL holds the lease on every last one) and 41 CR9s (DL owns every last one...).
Sad
CAM2:"Lightning coming out of that one." CAM1: "What?"
I just flew to CWA yesterday and not surprisingly they're all still there. My captain and I were a bit surprised to see a Mesaba maintenance hangar at CWA.
psumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2330 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16): The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part
Yeah, what a waste indeed! Colgan had quite a few Saabs, how did UA make up the lost capacity in such a short time?
RDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1059 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16): The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part
It was actually a mutual request because Colgan was bleeding crews so quickly they were unable to crew their future schedules.
toltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3220 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 17): My captain and I were a bit surprised to see a Mesaba maintenance hangar at CWA.
Then you'd be really surprised to know that hanger has been there since the XJ crew base was there as well.....
United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7158 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1728 times:
We used to get Colgans 340's from BDL. I heard that it was mostly a Xerox shuttle . I especially liked the 'flag' paint schemed one. We also used to get XJ -340's from DTW.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
dcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1681 times:
Quoting toltommy (Reply 22): Then you'd be really surprised to know that hanger has been there since the XJ crew base was there as well.....
Hanger is in the closet. Hangar is at the airport.
25 TWA772LR: The 135s returned from the desert. At least in IAH. I miss the Q's. They were fun, fast, sporty little propeller planes. I loved flying them between
26 FlyASAGuy2005: My first time on a Q400 was RDU-EWR in 2010. I see the route is now a mix of Qs, 145s and 170s.
27 womenbeshoppin: The AOO and JST rotation see them from IAD. So there are a few in the Central/South PA area still.
28 psumd80: Yeah I did notice that, glad to see a few are still hanging around. I think the ones on that route are ex-Mesaba. Ah ok, that explains it. Weird thou
29 SaabFA71: It would be nice to see whatever Saabs UA/Express uses to serve LNS. That airport has been without air service since Cape Air left. It has a nice litt
30 RDH3E: It's because UA owns the 135's. Colgan was operating the Saab routes "at risk" aka Prorate. UA just picked up some of the markets with the 135's etc
31 LOWS: I saw this yesterday at IAD as I was connecting, down in the lower A area.