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The End Of The 737-600?  
User currently offlinedlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 544 posts, RR: 7
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18223 times:
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Boeing updated the list prices of their commercial airliners yesterday and the 737-600 is missing from the list. This is interpreted to mean that its no longer available. It has been six years since the last 737-600 was delivered.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/

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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18131 times:

Quoting dlednicer (Thread starter):
Boeing updated the list prices of their commercial airliners yesterday and the 737-600 is missing from the list. This is interpreted to mean that its no longer available. It has been six years since the last 737-600 was delivered.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/

The non-ER versions of the 772 and 773 are also missing from the list as well. I wonder if they are also out of production.



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18113 times:

Quoting dlednicer (Thread starter):
Boeing updated the list prices of their commercial airliners yesterday and the 737-600 is missing from the list. This is interpreted to mean that its no longer available. It has been six years since the last 737-600 was delivered.

Most probably, yes. I love those little 737's, but there is so much more better equipment available in the 100+ range, and it will be even better with the MRJ, Cseries, E-jets(NG's) and possibly F120. The CASM is so high, that in these difficult economic times, even the advantage of fleet commonality hardly makes up for the extra costs.

Unfortunate, but i don't expect to see a lot of A318's and 737-600's in 2 to 3 years..


Maurice  


User currently offlineCO764 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18073 times:

Neither is the 737-900 (non-ER).


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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 18019 times:

Quoting CO764 (Reply 3):
Neither is the 737-900 (non-ER).

The 737-900 ended production pretty much immediately after the 739ER entered service. It has been out of production for a while now.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19933 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17855 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
The non-ER versions of the 772 and 773 are also missing from the list as well. I wonder if they are also out of production.

I think boeing would make them for you if you really wanted. All the parts are still made and the tooling is the same. I just think that they anticipate no orders and so no reason to even list them.

I seem to recall that the trip costs on the 736 were basically equivalent to the trip cost on the 73G and higher than the trip cost on the 735, so airlines really didn't much like them.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17723 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I seem to recall that the trip costs on the 736 were basically equivalent to the trip cost on the 73G and higher than the trip cost on the 735, so airlines really didn't much like them.

Another problem was that the TODR and LDR weren't near to what airlines would have liked to see, it was just way to heavy. Major point for airlines like WestJet and SAS which serve rather small markets. Also don't forget that it was designed in a time where fuel cost wasn't that much relevant, and they could easily just raise the ticket price for the nichemarket, as people where willing to pay for it anyway.


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17521 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I think boeing would make them for you if you really wanted. All the parts are still made and the tooling is the same. I just think that they anticipate no orders and so no reason to even list them.

Interestingly, the 764ER is still listed.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17503 times:

Janet is going to be quite unhappy...   Of course, I'm sure Boeing would reneg for the government  


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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17426 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
Interestingly, the 764ER is still listed.

Maybe because they still believe it could be an interesting parcel plane, maybe for UPS in the future? And in the past it was intended to be used for the E-10 programm, which would have leaded to about 200+ 767-400's. So might it be that Boeing still believes that they will sell some to some forces in the future?


User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17225 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
Janet is going to be quite unhappy... Of course, I'm sure Boeing would reneg for the government

WS can always give them theirs when they are done with them.  


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31106 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 17123 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I think boeing would make them for you if you really wanted. All the parts are still made and the tooling is the same. I just think that they anticipate no orders and so no reason to even list them.

I expect this is the case. With no orders for years for these models and better options available within the same family, I can see Boeing formally withdrawing them from general offer.



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
Interestingly, the 764ER is still listed.
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 9):
Maybe because they still believe it could be an interesting parcel plane, maybe for UPS in the future?

Boeing did pitch a 767-400ERF to FX as an alternative to the A330-200F, but in the end FX decided to order the 767-300F.

I expect the 767-400ER will eventually be withdrawn from offer, as well, once the 787-8's production is stable.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 17041 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
Janet is going to be quite unhappy...

I doubt it. Janet's are all used aircraft, ex-Air China, and I'm sure they could easily find more used -600s if they needed them.


User currently offlinebriboy From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16682 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
I doubt it. Janet's are all used aircraft, ex-Air China, and I'm sure they could easily find more used -600s if they needed them.

I am sure WS and SK would be more than willing to talk...



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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16514 times:

OS also has a pair, but not sure for how much longer.

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3151 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16470 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
I expect the 767-400ER will eventually be withdrawn from offer, as well, once the 787-8's production is stable.

A new display system would have to be developed for the 767-400. The current 767-400 style display system (which is different from the 767-200/-300 and all other models) is not longer available from the supplier due to component obsolescence issues.

Several lower gross weight non-ER 767-200 and -300 variants are also no longer offered for sale.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19933 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15746 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
I expect this is the case. With no orders for years for these models and better options available within the same family, I can see Boeing formally withdrawing them from general offer.

Exactly. But if (hypothetically) someone went to Boeing and said: "We really want more 777-200ER's, not LR's, not 77Ws." Boeing would not say: "No, we couldn't possibly take your money. We're too good for that. Go to Airbus and ask them what they can do for you."   They'd try to talk them into ordering LR's (the LR has only very slightly higher fuel burn on shorter segments than the 772 and otherwise is absolutely the superior aircraft), but they aren't going to refuse money.

Similarly, if you *really* want a 762 or 736 and won't settle for anything else, they can build you one, but they'll be scratching their heads all the way to the bank.

Now, if someone showed up begging for 757's, that tooling has been destroyed and so no-can-do. Here, have a look at our fine line of pre-owned aircraft...


User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15341 times:

Quoting dlednicer (Thread starter):
This is interpreted to mean that its no longer available.

I believe "assume" might be a better term. Until they say no more, I wouldn't bet on it.



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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3867 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14902 times:
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Right. If airlines were still interested in the 600 (only SAS has a large fleet of those) Boeing would offer it in the MAX variant. Boeing is offering the 700, 800 and 900 in MAX variant, and not the 600, because they know that no airline would be interested. Even the BBJ doesn't exist as a 600 variant. I don't think SAS will order anymore 600s from Boeing.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlinehOmsaR From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12942 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Now, if someone showed up begging for 757's, that tooling has been destroyed and so no-can-do.

But based on all the threads on a.net, the line of people begging for 757s should be out the door a mile long.



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User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9683 times:

Quoting hOmsaR (Reply 19):
But based on all the threads on a.net, the line of people begging for 757s should be out the door a mile long.

That's 757 enthusiasts begging for 757s. The airlines know they're not being built and won't be, so they'll go for something else. More accurately, they're going for something else; the closest thing that will meet their needs.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9432 times:

I agree .... The B757 replacement is needed......


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1827 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9432 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 20):
hat's 757 enthusiasts begging for 757s. The airlines know they're not being built and won't be, so they'll go for something else. More accurately, they're going for something else; the closest thing that will meet their needs.

So that's why Boeing has a study for a 757 replacement? They just love to waste resources and money.


User currently offlineACdreamliner From UK - Scotland, joined May 2005, 519 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9385 times:

Sad times indeed. Always said if I won the Euromillions, the first thing I'd do is jump on a plane to buy a 737-600 new build for a private jet... Love the hot rods!

Looks like it will have to be used  



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1948 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9298 times:
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Ok so a brand new B748i is US$351.4m and I have AU$800 in my bank account. Bit of saving to be done yet!

On a more serious note, it is always sad to see an aircraft end production (presuming that by not listing it Boeing has decided to stop producing the B736) but I don't think it comes as a major surprise to anyone. There aircraft was built in different times and was never particurarly popular. I believe that a fair few of these (including some of the now defunct Malev fleet) are already on their way to the scrap heap, some of the frames ten years old or less.



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25 Post contains images airboe : Yes it is dead long time ago. Soon the A318 will follow, - i guess they only have a couple of VIP/Elite left - if not BA is going to surprise the mar
26 United_fan : Between you and I we couldn't even afford a wiper balde .
27 817Dreamliiner : Well it was only a matter of time before Boeing took the 737-600 out of its offering. Like the -900 (original version) it wasnt a strong seller and it
28 GCT64 : Both went to St Athan, have been stripped of parts and appear to be awaiting the final stages of scrapping.
29 zkojq : No they were scrapped. I believe it was April or May this year that they made their final voyage to the scrapper at St Athan, Wales. Didn't Boeing de
30 tonymctigue : Not with that attidute we won't! Never say never! I'm surprised that the 764ER of all is still listed since there were only 37 of them built, all of
31 SKAirbus : I believe the 757 replacement is the A321NEO... First of all most airlines operate it in a higher config than the 757 and with extended range on the n
32 Post contains images someone83 : There has been delivered three -200ER so far in 2012. ANA has received two, one in April and one in May, while the most recent one was one to Asiana,
33 Stitch : Boeing does plenty of concepts and studies that never see the light of day. The funding and staffing levels are probably very low.
34 msp747 : Boeing's own website says the 764's cockpit design is the same as the 777, to minimize training between the two aircraft. If that's the case, why wou
35 BoeingGuy : There are similarities in display formats, although the 777's flight deck has far more capability. However, not only is the design architecture very
36 tdscanuck : Boeing also has a study for a 1500 person flying boat and one for a 500' wingspan ground-effect cargo plane...this does not mean any of them have a s
37 Post contains links Stitch : Boeing and Rockwell Collins have developed a new flight deck for the 757 and 767 leveraging the KC-46A flight deck - http://www.rockwellcollins.com/s
38 sweair : Statements like these make many believe they are serious about it. "Boeing chief executive Jim McNerney confirms a replacement for the long-haul 757-2
39 Post contains images Stitch : When Jim McNerney confirms a replacement for the long-haul 757-200 market segment is being launched, that is when I will believe they are serious abou
40 Post contains images lightsaber : I would love to see Boeing try to sell a new 736 vs. the C-series. That to me summarizes this whole discussion. Boeing used to say "The number one com
41 tdscanuck : There is a *huge* difference between a 757 replacement (what you brought up) and a replacement for the 757-200 *market segment* (that McNerney brough
42 ADent : There were 38 built and the last is reportedly a VIP bird. 37 were built for CO (now UA) and DL. Much later one was built for the US military to be u
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