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Current DL 744 Routes?  
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11487 times:

What are the current routes operated by DL 744s?

I'm also interested to know what PMDL FAs think of the 747!

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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11309 times:

This week, the following routes are flown with 744s:
ATL-NRT
DTW-NGO-MNL
DTW-NRT
HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT
JFK-NRT-MNL
JFK-TLV
NRT-TPE



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User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1184 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11047 times:

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):

I'm also interested to know what PMDL FAs think of the 747!

Big improvement with the recent mods. Still no galley refrigeration though. Reliability is questionable. Can only speak for NRT-JFK-TLV routes.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11021 times:

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1):
NRT-TPE

Where does this flight originate from?



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10732 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Where does this flight originate from?

Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.



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User currently offlineB767300ER From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10665 times:
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Fly regular as TLV / LLBG), Israel">LOD F268/F269 JFK-TLV-JFK always loved the 747 and now that we fly with the up graded 747 its even
a beter air craft to work on. Its amazing but every trip I've been on we have had over a 90% pax load, with Business-eleite being at 100%.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10429 times:
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Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Where does this flight originate from?

Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.

Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT. NRT-TPE has been using the 74S (refurbished 744 with flat beds) whereas DTW-NRT still uses the 'old' 744. The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10262 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT.

Good point. The question I was responding to wasn't clear on which piece of information was being asked, which is why I spelled out how it could be obtained on one's own if that was what was being asked.



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10183 times:

We filter out flights with equipment changes in our database at ch-aviation, so I assume that is why I did not even see the DTW-NRT-TPE routing when running the report. Delta has it filed with an equipment change in their schedule data as well even though it is the same aircraft type (744) on both legs with the same flight number.


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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9999 times:

Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.


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User currently offlineViper911 From Russia, joined Oct 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9955 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 9):

Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.

That is correct, today JFK-TLV is the only transatlantic route to use a 744.

Viper911.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9804 times:

Quoting Viper911 (Reply 10):
That is correct, today JFK-TLV is the only transatlantic route to use a 744.

Viper911.
Quoting B747forever (Reply 9):
Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.

True, in the past NW used to send them on certain routes, but just like DL, not every season, they came and wen't so to say. They still use them on a rare base as a substitute, but im sure we will see them back in the future.


User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8112 times:

So no 747s out of MSP or LAX anymore?

User currently offlineKDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7938 times:

Looks like MSP-NRT and LAX-NRT are with 777s (alternating between 777 and 777LR) and LAX-HND is with a Airbus A330-200.


NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlinefilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6418 times:

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 12):

LAX was on and off earlier this year. Lot of talk about two other citys this winter but I'll believe it when I see it Plus don't forget the gov stuff that will start again this fall.


User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

I love the plane...haven't been on it for a while, but it works well and the 74S is a dream to work!


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3261 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.

Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from.



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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3555 times:
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Quoting RWA380 (Reply 16):
Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from

One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week.

A daily MNL-NRT-JFK-TLV-JFK-NRT-MNL rotation requires 4 frames.
A daily TPE-NRT-ATL-NRT-TPE requires 3 frames (the NRT-ATL can't turn back to NRT until the next day, and remains overnight in ATL)

The daily DTW-NRT requires at least two if not three aircraft (I believe it's rotated with the DTW-NGO-MNL flight).

Both HNL-NRT and HNL-KIX are currently also using the 74S, and each one requires one aircraft only.

[Edited 2012-08-07 04:16:29]

User currently offlineSRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1):
This week, the following routes are flown with 744s:
ATL-NRT
DTW-NGO-MNL
DTW-NRT
HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT
JFK-NRT-MNL
JFK-TLV
NRT-TPE

So where is the DL 744 maintenance base? NRT?


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

744 overnight maintenance is done in DTW & MNL.

User currently offlinezmp0psa From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

Does anyone have an updated list specifying which routes the 74S is currently operating on? I found a few older threads, but I believe a few more upgraded models have been added since then.

ZMP


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3261 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 17):
One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week

That does make total sense, that is not allowing any cushion for MX or WX delays, but yeah you are correct, I wasn't thinking that way. Does that aircraft then rotate out in Tokyo to DTW or ATL?



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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

Anyone know if DL is likely to put the 744 back on ATL-HNL again? I'm looking to go back to Hawaii in 2013 and would love to fly DL on the upper deck of the 744 if possible. 

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