dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 716 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7992 times:
Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Thread starter): AZA has scheduled a press conference tomorrow (Monday, 8/6) to announce that a third airline will serve the airport. F9 will announce six new destinations tomorrow, but they currently serve PHX.
I guess this is perfect timing because the new terminal remodel is almost complete.
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1): Who does the majority of ground handling services at AZA? Allegiant people or is it all outsourced?
All airlines are outsourced at AZA, Allegiant: Worldwide Flight Services, Sprit: Servisair
Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 5): My money's on either SY or F9 moving from PHX to AZA to keep their costs lower
Both airlines fly out of PHX. I do not think F9 will dump their operations and interlining with US, UA and ZK to move to AZA. Also SY resumes PHX service next month, if they were going to move their operation to AZA they would have said something back in may when stopped flying into PHX for the summer. Granted costs are lower at AZA but I do not think F9 or SY are moving out there.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7985 times:
Quoting point2point (Reply 2): Per the FAA, the average DEN-PHX yearly 2011 PDEW is about 2800.
Hold on a minute. I don't know what FAA numbers you quoted but according to the DOT Traffic Reports, the TOTAL daily O&D pax in the market averaged a bit over 2,700 during 2011, making the PDEW ~1370. Still a healthy amount of traffic but a bit more realistic.
Interesting thought. I've always assumed CP Air would be heading for Sky Harbor and I can't now remember if that was ever confirmed by anyone with the carrier. (And there have not been any other announcements of specific start-up plans yet so this would seem unlikely...)
stlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 27 Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7578 times:
Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 15): I couldn't imagine it would really be worth it to any low cost carrier finding it worth it to move from PHX to AZA. Maybe a legacy would just try to get in there maybe, but unlikely.
Frontier's trying to copy Allegiant and Spirit. Don't forget.
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SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 20, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7468 times:
Quoting point2point (Reply 13): Okay, I did this on my spreadsheet now (instead of off the top of my head) and the average is 2736. So sorry, it's closer to 2700 rather than 2800, but as you say...
No, you miss my point, point. (Sorry, I couldn't resist... )
The published '2,700' figure is TOTAL traffic in the market -- in both directions -- and you are confusing that figure with PDEW which is Pax per Day Each Way! (The 2700 number divided in half.) If you are quoting statistics, make sure you label them right; there's a BIG difference between (an incorrect) PDEW of 2700 and a correct PDEW of 1350. A PDEW of 1350 would fill about 10 roundtrip WN flights while a PDEW of 2700 would fill 20! Big difference, especially in light of the point you're trying to make in this thread.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8774 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7377 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 18): I know it is unlikely, but I would like to see DL service from AZA to ATL. I live in Gilbert, and AZA would be a more convienient option than PHX.
Just can't see this one happening for a long time, if ever. Maybe if the economy rebounds, then a possible A319 could work, but it might just not be enough - PHX is simply too convenient to the major business districts in Arizona.
I wouldn't be shocked to see F9 launch service tomorrow though - they've got both PVU and SLC going. Wouldn't be shocked if they did a daily E-Jet into AZA.
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 4): I'm guessing maybe UA with a couple of daily regionals to IAH or American Eagle with a few daily ERJs to LAX or DFW.
If UA launched AZA, it'd likely be a CRJ to DEN or possibly SFO...IAH at 1000 miles on an RJ just wouldn't make sense.
yvphx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 228 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7099 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 21): If UA launched AZA, it'd likely be a CRJ to DEN or possibly SFO...IAH at 1000 miles on an RJ just wouldn't make sense.
I've flown PHX-DSM route many times on a CR2 and CR9. Its 1149 miles (GCM scale). Its not the best flight to take, but those CR2's get cramped on a 2.5 hour flight.
My guess as to the new tennent will be F9 also. Since they only have interline agreements with other carriers, to move to a cheaper airport to operate out of, might make great sence. To have another viable option out at IWA/AZA for us east valley people would be great. I wonder how much ticket prices might decrease.