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FR @ BUD. How Legal And Safe Is This?  
User currently offlinelmml 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

Ryanair at Budapest Int'l Airport, Hungary. With the collapse of MALEV, the Hungarian national airline, Ryanair stepped in as the resident airline. This is how it treats it's paying passengers - planes park at a remote stand to avoid paying the extra charge of the airbridge. The airport, being on its knees, converted one jetty into steps. Rain or shine, passengers are forced to walk 300mtrs to the plane on the tarmac, usually reserved for aicraft movements. Then they are made to wait for some 15 minutes in front of the plane, rain or shine, in the middle of the apron, few metres away from the plane as it is being re-fuelled, until the crew is ready to board. This is the closest stand. Visisble to the left of the plane is a makeshift walkway for passengers to walk to other Ryanair planes which are even further. A Ryanair open air terminal was created with metal barricades. This is what happens when Ryanair moves in where there is no national airline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLd43nf3SXQ

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12325 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10055 times:

Not really surprising; it's Ryanair's way or the highway. Bad enough in high Summer, but wait until the Winter! And of course, will the airport pay for shelters to cover pax walking across the apron - it certainly won't/can't charge FR.

And of course, it's a captive audience, because if the Hungarian govt threatens to impose any obligations on FR, it'll just up sticks and leave or cut back its operations. Malev may be gone, but Ryanair is certainly streets ahead when it comes to MALEVolence ...

It's certainly food for thought given Ryanair's designs on Aer Lingus and the way it would treat pax in Ireland if it had command of the market, as it hopes to.


User currently onlinesanti319 From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10049 times:

Like NK in the USA it is nobody's fault but the pax that want dirt cheap fares. They chose this....

User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9990 times:

I wonder if this will affect Ryanair since they are so price sensitive:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ne-fees-vilaggazdasag-reports.html


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15493 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9951 times:

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):

...not to mention the guards forcing people onto the planes at gunpoint. Oh, wait, they don't have that. Those people paid to be flying with Ryanair on their own. Never mind.



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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
Ryanair at Budapest Int'l Airport, Hungary. With the collapse of MALEV, the Hungarian national airline, Ryanair stepped in as the resident airline. This is how it treats it's paying passengers - planes park at a remote stand to avoid paying the extra charge of the airbridge. The airport, being on its knees, converted one jetty into steps. Rain or shine, passengers are forced to walk 300mtrs to the plane on the tarmac, usually reserved for aicraft movements. Then they are made to wait for some 15 minutes in front of the plane, rain or shine, in the middle of the apron, few metres away from the plane as it is being re-fuelled, until the crew is ready to board. This is the closest stand. Visisble to the left of the plane is a makeshift walkway for passengers to walk to other Ryanair planes which are even further. A Ryanair open air terminal was created with metal barricades. This is what happens when Ryanair moves in where there is no national airline.

I use it a lot, and it is really great! Pax love it as the boarding process is must faster and you can wait close to all the action instead of a hot airport building. More airlines use this btw.

Its also done on airports in Holland btw , like EIN, GRQ. Again more airlines do this. It makes the boarding process much nicer and faster for pax. No more waiting in long lines.

I dont know what your problem is with flying, but everyone agrees that the worst thing that can happen is a bus ride to your plane and wait packed like sardines till you can board.



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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9889 times:

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
Ryanair at Budapest Int'l Airport, Hungary. With the collapse of MALEV, the Hungarian national airline, Ryanair stepped in as the resident airline. This is how it treats it's paying passengers - planes park at a remote stand to avoid paying the extra charge of the airbridge.

Btw, Wizzair was and is resident. before Malev collapsed. All LCC1s park remote, never noticed that on your other flights? We want to fly for 20 euro, so you get to walk, whats the problem??



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1459 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9866 times:

To the title of your post. It is perfectly legal and very safe.

User currently offlineeurowings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9850 times:

Don't see the problem really.

Looks safe enough to me and it certainly beats crammed full buses that all airlines use - they can be particularly bad for anyone who struggles to stand up on a moving vehicle like my mother.

Passengers know to expect an experience without frills on FR and that is what they get. Unless the weather is awful, I don't see many passengers having an issue with it.

The passengers are railed in and can be seen by various members of staff on the ramp.

There are things I don't like about FR, but this is a non-issue for me. No one is forced to fly with FR from BUD, you can fly direct to many European destinations with W6 along with other LCCs such as EZY, LS, DY and 4U. There is also the option of charter flights to holiday destinations and a wide choice of legacies (BA, LX, LH, AF, KL, OS e.t.c) offering services via their hubs.

[Edited 2012-08-03 10:26:56]

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9852 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 7):
To the title of your post. It is perfectly legal and very safe

And more to the point, if it wasn't it would surely be BUD's responsibility as the provider of the facilities.



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User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9792 times:

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
Ryanair at Budapest Int'l Airport, Hungary. With the collapse of MALEV, the Hungarian national airline, Ryanair stepped in as the resident airline. This is how it treats it's paying passengers - planes park at a remote stand to avoid paying the extra charge of the airbridge. The airport, being on its knees, converted one jetty into steps. Rain or shine, passengers are forced to walk 300mtrs to the plane on the tarmac, usually reserved for aicraft movements. Then they are made to wait for some 15 minutes in front of the plane, rain or shine, in the middle of the apron, few metres away from the plane as it is being re-fuelled, until the crew is ready to board. This is the closest stand. Visisble to the left of the plane is a makeshift walkway for passengers to walk to other Ryanair planes which are even further. A Ryanair open air terminal was created with metal barricades. This is what happens when Ryanair moves in where there is no national airline.

I'm not sure if some of this is actually what goes on. Having had the "pleasure" of flying FR on several occasions, I can say that we were never made to stand on the tarmac. The process might happen differently at different airports, but on my FR flights, the crew boarded, the plane was stocked and refueled, and then passenger boarding was called. The only waiting we did was queuing up in the terminal to board, but once out on the tarmac, we boarded the plane immediately.

It's definitely a scenario where you get what you pay for. People who take advantage of FR's cheap services shouldn't expect red-carpet boarding. I don't really see anything unsafe here, to be completely honest.



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3767 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9753 times:

Can you please edit the title to:

"Thank you Ryanair for stepping in and providing cheap, friendly and on-time air service for my country when my expensive and often delayed national airline went bust"

Soren   



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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9703 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):
Can you please edit the title to:

"Thank you Ryanair for stepping in and providing cheap, friendly and on-time air service for my country when my expensive and often delayed national airline went bust"

Soren

Thanks Soren. That's so great.

KL911
Budapest



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User currently offlinelmml 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9634 times:

Quoting AA94 (Reply 10):
I'm not sure if some of this is actually what goes on. Having had the "pleasure" of flying FR on several occasions, I can say that we were never made to stand on the tarmac.

I also have a picture of the pax load congregated a few meters in front of the plane for about 10 minutes while the plane was being refuelled and no fire tender present. Unfortunately I cannot upload any more pics here.


User currently offlinemika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9573 times:

One thing that you can do is to boycott FR. I myself will continue to do so.

User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9525 times:

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Reply 13):
I also have a picture of the pax load congregated a few meters in front of the plane for about 10 minutes while the plane was being refuelled and no fire tender present.

So? At AMS for example the 747's are being refueled right next to pax in the terminal. At many airports the planes stop on the apron before the terminal. I hardly ever see a fire tender next to it, often a few 100 meters away.



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User currently onlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4361 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9376 times:

I love to walk over airports, smell the aircraft, and having 15mins to watch a 737 from 50m distance is a dream.

Yes it is legal and safe.


User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3522 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9327 times:

I actually wish this kind of thing happened in the US more often:



I remember once in the 1980's, flying a Hughes Airwest milk run up the west coast and stopping at 4 different airports on the way from San Francisco to Portland or Vancouver or something. At each stop, passengers were allowed to disembark for a "smoke break" - basically everybody just milled around the plane for a while at a remote stand until it was time to go again. That was a memorable experience - it was like riding a bus and getting off at each stop to stretch your legs.

Anyway, I don't see what the problem is with what Ryan Air is doing... at best it's kind of odd, but I don't see any safety or other issue. People have gotten so tight about things these days. Lots of people stand outside their car pumping their own gas, I don't see what's different about standing around a plane while actual professionals pump it full of fuel.



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User currently offlineloveofflying From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9217 times:

OK. I will never fly Ryanair and haven't yet. Sure, never-say-never. But I don't want to experience the fees, hassle, and no service. I simply fly LH or one of the other EU legacies. Prices are often very reasonable (especially coming from Canada) - 100 CAD each way?! What a bargain! Europeans see it differently. I would probably rather take the train (in 1 class) rather than fly FR. So to each his own. But you really get what you pay for.


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User currently offlinesmbukas From Lithuania, joined Feb 2009, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9216 times:

Ryanair policy is actually do not use bridges even it is provided for free. Walk on/walk offs is better also for faster turnarounds as pre-boarded passengers with free seating run to the aircraft and last passenger board in 5-7 minutes. That is not possible anyhow with a jetway.

And the thing is, that many high standarts airlines are coping Ryanair. In CPH SAS always do the same with their CRJ9. And they asking remote airports to do walk-on stands also. I know that SN, BT, OV are going forward with that also.


User currently offlinelmml 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9207 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 17):
Anyway, I don't see what the problem is with what Ryan Air is doing

Nothing is a problem for FR because he is so powerful and exerts so much pressure that airports and CAA's bend over backwards to accommodate him. The same cannot be said for most other airlines that pay, not get paid, to operate. Fine, it's good business. But it is also unfair and many a blind eye, in this case I would say blind EYES, are sanctioned.

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 16):
I love to walk over airports, smell the aircraft, and having 15mins to watch a 737 from 50m distance is a dream

Ditto.....and I am privileged to do it all the time. But the average passenger is only interested in getting from A to B.


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1301 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9196 times:

What a stupid and useless topic. It is MALEV's own fault that they went bust, they deserved it, no sympathy for them!

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
This is how it treats it's paying passengers - planes park at a remote stand to avoid paying the extra charge of the airbridge.

So? If you don't like that you can fly other carriers which are using jetways or you can stay at home.

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
The airport, being on its knees, converted one jetty into steps.

So? If they're doing that, that's their own choice, nobody is forcing them.

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
Rain or shine, passengers are forced to walk 300mtrs to the plane on the tarmac, usually reserved for aicraft movements.

So? Are your afraid that you will melt in the rain or something? Once again, if you don't like it, choose another carrier or stay at home.

Quoting lmml 14/32 (Thread starter):
Then they are made to wait for some 15 minutes in front of the plane, rain or shine, in the middle of the apron, few metres away from the plane as it is being re-fuelled, until the crew is ready to board.

So? What's the difference of sitting on a seat in the aircraft or standing right next to it? Nothing, and it will be refuelled anyway. This is happening at many airports worldwide and it's perfectly safe.



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User currently offlineflashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2896 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9077 times:
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Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 21):
So? Are your afraid that you will melt in the rain or something? Once again, if you don't like it, choose another carrier or stay at home.

I won't melt, but I sure wouldn't want to be the one sitting next to the guy who didn't have an umbrella or parka and got soaked after the wait outside the aircraft in the rain. Nor would I want my neighbor's wet umbrella getting my stuff all wet once we're inside.

I fail to see the advantage that this sort of arrangement offers. Especially the back-and-forth on the walk out to the plane. It seems like Ryanair is doing this for the sake of doing it, nothing more.


User currently offlinechrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1055 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8803 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 5):
I use it a lot, and it is really great! Pax love it as the boarding process is must faster and you can wait close to all the action instead of a hot airport building. More airlines use this btw.

Its also done on airports in Holland btw , like EIN, GRQ. Again more airlines do this. It makes the boarding process much nicer and faster for pax. No more waiting in long lines.

I dont know what your problem is with flying, but everyone agrees that the worst thing that can happen is a bus ride to your plane and wait packed like sardines till you can board.

No offence KL911, every post I see about Malev or BUD airport you are defending Ryanair, and that there is no hole left by the demise of Malev, well there is a huge hole left. As someone who had Malev tickets purchased as a connecting flight from FRA, I was left with the only direct option of LH, who were charging the 4 times the price I paid, explain to me as an International passenger arriving at an airport which is not served by Ryanair how they are "filling the gap" left by Malev?
I had the unfortunate choice to fly with AirBerlin instead, which is hardly convenient flying via TXL to BUD.
Nearly every major international airport I could fly into from Asia/Australia is NOT served by Ryanair, either the national airline of the country I land in has only one flight a day to BUD either a 6-7 hour wait, or leaves before my flight would arrive, or go on a 8-10 hour multi connection odyssey around Europe, which is the last thing I want to do after flying 20 hours before hand.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 5):
I use it a lot, and it is really great! Pax love it as the boarding process is must faster and you can wait close to all the action instead of a hot airport building. More airlines use this btw.

What hot airport building, I was there this summer in the peak heatwave, 38c and it wasn't hot anywhere inside the airport. I would rather be sitting inside air-conditioned comfort than standing outside. I suppose pax "love this" and they will love doing it in the middle of winter when it is -18c outside......



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8736 times:
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Quoting loveofflying (Reply 18):
But I don't want to experience the fees, hassle, and no service.

Fees? Fly with hand luggage and check you don't buy extras when you book. Of course if you doubt you have the mental capacity to navigate a very straightforward booking system without accidentally paying loads more than you think you are, for which you really would have to be quite dim, then fine - don't fly them. Funnily enough, contrary to popular belief, as long as you follow some very simple rules then it is genuinely the case that nobody from the airline will jump out on you at the last minute to mug you for hundreds of euros; or indeed any euros. Hassle? Haven't really experienced any myself. Not sure what 'hassle' you imagine there is. Service? Well each to their own of course, but what do you need or want on a sector of 1-2 hours, particularly at an absurdly low cost?

As to the thread title, I can't help but think that it is somewhat naive, borne from a lack of experience. The kind of setup described is hardlty unique to FR or BUD. Am struggling to understand why anyone would imagine it could be illegal or dangerous.



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25 BE77 : Does it mean I'm sarcastic if I admit liking this post? I'll add that many (maybe not all) of the people knew exactly what theywere getting and are h
26 vegetables2001 : Please change the title of the thread to "Whine, whine, whine......"
27 dynamo12 : What's funny about this is that Ryanair in the free market is setting passenger records. July 2012 was their highest passenger month in their history.
28 flyingturtle : Stupid question of the week. We all love walking any distance on the apron! At BSL, depending on where the U2 319 is standing, the passengers have to
29 Lono : Happens every day all over Alaska....
30 BE77 : Very nicely said!
31 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : And at many airports in Canada's north where temperatures of -40C (or colder) are common. And note the caption of this one: http://www.flickr.com/pho
32 N766UA : I dunno, I mean, yes, they chose no legroom, no recline, no food, no free perks, etc. etc., but I don't think anyone expects to be corralled on the h
33 krisyyz : Do you have any sympathy for the MA employees who woke up one morning and found out they are now unemployed, some who worked for MA for 30+ years? No
34 krisyyz : absolutely, but it is important to note that there are no other options for passenger boarding at those Canadian and Alaskan airports. While both jet
35 Cubsrule : Apologies if this is off topic, but is boarding during fueling not allowed in Europe? If so, that seems like a pointless rule - it happens all the ti
36 mayor : Exactly. That's why the fuel truck is grounded during fueling. Besides, jet fuel isn't nearly as volatile as gasoline.
37 Post contains images mandala499 : Well,you should read the NOTAMs... 1. Video was taken at 03AUG12... 2. This is covered by the NOTAMs... it seems that BUD airport is doing a lot of m
38 Dogbreath : Oh for crying out aloud. Harden up Princess. In answer to your question. Of course it's legal. If it wasn't, do you think that the Airport Authoritie
39 GCT64 : Boarding during fueling is allowed in Europe, happens all the time.
40 kl911 : Well, I dont know who you fly with from Asia-Australia but all three alliances have especially the Asian arrival banks very well covered: LHR- BA 3x
41 BasilFawlty : It speeds up the boarding process and it's saving them money. It is allowed, only requirement is two usable exits, which means a jetty or stairs at t
42 lmml 14/32 : True, but this is not boarding during re-fuelling. This is about pax congregating 10 meters in front of a plane that is being refuelled.
43 Cubsrule : To be fair, that's somewhat more restrictive than in most of the rest of the world. The States have no restrictions; in many countries in South Ameri
44 EK413 : Can't FR recoup the aerobridge costs in the airfare??? EK413
45 BasilFawlty : Do you know the basic principles of low cost carrier?
46 AA94 : Sure, they could. But that drives fares up, and people fly Ryanair because their fares are low. I'm not sure the cost of renting/utilising a jetway,
47 BMI727 : If they can charge X Euros as a fare, why would they want to eat up some of that in jetway fees rather than letting it be profit?
48 Mir : Passengers should not be waiting around on the ramp IMO. Walking to or from the airplane is fine, but the ramp can be a dangerous place, and time spe
49 Post contains links krisyyz : Here is a video of FR ops at BUD in May. You can see the passengers standing on the apron while the FR 738 pulls onto the stand. The group of pax in
50 EK413 : I am well aware of the low cost carrier principles... Considering Ryanair have replaced the national carrier MALEV and barely have any competition wh
51 FlyingAY : You do understand that people do make longer trips than just a weekend? You do understand that people ski, windsurf, play musical instruments, etc. Y
52 ju068 : Well they have only replaced Malev in theory. Malev had a much greater network, allowed connections via its alliance hubs and provided its passengers
53 Pe@rson : Clearly, that is very sensible decision. It isn't surprising FR has such fares at the moment: the Christmas period is obviously one with higher deman
54 EK413 : & if Ryanair wanna move in and replace MALEV there really isn't anything stopping them from doing so or did I miss something? EK413
55 Pe@rson : FR and W6 have analysed viable routes (and considered bilateral agreement requirements, e.g. for Russia) and launched or increased frequency/capacity
56 horstroad : something I don´t get is... the gate position is blocked due to stairs at the gangway. so basically this flight occupies this gate. but it also occup
57 krisyyz : Not really. I think FR only uses one gate at BUD T2A for pax processing, the pax then walk down the stairs to one of the 3 or 4 remote stands where t
58 BasilFawlty : It's no more dangeours then waiting for a train on a platform or waiting for a bus in a street on the pavement. $0,20 per passenger is a lot of money
59 alm1 : I like walking to remote stands. You do not have to run only to walk fast to beat other slower passengers and be able to chose any seat you like (and
60 catiii : Ryanair is one of about three dozen other airlines at Budapest. They aren't the only airline. If passengers care about any of the issues, they can go
61 EK413 : You obviously fail to understand the point I'm making and therefore I need to explain my point yet again... MALEV collapsed and sardine airlines "Rya
62 Pe@rson : From a galance at routes from BUD, most of those on which FR is the sole operator weren't previously served by MA, e.g.: ALC BLL BHX BLQ BRS FKB (4U
63 MD11Engineer : Actually I don´t like pasengers on the ramp, especially if they are accumulating in big groups. They don´t know the dangers on the ramp and are a ri
64 Dogbreath : Whaaaat!! So by your reckoning, if the 5 star restaurant down my street closes and McDonalds opens up on the same site, McDonalds must provide a 5 st
65 afterburner33 : Hello, long time lurker, first time poster. I flew to BUD from STN on FR on the weekend, and saw some of this in action. As our flight taxied in, ther
66 Post contains images BasilFawlty : MALEV is gone, they're history and they won't be coming back, please accept it. Why? Because they failed to restructure their business and lower thei
67 GT4EZY : I'm not sure if all airports actually explictly charge for airbridges. Some airlines tend to prefer steps as it makes disembarking/boarding faster.
68 signol : Quite possibly, the "FR gate" is in the Schengen area of the airport, and STN obviously is extra-Schengen, so requires passengers to go through passp
69 EK413 : Love the comments... Welcome to A.Net "forum"... I'm impressed with support for low cost carriers... I know I won't be jumping on FR anytime soon as
70 flyingturtle : We aren't in favor of FR or U2. We are in favor of a choice. And as FR and U2 are quite popular... I've flown six times with U2 exactly because I did
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