cokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9755 times:
Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
I'm also interested to know what PMDL FAs think of the 747!
Big improvement with the recent mods. Still no galley refrigeration though. Reliability is questionable. Can only speak for NRT-JFK-TLV routes.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18827 posts, RR: 64 Reply 4, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9440 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3): Where does this flight originate from?
Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.
B767300ER From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 184 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9373 times:
Fly regular as TLV / LLBG), Israel">LOD F268/F269 JFK-TLV-JFK always loved the 747 and now that we fly with the up graded 747 its even
a beter air craft to work on. Its amazing but every trip I've been on we have had over a 90% pax load, with Business-eleite being at 100%.
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9137 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4): Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Where does this flight originate from?
Easy peasy to look up the flight in the timetable, then google the airline/flight number or enter it into flightaware for the full routing. DL275 flies DTW-NRT-TPE.
Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT. NRT-TPE has been using the 74S (refurbished 744 with flat beds) whereas DTW-NRT still uses the 'old' 744. The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18827 posts, RR: 64 Reply 7, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8970 times:
Quoting panamair (Reply 6): Even though they share the same flight number, the aircraft operating NRT-TPE is usually not the same aircraft as the one doing DTW-NRT.
Good point. The question I was responding to wasn't clear on which piece of information was being asked, which is why I spelled out how it could be obtained on one's own if that was what was being asked.
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2266 posts, RR: 31 Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8891 times:
We filter out flights with equipment changes in our database at ch-aviation, so I assume that is why I did not even see the DTW-NRT-TPE routing when running the report. Delta has it filed with an equipment change in their schedule data as well even though it is the same aircraft type (744) on both legs with the same flight number.
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B747forever From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8707 times:
Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8512 times:
Quoting Viper911 (Reply 10): That is correct, today JFK-TLV is the only transatlantic route to use a 744.
Viper911.
Quoting B747forever (Reply 9): Last year I flew DTW-AMS on the 744. Seems that DL is not using the 747 to Europe anymore.
True, in the past NW used to send them on certain routes, but just like DL, not every season, they came and wen't so to say. They still use them on a rare base as a substitute, but im sure we will see them back in the future.
LAX was on and off earlier this year. Lot of talk about two other citys this winter but I'll believe it when I see it Plus don't forget the gov stuff that will start again this fall.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2159 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2345 times:
Quoting panamair (Reply 6): The NRT-TPE 74S comes either from JFK, ATL, or HNL.
Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from.
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 17, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 16): Does DL operate an upgraded 74S on the HNL-NRT run? I would thing that a non-upgraded 744 would be more in line with the economics of that route for any carrier. I'd think their DTW-NRT flight would be more in need of the 74S than HNL. I bet your right with either ATL or JFK is where the aircraft to run TPE comes from
One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week.
A daily MNL-NRT-JFK-TLV-JFK-NRT-MNL rotation requires 4 frames.
A daily TPE-NRT-ATL-NRT-TPE requires 3 frames (the NRT-ATL can't turn back to NRT until the next day, and remains overnight in ATL)
The daily DTW-NRT requires at least two if not three aircraft (I believe it's rotated with the DTW-NGO-MNL flight).
Both HNL-NRT and HNL-KIX are currently also using the 74S, and each one requires one aircraft only.
SRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 252 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1): This week, the following routes are flown with 744s:
ATL-NRT
DTW-NGO-MNL
DTW-NRT
HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT
JFK-NRT-MNL
JFK-TLV
NRT-TPE
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 19, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
zmp0psa From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
Does anyone have an updated list specifying which routes the 74S is currently operating on? I found a few older threads, but I believe a few more upgraded models have been added since then.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2159 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1651 times:
Quoting panamair (Reply 17): One of the reasons they use the 74S on HNL-NRT is because the schedule is much more efficient than DTW (or another longer transpac). A NRT-HNL daily roundtrip can pretty much be done with just one plane (the distance and schedules allow it to be handled like just another interport flight - NRT-TPE or NRT-MNL). As more 74S are completed, we are now starting to see DTW-NRT get the 74S on certain days of the week
That does make total sense, that is not allowing any cushion for MX or WX delays, but yeah you are correct, I wasn't thinking that way. Does that aircraft then rotate out in Tokyo to DTW or ATL?
Next Flights: AS PDX-SEA-KOA on DH4/738 in F, HA KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
N202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1549 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
Anyone know if DL is likely to put the 744 back on ATL-HNL again? I'm looking to go back to Hawaii in 2013 and would love to fly DL on the upper deck of the 744 if possible.
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