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Rumor: Ground Handler Regional Elite Closing?  
User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1903 posts, RR: 20
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13888 times:

Several sources have rumored today that Delta's wholly owned ground handler Regional Elite Airline Services (the spin off of Comair and Mesaba's ACS departments) will be either closing down or merging with Delta Global Services. I've been saying for years that I think it would be smart to merge Delta's two wholly owned ground handlers into one operation. Anyone else heard these rumors?

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User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13801 times:

wondering here myself .... EYW?

User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13719 times:

Very interesting. It does make sense though to have the outsourcing companies under one roof. It would be a big benefactor for DGS and DL in the long run because both companies seem to be doing well. But have not heard anything on the ground handling magazine sites.

Side note there is a write up on DGS.

http://www.rampequipmentnews.com/emag1/indexPop.htm



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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1903 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13681 times:

DGS is already doing some back office work for Regional Elite and I think both companies could bring experience and skill to the table to make a better combined company. I just hope they take the best of both companies like pay, flight benefits, etc, etc. I realize all of the above are marginal in respect to mainline but DGS still has worse flight benefits than Regional, for example.

If Regional were to just close up shop and not merge or get bought by anyone, who would handle the 50+ stations they do for Delta, United, USAirways, etc? Interestingly enough, I just went to their website and noticed it is only one page now. Related or not? I'm not sure...


User currently offlineKatwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13629 times:

just got the letter from our VP. REAS will be disolved by end of year.


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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13611 times:

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 3):
I think both companies could bring experience and skill to the table to make a better combined company.

Both are good at what they do so hopefully it could only get better. DGS is unique, it seems that they stick to domestic and regional contracts, they do not go after the international contracts like other handlers.

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 3):
I just hope they take the best of both companies like pay, flight benefits, etc, etc.

What is pay at REAS like? DGS pay is the same as Servisair and WFS...

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 3):
DGS still has worse flight benefits than Regional, for example.

Does DGS only get DL benefits? I know DGS employees have a standby code of S3C, while active DL employees have S3.

[Edited 2012-08-07 12:53:03]

Quote:
just got the letter from our VP. REAS will be disolved by end of year.

Sorry to hear that, any word of coming together with DGS or just shutting up shop?


[Edited 2012-08-07 12:54:18]


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User currently offlineKatwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13548 times:

More info to come but DGS is supposedly going to offer everyone a jobs but we will see I guess.


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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3381 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13547 times:

Just to add another *rumored* twist to all of this, there's been talk of M/L taking over the work handled by REAS in MSP & DTW for quite awhile now...


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12217 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13460 times:
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Quoting NWAESC (Reply 7):
Just to add another *rumored* twist to all of this, there's been talk of M/L taking over the work handled by REAS in MSP & DTW for quite awhile now...

That would not be a bad thing. Especially now that the union is out, there is nothing stopping them from doing that.



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User currently offlineHermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 509 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13458 times:

How will this affect the required amount of employees that must be Minnesota based? I thought that Regional had their headquarters there out in building C, if they are shutting down is DGS moving shop to MSP?


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3722 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13373 times:

Interesting. REAS handles ground for UA and DL here at FWA; before the DL/NW merger, OH handled UA and DL (they took over UA from OO) while 9E/PinnPro handled NW. (Eagle handles their own planes plus G4 flights that were previously handled by LaBov & Beyond Business Aviation, a private-jet arm of a prominent Fort Wayne ad agency).

I've thought of some possible scenarios for FWA. PinnPro is being shut down too, so that's not an option anymore:
-DL and UA both transition to DGS
-DL transitions to DGS while UA rebids and returns to OO
-DL and UA both rebid and both become OO ground handled
-DL transitions to DGS and UA leaves FWA entirely (not likely with the high LFs at FWA across the board, but one never knows)

[Edited 2012-08-07 13:32:42]


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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1903 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13328 times:

So it sounds like Regional is just going away by the end of the year and all of their cities are up for bid. It has been mentioned that DGS has already been awarded a large number of these cities.

It has also been said that DGS will be offering Regional employees jobs in the same locations but I wonder what kind of pay and seniority considerations will be given, if any? I could see DGS offering everyone jobs at $9 an hour (starting wage in many cities) and day one seniority and saying "take it or leave it." Does anyone think they'll give special accommodations to attract the employees that already know the city's operation?

Lastly, and the thought on my mind the most, does DGS presently do any passenger or above wing handling for Delta? I know they do ramp all over the nation for many airlines but what about gate or ticket counter handling for Delta? I would hope my former Regional Elite station of Omaha would become DGS ramp and mainline above wing. It seems like a city big enough to justify mainline above wing handling. I know my former coworkers would much rather start over on seniority and wages to work for mainline than to work for DGS.

[Edited 2012-08-07 13:43:22]

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12217 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13312 times:
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Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 11):
I know my former coworkers would much rather start over on seniority and wages to work for mainline than to work for DGS.

I think most people in it for the travel benefits would. As far as "career employees", I could see them leaving the industry altogether rather than start fresh.

That being said... I think DL should just do mainline above/below wing everywhere. Keep it inhouse, so when the station doesn't meet operational goals, they can only blame themselves.



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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1903 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13298 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 12):

That being said... I think DL should just do mainline above/below wing everywhere. Keep it inhouse, so when the station doesn't meet operational goals, they can only blame themselves.

That'd be wonderful for everyone but Delta! Even Southwest who has historically lived by this business plan is looking to outsource now! I agree with you Kai but I think we're living in a dream world!


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13168 times:

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 7):
Just to add another *rumored* twist to all of this, there's been talk of M/L taking over the work handled by REAS in MSP & DTW for quite awhile now...

They're going to keep that card in their back pocket a little longer; until times get hard.

[Edited 2012-08-07 14:16:18]


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12993 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 5):
Does DGS only get DL benefits? I know DGS employees have a standby code of S3C, while active DL employees have S3.

Yeah, but you could ID90 if you knew what you were doing. Technically, though, DGS was S3C on Delta only, though I never got bumped for being 3C.



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3381 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12944 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 8):
That would not be a bad thing. Especially now that the union is out, there is nothing stopping them from doing that.

There was nothing stopping it before.

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 11):
So it sounds like Regional is just going away by the end of the year and all of their cities are up for bid. It has been mentioned that DGS has already been awarded a large number of these cities.

Correct.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 12):
I think DL should just do mainline above/below wing everywhere.

We should b so lucky!

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 14):
They're going to keep that card in their back pocket a little longer; until times get hard.

You & I have discussed this before. I still think your theory has merit.



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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1903 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12914 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 15):

Yeah, but you could ID90 if you knew what you were doing. Technically, though, DGS was S3C on Delta only, though I never got bumped for being 3C.

Aren't DGS employees S4 on everyone but mainline? I remember working ASA and Skywest flights with DGS employees nonreving and noticed they were S4.


User currently offlinekmot From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12865 times:

It is understood that in cities where DGS has won the DL contract, REAS emps will be offered jobs and will be able to keep their seniority dates. However, all jobs will be at a new hire rate of pay.

User currently offlineflycrj24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12825 times:

DATE: August 7, 2012
TO: Regional Elite People
FROM: Don Stephens, Senior Vice President
RE: RFP Results and Regional Elite Transition
Throughout the airline industry – and in many cases the global economy – organizations large and small continue to look for ways to stay competitive. For us, this means providing the safest, highest quality service to mainline and regional customers, while driving toward greater efficiency and value. Delta’s recent RFP for ground handling services across more than 100 regional stations is one of many examples of this trend.
Our team has worked hard to run a strong operation for our customers. However, our cost structure kept us from effectively competing with other aviation service providers in this RFP. Unfortunately, we were not awarded the work in the vast majority of these locations, which will mean higher overhead costs spread across a smaller number of stations.
With very limited opportunities to maintain or grow our business, we will not be a viable company moving forward. As a result, we have made the decision to transition all of our remaining work to other aviation service providers by the end of the year. Having said that, we believe this transition will result in jobs being available at the same locations with the new providers for the vast majority of our people.
In light of these changes, yesterday Delta also issued an RFP for the DTW and MSP regional hub operations we currently handle. This work will transition to another service provider as well, with the result of the RFP being communicated to us in early September. Since the scope of work in the hub RFPs is the same as we currently provide, we also anticipate that the new supplier will need most if not all of our hub people.
The decision to transition Regional Elite operations was not easy, nor made lightly, and it certainly is not a reflection of your professionalism or dedication to each other and the customers you serve every day. It is a reflection of the current state of the airline industry. Mainline carriers like Delta face incredible cost pressures and the ongoing reductions of smaller regional jets have added significant pressure on regional suppliers. We’ve seen this with the recent announcements that Comair and PinnPro Ground Services are ceasing operations. ExpressJet and SkyWest have drastically reduced their ground handling services as well. As we’ve seen more mainline aircraft showing up in regional stations, traditional aviation service providers have gained a presence in regional markets – many of which competed with us and won this Delta business.
I know you will have many questions about what this means for you and your families. Your leadership team is committed to providing you with the tools and information needed to make an informed decision. In these transitions from one service provider to another, it is very common for the new provider to need most, if not all, of the skilled professionals currently working in a station. Our goal is to help preserve as many jobs as possible during this transition, and severance or retention packages, as applicable, will be available for everyone.
In the coming days, you can expect to receive additional briefings from your leaders – including field town hall conference calls and hub town hall meetings. Additional communication specific to your station also will be available.
Your leadership team and People department are here to answer any additional questions you may have, and you have my commitment to share additional information about the transition timeline and job opportunities with the replacement providers as quickly as we know it.
Over the past three years we’ve strived to be the best at providing regional handling services, but now the regional industry is undergoing significant change. While I regret this outcome, I remain proud of and grateful for all you do every day. Thank you for staying focused on running a safe operation, and taking care of each other and our customers as we work through this transition.


User currently offlinefreakyrat From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 843 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12596 times:
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This will just hasten the day that Delta mainline flying moves back to SBN. Also SBN needs larger pushback tugs and ground support equipment to handle mainline aircraft during Notre Dame Football season so the mainline aircraft can use the newer concourse gates. DGS can provide that. I hope the wonderful SBN ground employees find jobs with the new provider.

User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12129 times:

DL's screwing over of XJ and OH is now complete. Sell XJ to 9E shuts down XJ HQ and then files bankruptcy and screws over most of the former XJ staff. Just shut down OH and REAS, the combination of the former XJ and OH ground handling divisions.  

I am so glad to be out of the airline side of the industry so I don't have to deal with all of the instability and general lack of corporate ethics!


User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12099 times:

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 20):
DGS can provide that.

If needed they will but DGS equipment is DL equipment.

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 13):
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 12):

That being said... I think DL should just do mainline above/below wing everywhere. Keep it inhouse, so when the station doesn't meet operational goals, they can only blame themselves.

That'd be wonderful for everyone but Delta! Even Southwest who has historically lived by this business plan is looking to outsource now! I agree with you Kai but I think we're living in a dream world!

Some cities don't have as many flights as major cities do. Why pay senior mainline employees to work in a station where all the city sees is a CRJ-200? The airline would lose even more then they already are on that flight

[Edited 2012-08-07 18:50:20]


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12049 times:

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 17):
Aren't DGS employees S4 on everyone but mainline?

Nope, not when I worked there. Then again, it's been a few years.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11846 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 21):
DL's screwing over of XJ and OH is now complete. Sell XJ to 9E shuts down XJ HQ and then files bankruptcy and screws over most of the former XJ staff. Just shut down OH and REAS, the combination of the former XJ and OH ground handling divisions.

The unfortunate result of a merger, as I keep saying. In my honest opinion, DL lied the whole time about shutting down OH, XJ, and of course MEM and CVG as I keep saying. I reference newspaper reports from when the merger began claiming "nothing will be cut."



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25 DeltaL1011man : .......want to refer me to the section of the contract that stopped them from doing this with a union? hey now. Lets not forget about maintenance....
26 FlyASAGuy2005 : Not much. The "corporate" side of RE was very small. The overall headcount in Minny will not change much. All the employees (those that chose to) wil
27 malaysia : I am not so sure now, but back then when I worked in management with DGS, supervisors and above were S3 (also had S2 annual balance) and had full mai
28 B727FA : RE was already a mash of XJ and OH folks...many pretty SR, at that. Now a meld into DGS? Yikes. RE: paying ML folks to work "only" RJ's, just look at
29 DeltaL1011man : Yep. Delta work should be done by Delta employees. Not ASA. not DGS. Not Air France. Delta mainline employees. which is crap. They should have to sta
30 syncmaster : They also need to learn how to de-ice in a timely manner. Or push back an aircraft when it's snowing. But I digress. I can't say this surprises me, D
31 KaiGywer : Hey now...this wasn't meant as an anti union comment, but it was well known that where XJ/RE would have 4 agents working 4 flights in a 20-30 minute
32 T5towbar : They do???? Didn't know that one...... Wish we had an extra agent. At sCO, we only get a lead and 1 agent. If lucky, a bag runner (which does 2 gates
33 mayor : As I recall, what DL said is that no DELTA "frontline" employees would be cut. Are these people DL frontline employees (meaning mainline)? Nope.
34 DeltaL1011man : I was just checking. I get that staffing requirements could be an issue. It was no frontline lay-offs. No frontline employees have been laid off. per
35 DLX737200 : How could they have been less expensive? Paying $8.75 an hour and topping out at $11 something an hour is so expensive!
36 freakyrat : Quoting freakyrat (Reply 20): This will just hasten the day that Delta mainline flying moves back to SBN. Also SBN needs larger pushback tugs and grou
37 NWAESC : Well known to whom?! The above claim is patently false. An A/C such as a 757 or DC9-50 may need 3 people to unload/load it. That is a logistic (or vo
38 B727FA : Wow. sCo has 2 agents on flights? I'm impressed. I'm giddy when I see more than one period on ANY ML flight...let alone 2; and a Lead to boot? Dang!
39 burnsie28 : DGS employees are not eligible for ID-90's. S3C on mainline S3CR not on mainline. DGS employees have "Delta" badges, it just has a blue strip at the
40 Kcrwflyer : I'm surprised to see you bringing SBN into a discussion..lol. I doubt very seriously that DL planning is looking where to put aircraft based on who i
41 psumd80 : Is it possible to work up to mainline benefits with any of these ground handling companies?
42 m11stephen : Wow... so who is going to take over for REAS in all these cities?
43 Shamrock137 : This brings interesting developments beyond DL handling as well. Recently at MHT, ABE and LFT, Expressjet was providing the ground handling for the pm
44 NWAESC : I agree. The only kicker may be that equipment was distributed to other cities, that may again be needed. Just as an example, if a city formerly had
45 bhmdiversion : IMHO, Delta will probably never fly mainline aircraft into SBN. There might be a chance for an upgrade of equipment due to Notre Dame football games,
46 DLX737200 : Absolutely agree! I remember when Comair lost the OMA contract to Midwest, then Midwest pulled out of the contract and Comair, then operating as Regi
47 FWAERJ : 9E has an even bigger MX shop at FWA than at SBN; and as a result, most of the DCI FWA flying is 9E CR2s with some EV CR2s mixed in. The 9E hangar han
48 Post contains images mayor : Well, ya don't necessarily need belts to work a DC-9 (or derivatives) but they would come in handy, in some cases.
49 apodino : REAS just signed ground handling deals for several UA stations including ATW...what happens to them now?
50 FWAERJ : I assume that they will be transfered to DGS, much like how many REAS-handled DCI stations will.
51 Post contains images NWAESC : You do if you like having operable shoulders...
52 mayor : Mine are still working fine and I worked in SHV for 2 years and almost never used a belt on a DC-9.........however, my KNEES are another story.......
53 NWAESC : I've got one that's seen better days, and would like to keep the other one intact. I'll also never be accused of being tall, so even loading the front
54 bhmdiversion : DGS is already a UAX ground handler and has been increasing their trainers recently... Wouldn't be surprised if this all transistions to DGS.
55 freakyrat : Regional Elite has all the equipment at SBN excerpt the heavy tugs to push mainline equipment out of the new gates. The gates are however designed for
56 N766UA : Obviously, hence the "if you knew what you were doing" part. Ineligible and unable are two completely different things.[Edited 2012-08-08 15:26:17]
57 FlyASAGuy2005 : Is it? So if it carries a Delta code then DL people should work it? What about a/c that are owned by EV. Still, none of this matters. I don't see the
58 dlramp4life : A tad bit over the edge eh? I was just saying that outsourcing makes sense in certain stations, NOT ALL OF THEM. ^^Agreed
59 ocracoke : But DGS only does ramp handling, correct? I don't think I've ever seem them work passenger service, like REAS does. So at a station where REAS does e
60 XPJets : From the sounds of it, they're banking on the re-badged REAS employees and training staff to form the "new" above-wing sector of DGS.
61 NWAESC : Good question. I know that DGS has and/or will be doing both for UAX in some cities. I suspect that they'll do the same thing in DCI cities where the
62 FlyASAGuy2005 : Should have read a grand total of 5 CR2s per day.
63 Post contains images KaiGywer : Granted this is from premerger, but we were always told that due to the way NW set up their staffing, each gate had X people assigned to it. If a CRJ
64 FlyASAGuy2005 : I have a friend that's a lead at DL. He's currently on C (talking about ATL). Went there for days off but will be going back to mainline gates. He's
65 Post contains images DeltaL1011man : errr idk? my guess is you need to ask the person at DL who said they cost to much? yep. If it has Delta anywhere on the side, if it has a Delta code,
66 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Not quite. In flow through programs, pilots keep relative seniority (there is a formula to which IDK). None in place for EV but one still in place fo
67 DeltaL1011man : I know the story....don't care. Here is the deal, when that happened (what? 05-07 frame) those people would have come to work at Delta or...... unemp
68 Post contains images NWAESC : When that city opens on eBid, can you message me? Told by whom? Usually a crew had 2-3 gates. 1 lead, and maybe 3 guys. One of those ran locals. Some
69 bhmdiversion : Only Managers and Supervisors are eligible for a DGS badge - regular employees only will have a SIDA badge.
70 mayor : Mainly because his boss was Skywest, not DL
71 FlyASAGuy2005 : You may not care but 1200+ people did. If you could have hired and trained over 1,000 agents in a 3 month span then more power to you. Mind you, in 2
72 burnsie28 : It must depend on job and location, a lot of DGS employees that are not managers and supervisors have Delta "DGS" badges and SIDA badges, and office
73 T5towbar : Let me ask a question: What was the major differences between REAS and DGS? It seems to me like cost is the big factor here. Did they compete against
74 FlyASAGuy2005 : RE was actually a spin-off of sorts. A product of DL bringing all the wholly-owned regional below wing (and above wing in some stations) under one ro
75 DeltaL1011man : never mind.......Not even worth getting my blood pressure up. mods please remove.[Edited 2012-08-11 08:04:40]
76 burnsie28 : It's also limited to 30 days/yr for DGS employees. Regional Elite was unlimited, no buddy passes for DGS either.
77 FlyASAGuy2005 : 30 travel days? That sucks. That's what CO-OP and interns get.
78 burnsie28 : CO-OP and Interns also fly on S3 priority too.
79 FlyASAGuy2005 : I interned with ASA in the Flight OPS department some years back; two summers in a row. Flight benefits were okay but the best part was unlimited jum
80 NWAdeicer : That is one thing I would love to do. I've been in 172's and helicopters but sitting up front in some heavy metal would be awesome.
81 T5towbar : Well the good news is that we got our work back from DGS in IAH eff. 11/15/12. (I think they did the former 9L work). Our M/L People will be doing ALL
82 FlyASAGuy2005 : I use to wonder why DL didn't do the US work in ATL. Before US brought it all back in house late last year, DGS had the contract for them. Someone sa
83 dlramp4life : Any word on DCI handling in DTW and MSP?
84 FlyASAGuy2005 : As of right now, it will simply transition over to DGS from RE. All mainline and CP work will continue to be handled by DL employees. Everything from
85 bhmdiversion : The RFP was announced; however, no decision has been made as of today (Monday).
86 KGRB : Does anyone know if DGS ground service equipment has DGS or DL logos on it? Here in ATW the Regional Elite equipment is a mixture of REAS and DL logos
87 KingAir200 : B/C is all REAS, in terms of actually touching the airplanes. The DL people on B/C only deal with baggage. Varies. Some pieces say Delta, some DGS, s
88 bhmdiversion : Most will have Delta on it, but certain pieces like bag carts, might say DGS on them spelled out. I am sure most of it will be put through the Dela c
89 dlramp4life : DGS equipment is owned by DL, so a pushback, tug, beltloader, etc. might have the DL logo on it here and there.
90 Post contains images NWAESC : We still have a few grey pieces here.
91 Post contains images KingAir200 : Everyone loves a good throwback
92 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : A whole lot!! In MSP practically all the jet tugs are grey along with most of the belt loaders unless they're new. Only thing DL did was slap DL stic
93 PHX787 : My uncle works for R.E. and he's been notified that he may be transferred to whoever works for Pinnacle/SkyWest, or may have his position sold to AMR
94 TUSAA : American Eagle will be taking over the ramp in 15 of the 27 stations that AA will start outsourcing in late october.
95 FlyASAGuy2005 : Below wing work in MIA is DGS. Above wing is DL.
96 kmot : No, REAS provides the below wing handling at MIA for DL.
97 PHX787 : Ok I will say this about my uncle's position: It doesn't involve the flights directly, but rather, behind the scenes (in the tower but not an ATC/dis
98 FlyASAGuy2005 : Color me blue... When did that happen? RE is fairly young and the ramp hasn't been mainline for many years so was it DGS before them?
99 phaetonfell : Regional Elite inherited the contract from Comair when RE was formed in 2009. Comair had done the handling for a couple of years prior to that point.
100 phaetonfell : Sounds like a game of telephone. No positions are being transferred to Pinnacle or sold to AMR. Regional Elite is not affiliated directly with either
101 PHX787 : I agree, but I'll make sure I'll let you all know once I hear from him for sure.
102 DLX737200 : Just heard from some folks at REAS being transitioned to DGS. Here's the details for their city: - New ramp employees start at $8.25, above wing start
103 KaiGywer : So they'll be even more bastard stepchildren under the DGS banner than they were under REAS...wow.
104 dlramp4life : That is just the how the airport services provider industry works with wages... WFS, ATS, Swissport, Servisair, Menzies, and all the other numerous co
105 flycrj24 : The details vary by station. Our station starts at 7.75 and top out at 9.60. This is good and bad, myself currently gets 9.25 and would get 9.60 with
106 burnsie28 : Also limited to 30 days of travel per year (limited to 18 transatlantic)
107 kmot : Only if you are Ready Reserve.
108 mayor : Does DGS also have Ready Reserve?
109 m11stephen : Does anyone know what the pay and benefits are like at American Eagle? They seem to be taking over A LOT of stations. Thanks!
110 NWAESC : TravelNet states that DL Ready Reserves have unlimited S3 travel.
111 dlramp4life : No, but you can be an on call employee but there is no hour cap like DL ready reserves.
112 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : If you're talking mainline RR that's not true. They get S3s right in training. S2s and buddy passes after one year of service. I also wasn't aware th
113 burnsie28 : Not true, DGS office employees are limited to that.
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