DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5303 posts, RR: 47 Reply 1, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6768 times:
Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter): 764s seem to be maximizing utilization, 763ERs...not so much
Honestly, I'm not sure it would make sense for DL to fully utilize the 763s... the economy is down now. They were maxing them out somewhat recently IIRC but drew back since Europe is in the dumps
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6761 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 1):
Honestly, I'm not sure it would make sense for DL to fully utilize the 763s... the economy is down now. They were maxing them out somewhat recently IIRC but drew back since Europe is in the dumps
Not to mention that with reduced flying this winter, there is a great opportunity to get the rest of the non-lie flat fleet up to that configuration. With the 747s finishing up this fall, that could leave only the A330s to have non-lie flats in Summer 2013.
This shows the benefits of having flexibility in capacity and also the ratio of J/Y aircraft.
The 77E on DTW-AMS I think partially due to aircraft routings. If you look at the timing of the arrivals of the flights from ICN and PVG, its matchs well with sending the same aircraft out on the 10pm DTW-AMS flight.
The A333 on DTW-CDG is new, as DL is now flying a second flight, in addition to the AF A340 on DTW-CDG. Initially this was to be summer seasonal, but with the reductions in secondary TATL flying over the winter, DL is keeping some of the additional capacity in CDG for the winter. AF operates 5x weekly DTW-CDG on an A340 and DL will operate 5x weekly on DTW-CDG with an A333 (Wed, Thur, & Sun are the only days that both the AF & DL flights operate)
Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter): 332s are completely out of the Pacific
772s are completely out of ATL, NRT
77Ls are completely out of DTW
764s seem to be maximizing utilization, 763ERs...not so much
DL doesn't need the 77L in DTW, since DTW-HKG is ending
LAX-HND is still being flown with and A332, the only 332 across the Pacific
764 utilization is alway high
763 utilization will drop since mods will accelerate through the winter months.
UAL operates EWR-HKG with a 77E with a distance about 200 miles longer than DTW-HKG. Granted it is sometimes weight restricted but 200 less miles would mean at least 3,000 less pounds of fuel.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5969 times:
It surprises me that DL has about 4 transpacific 767 routes and have moved the A332 s which have more range to shorter routes. I guess the 767 works on 12 hour routes for them. I guess it is all about capacity management.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6871 posts, RR: 29 Reply 7, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5497 times:
Quoting FlyAA757 (Reply 6): Anyone know how the LAX-HND aircraft will be routed for mx?
It will operate an ATL-LAX segment to get routed back to the rest of the network.
rwsea From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3014 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5410 times:
Quoting FlyAA757 (Thread starter):
764s seem to be maximizing utilization, 763ERs...not so much
Hopefully to bring the 763s into the 21st century...
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 3): 763 utilization will drop since mods will accelerate through the winter months.
Great news! Needed to happen a long time ago. Unfortunately for me, PDX-AMS is downgraded and downgauged back to a 763 this winter (in the past it's been an A332).
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5328 times:
Quoting OOer (Reply 4): Is a 77L required on DTW-HKG?
The 77E does operate DTW-HKG from time to time...
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): there is a great opportunity to get the rest of the non-lie flat fleet up to that configuration.
IIRC, the timeline for the 767 mods is still end of 2013 completion, so they better have a whole chunk of the fleet out for the mods this fall and winter...they still have 50 planes to do!
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 5): It surprises me that DL has about 4 transpacific 767 routes
They have more if you include the HNL-Japan flights (NRT, NGO, FUK)
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5201 times:
I was uunder the impression that DL was ending JFK-CDG, now it's being upgraded? Or is this jsut until the 763 mods are done. Also, wasn't JFK-LHR supposed to get 1x 763?
seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4277 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5135 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 5): It surprises me that DL has about 4 transpacific 767 routes and have moved the A332 s which have more range to shorter routes.
None of the routes flown by 763s are really pushing the 763's limits, so the extra range of the 332 isn't really a factor, and the airline can decide the best aircraft for the route based on capacity and operational factors.
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odysseus9001 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 119 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1808 times:
I fly DL on that route a lot. For most of the past few years, they used a 767-400ER. Demand is high during northern winter/southern summer for Christmas and summer vacation down there. They actually ran a 777 on that route for several months ~Nov-Feb 2009/2010.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6871 posts, RR: 29 Reply 16, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 964 times:
Quoting FlyAA757 (Reply 13): Do you see this scheduled? I can only find 757s, 763As and the lone 77L on ATL-LAX. It would seem they would need at least a weekly ATL rotation...
Actually, I was wrong....
They are rotating the A332 for LAX-HND in via DTW-LAX.
The 8:35am DTW-LAX flight will operate with an A332 on Mon, Tue, Fri instead of a 763A
The 11:20pm LAX-DTW redeye flight will operate with an A332 on Mon, Thu, and Sun, instead of a 763A
Quoting blueman87 (Reply 15): what about DL SYD route thats a 77L is it
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