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When Did Lufthansa Start SYD?  
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 668 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8746 times:

Does anybody have a date for when Lufthansa started services to Sydney?

And was it originally with a 707-430 or 707-330B aircraft?

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9736 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

April 3rd, 1965
FRA-ATH-KHI-BKK-SIN-Darwin-SYD
B707

Must have been a 2 week trip for the crew.



Es saugt und blaest der Heinzelmann wo Mutti sonst nur blasen kann. Frueher war mehr Lametta.
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
April 3rd, 1965
FRA-ATH-KHI-BKK-SIN-Darwin-SYD
B707



4th and 5th lines in this book excerpt:
http://books.google.ch/books?id=CkrY...=lufthansa%20sydney%201965&f=false

And looks like LH published a 15 page book(let) on the 25th anniversary of Australia service.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/34709419?selectedversion=NBD8891694

In the LH timetable dated July 1966, a little over a year after service started in April 1965, the routing had changed to FRA-ATH-KHI-DEL-BKK-SIN-SYD.

Eastbound LH690, 707 once a week (Tuesday ex FRA). Elapsed time FRA-SYD 28 hrs. 20 min.
http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/lh/lh66/lh66-06.jpg

Westbound LH691 (Thursday ex SYD, same routing as eastbound). Elapsed time SYD-FRA 28 hrs.
http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/lh/lh66/lh66-07.jpg

No 5th freedom rights then between BKK and SIN.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9736 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

my quick reference source is "As time flies" The history of LH, published at zthe 50th anniversary of the new LH in 2005.

Interesting point, my first trip to the Far East in 1980 was on LH FRA-ATH-KHI-BKK, the exact routing of the SYD service ( I continued a couple of days later to SIN) , that servoice was flown by D10.



Es saugt und blaest der Heinzelmann wo Mutti sonst nur blasen kann. Frueher war mehr Lametta.
User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6489 times:

So were the Flight Engineers on these routes also A&Ps? I can imagine that a mechanical along the way would be a challenge. Not that the stations on route would not have mechanics, but having your own to oversee the work and sign off on the paperwork etc. I can imagine would be a big help. Did they do anything special on these long international "milk runs' to handle MX problems?


...are we there yet?
User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5807 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6197 times:

Quoting flylku (Reply 4):
So were the Flight Engineers on these routes also A&Ps?

Not sure specifically about LH but most flight engineers on the Kangaroo Route were from countries where ALL flight engineers were the local equivalent of A&Ps. Those from Australia, UK, Netherlands, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and Singapore certainly were, not sure about France, Germany & Japan.

Gemuser



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User currently offlinezkeoj From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
Must have been a 2 week trip for the crew.

I can imagine even (significantly) longer. I flew LH FRA-BKK-SYD in 1990, and the F/A then told me it was a 2-week trip for them. The two legs above, then the add-on to MEL on a separate day, then they dead-headed to DPS, and flew back from there (not sure if that was standard though, or if they flew back MEL-SYD-BKK-FRA as standard)...

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 894 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

For most of the time (at least when the 747 flew it), it was a 21-day trip for the crew. Any older flight attendant with LH will happily tell you about it....


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