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Lufthansa Retrofitted A-340's With New First  
User currently offlineMAUZAO From Brazil, joined Aug 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13221 times:

According to the following link - http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa - very few A-340 were retroffited with LH new First class product. It seems that after several months, the number of the reffited aircraft are the same. Questions - how long it takes to replace a first class cabin (seats, pannels, walls, carpets, etc) on a single aircraft? Anyone knows if LH plans to refurbinish their complete fleet with the new F product? Also, is it possible to know if the refurbishined arcraft are assigned to a particular market or based in FRA or MUC? Any news about the rumor of some of the 340-600 machines possibly being transferred to SWISS? Thank you, obrigado!

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User currently offlineLHLX From Israel, joined Nov 2011, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12547 times:
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Oi,
first of all - seja bemvindo on this site  

All the retrofitted Airbus 340s (-300 and -600) are MUC based. FRA gets the new F-seats only in about 10 744s and of course in the 380s and in the lone (soon 2) 748.
By the looks of it (flightradar24.com) the MUC-GRU flights mostly get served by the 343s that already have the new F seats installed.
No idea how the long it takes to refurbish the planes with the new F class.
Seems as if LH is gonna eliminate F on the majority of 340s (FRA based planes) from 2013...

Hope this helps.  


User currently offlineGVAJFKflyer From Switzerland, joined Aug 2009, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11093 times:

The following site features interesting information about the topic of new F retrofit:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...w-first-class-retrofit-thread.html


User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 766 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10967 times:
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Quoting MAUZAO (Thread starter):
It seems that after several months, the number of the reffited aircraft are the same

LH has retrofitted 7 (out of 14) MUC based 340-600s and 5 MUC based (out of 10) 340-300s. The rumor is that retrofitting will start again when the winter season starts in October/November.

4 out the 330s based at MUC also have new First, and three of them also have the new business product.

None of the 340s or 330s at FRA or the 340s at DUS have new First.

FRA has 11 747-400 with the excellent seat and bed First class, and new normal First on the 747-800 and the 380s. 16 747-400s will have new First at the end of the 2012.

Rumors say, that the 340s, 330s and 747-400s that will not get new First (or be retired), will be retrofitted into two class aircraft.



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User currently offlineFerroviarius From Norway, joined Mar 2007, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9437 times:

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 3):
Rumors say, that the 340s, 330s and 747-400s that will not get new First (or be retired), will be retrofitted into two class aircraft.

I recall having read in the FAZ months ago that Lufthansa then had planne to remove F but at the same time introduce on the resp. aircraft a new Premium Eco cabin with more comfortable seating than the usual Eco seating. So, there will still a kind of three class configuration. I do not recall whether there is going to be any four class airplanes.

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Ferroviarius


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9116 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9397 times:
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Quoting Ferroviarius (Reply 4):

There are plans to remove F class from the old 340s and 744s, but it has not been confirmed yet.
Same with the Premium Economy class. It looks like passengers want to have that option, but here as well: not confirmed and still to be decided.
As well as the configuration, it is not decided if 3 class, 2 class or even 4 class configuration. There are still people out there calculating  

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User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6396 times:

From what I heard, all A340-600 will get the new first and are ultimately to be stationed in MUC. The A340-300's will be transferred to FRA with some of them having the new F (I'm not sure if they will keep them or all will be refitted into C and Y only). All A330-300 to be stationed in MUC will also have the new F and I would think the same goes for A330's stationed in FRA.
I don't have any official sources but from what I understand the plan is for MUC to only have A340-600's (all in the fleet) and A330-300's while FRA will have the full range except for A340-600's.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

What about the new business and refitt of the current fleet?

User currently offlineMAUZAO From Brazil, joined Aug 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5102 times:

Thank you all for the information. Based on that, it seems all the A-340-300s operating from MUC to GRU were retrofitted with the new First. Nice to know LH is rotating the aircraft with new configuration to GRU. Hope they complete to install their new First on the other 340 birds soon. And maybe, a new Business with fully-flat seats, to alligned with LX product.

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

Quoting bavair (Reply 6):
From what I heard, all A340-600 will get the new first and are ultimately to be stationed in MUC. The A340-300's will be transferred to FRA with some of them having the new F (I'm not sure if they will keep them or all will be refitted into C and Y only). All A330-300 to be stationed in MUC will also have the new F and I would think the same goes for A330's stationed in FRA.

Why the focus on MUC? Wouldn't you want your new product in your larger, more competitive hub?



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4974 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 7):
What about the new business and refitt of the current fleet?

I was also about to ask that. IMO the most urgent task is the c-class. Certainly now that LX and SN propose a much better and improved seat within the group.

I guess they know better than us  



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User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 9):
Why the focus on MUC? Wouldn't you want your new product in your larger, more competitive hub?

From what I've heard, MUC has a larger premium demand than FRA, especially in the number of HON's travelling from MUC. That's why all MUC based planes will retain the F class while only about half of the FRA planes will have it.


User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 747 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

Quoting bavair (Reply 11):
That's why all MUC based planes will retain the F class while only about half of the FRA planes will have it.

LH's 744 serving EZE from FRA have the new F class: For such a long flight - took it a few days ago - extremely tempting for an upgrade by using miles - or SEN vouchers.

I have never been fond of F class' extra costs, but if the F-class is so much better - as I experienced - it certainly is worth the miles-payment.

LH should refrain from stepping away from F class for flights over +9 hours in my opinion - for flights less than 9 hours, you can´t even use the luxurious extra bed LH offers now on the EZE run.

The new LH C class´criteria I read in many places is so low, that I am probably going to fly specifically with LH "old C", or other *alliance carriers. Thus, again back to F class, if it is so good, payment is worth for good....


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