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When Did Lufthansa Start SYD?  
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 679 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 9760 times:

Does anybody have a date for when Lufthansa started services to Sydney?

And was it originally with a 707-430 or 707-330B aircraft?

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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10960 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 9731 times:

April 3rd, 1965

Must have been a 2 week trip for the crew.

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29505 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 8901 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
April 3rd, 1965

4th and 5th lines in this book excerpt:

And looks like LH published a 15 page book(let) on the 25th anniversary of Australia service.

In the LH timetable dated July 1966, a little over a year after service started in April 1965, the routing had changed to FRA-ATH-KHI-DEL-BKK-SIN-SYD.

Eastbound LH690, 707 once a week (Tuesday ex FRA). Elapsed time FRA-SYD 28 hrs. 20 min.

Westbound LH691 (Thursday ex SYD, same routing as eastbound). Elapsed time SYD-FRA 28 hrs.

No 5th freedom rights then between BKK and SIN.

User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10960 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 8706 times:

my quick reference source is "As time flies" The history of LH, published at zthe 50th anniversary of the new LH in 2005.

Interesting point, my first trip to the Far East in 1980 was on LH FRA-ATH-KHI-BKK, the exact routing of the SYD service ( I continued a couple of days later to SIN) , that servoice was flown by D10.

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User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 7504 times:

So were the Flight Engineers on these routes also A&Ps? I can imagine that a mechanical along the way would be a challenge. Not that the stations on route would not have mechanics, but having your own to oversee the work and sign off on the paperwork etc. I can imagine would be a big help. Did they do anything special on these long international "milk runs' to handle MX problems?

...are we there yet?
User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 6289 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 7212 times:

Quoting flylku (Reply 4):
So were the Flight Engineers on these routes also A&Ps?

Not sure specifically about LH but most flight engineers on the Kangaroo Route were from countries where ALL flight engineers were the local equivalent of A&Ps. Those from Australia, UK, Netherlands, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and Singapore certainly were, not sure about France, Germany & Japan.


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User currently offlinezkeoj From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 6649 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
Must have been a 2 week trip for the crew.

I can imagine even (significantly) longer. I flew LH FRA-BKK-SYD in 1990, and the F/A then told me it was a 2-week trip for them. The two legs above, then the add-on to MEL on a separate day, then they dead-headed to DPS, and flew back from there (not sure if that was standard though, or if they flew back MEL-SYD-BKK-FRA as standard)...


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 953 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months ago) and read 3917 times:

For most of the time (at least when the 747 flew it), it was a 21-day trip for the crew. Any older flight attendant with LH will happily tell you about it....

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