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Where Are The Colgan Saabs?  
User currently offlinepsumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

Hey all! I'm in State College (SCE/KUNV) and we used to get the Colgan Saabs from IAD, now we're getting Commutair Q200's, since Colgan dumped the Saabs. I'm just wondering, who is picking up the Saabs or are they going away for good? I hardly see any on FlightAware anymore. I miss them, they were a nice change from the CRJ's and Dash 8's.

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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5230 times:

I think they are getting slowly phase out, but they are still in service or now. I know that IAD-HPN is operated by saabs.

User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5001 times:

Pinnacle owns Colgan and filed chapt 11 and I heard subsequently stated no more turboprops. Seen some colgan ferries to CWA over last couple months. Silver is at IAD with their ex Mesaba saabs and started up Aug 1 with some of the Colgan runs.

User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4990 times:

The Saabs officially left the UAX fleet after operations on 7/31. Not sure what 9L is doing with the A/C though.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3804 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Pretty sure one is still somewhere at CRW, broken.

User currently offlineSulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 524 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

They're hopefully in a dumpster behind IAH.

[Edited 2012-08-03 10:59:27]


In thrust we trust!
User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 821 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

A few weeks ago there were 13 in CWA and 3 or 4 sitting in SGF.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
They're hopefully in a dumpster behind IAH.

  

Don't wish that on IAH, please!  



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User currently offlinepsumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Haha wow no love for the Saabs here I guess! Any chance another regional may pick up the ones that are parked, or is their time up? I'll definitely miss this scheme:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Colga...d=a648b3496e7e774e3636857f601c226d

Also, no more turboprops for Colgan/Pinnacle? Does that mean the Q400's are going too?


User currently offlinebluestreak From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

This is olny a rumor, but I spoke to a Captain at Sea Port airlines yesterday, and he was saying they are looking to expand with 30 passenger planes soon. He added that the SAAB's were cheap and readily available. He was not sure where they would fly them. I have no facts to back this up, it's only what I heard from the Sea Port pilot, and have not seen anything from them about hiring F/A's.


"Well, we barely made the airport, for the last plane out, as we taxied down the runway, I could hear the people shout"
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

Quoting psumd80 (Reply 8):

RP picked up the Q4s.

See:

First UA DEN Q400 Flight: 8/1 (by ChicagoJetSet Jul 30 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

United replaced Colgan Saabs at IAD with Commutair DHC-8-200s. So most of the Saab 340 stations should see now DHC-8.
Also, few EAS flights are run with Silver Airways aka Gulfstream Intl Saab 340s out of IAD.


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

I see they cut IAD-HPN all together. Was it performing poorly?

User currently offlinecrj900lr From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

Silver Airways is supposed to be adding a bunch of Saabs to the fleet. I believe its going to be a total of 24 so I would assume most are going to them. Last I heard they only had 6 and were adding them every few months.

User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

They are adding ex-Mesaba Saabs.

You can see on the latest Airways Magazine update that recently the got bunch of them.

08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N402XJ 340B-402 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N414XJ 340B-414 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N418XJ 340B-418 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N420XJ 340B-420 LF Fairbrook Leasing 7/27/12
07/21/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N434XJ 340B-434 BF Lambert Leasing 7/16/12
08/04/2012 Silver SAAB 340B N447XJ 340B-447 BF Lambert Leasing 7/30/12

http://www.airwaysmag.com/att.html?type=view&article_id=145&junk=.pdf


User currently offlinepsumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Yeah I noticed that Silver was picking up some routes and Commutair the rest, but what routes are those Commutair Dash 8's coming from? Are they cutting back some of the Cleveland ones? Thanks re the Q400s, good to hear they got picked up. Also, interesting about SeaPort, although like you said I would have no idea how they would use those.

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Quoting psumd80 (Reply 8):
Also, no more turboprops for Colgan/Pinnacle? Does that mean the Q400's are going too?

The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part. They buy Colgan then turn around and buy Mesaba from DL only for both operators to dissapear and Pinnacle to be left with NO a/c that belong to them. The Q400s (all Pinnacle owned) have been returned to Royal Canadian then subsequently to RP. The 16 ATL based CR9s (all Pinnacle owned) is following the same fate and are going to EV and OO. Only thing that will be left after March are 140 CR2s (DL holds the lease on every last one) and 41 CR9s (DL owns every last one...).

Sad



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3520 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 6):

I just flew to CWA yesterday and not surprisingly they're all still there. My captain and I were a bit surprised to see a Mesaba maintenance hangar at CWA.


User currently offlinepsumd80 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16):
The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part

Yeah, what a waste indeed! Colgan had quite a few Saabs, how did UA make up the lost capacity in such a short time?


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

Quoting psumd80 (Reply 18):
Yeah, what a waste indeed! Colgan had quite a few Saabs, how did UA make up the lost capacity in such a short time?

Just looking at a route I know pretty well, MGW-IAD, they put Silver (Gulfstream Airlines) on it, and cut frequencies.


User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

yup...there are no more saabs at the colgan barn at IAD...

User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16):
The Colgan draw down was expedited very recently by the request of UA to end the remainder of the flying early. The Colgan name will be no more...what a waste of time and money on Pinnacle's part

It was actually a mutual request because Colgan was bleeding crews so quickly they were unable to crew their future schedules.


User currently offlinetoltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 17):
My captain and I were a bit surprised to see a Mesaba maintenance hangar at CWA.

Then you'd be really surprised to know that hanger has been there since the XJ crew base was there as well.....


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7482 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

We used to get Colgans 340's from BDL. I heard that it was mostly a Xerox shuttle . I especially liked the 'flag' paint schemed one. We also used to get XJ -340's from DTW.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting toltommy (Reply 22):
Then you'd be really surprised to know that hanger has been there since the XJ crew base was there as well.....

Hanger is in the closet. Hangar is at the airport.


25 TWA772LR : The 135s returned from the desert. At least in IAH. I miss the Q's. They were fun, fast, sporty little propeller planes. I loved flying them between
26 FlyASAGuy2005 : My first time on a Q400 was RDU-EWR in 2010. I see the route is now a mix of Qs, 145s and 170s.
27 womenbeshoppin : The AOO and JST rotation see them from IAD. So there are a few in the Central/South PA area still.
28 psumd80 : Yeah I did notice that, glad to see a few are still hanging around. I think the ones on that route are ex-Mesaba. Ah ok, that explains it. Weird thou
29 SaabFA71 : It would be nice to see whatever Saabs UA/Express uses to serve LNS. That airport has been without air service since Cape Air left. It has a nice litt
30 RDH3E : It's because UA owns the 135's. Colgan was operating the Saab routes "at risk" aka Prorate. UA just picked up some of the markets with the 135's etc
31 Post contains images LOWS : I saw this yesterday at IAD as I was connecting, down in the lower A area.
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