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Six More A333s For Air Asia X  
User currently onlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12467 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6799 times:

Air Asia X will add six more A330s to its fleet for regional operations, on lease from ILFC:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...e-Airbus-A330-300-Aircraft-AirAsia

Good news; clearly, although Air Asia X has axed its long haul operations, its regional routes are growing healthily and long may this continue.

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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6301 times:

Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

Cheers   



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User currently offlineairtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1558 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

Don't think they need that for regional routes.

Great news for sure, any idea about the destinations ?



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6186 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Great news!

Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

Cheers   

The release seems to indicate these are used frames, not new. So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6914 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6111 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

Well, they'll have RR so that narrows it down a bit.

Of ILFC's customers, I think only Cathay have that many RR A333s. I find it hard to believe that this is the source.


User currently offlineBreninTW From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1644 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 1):
Wonder if it will be A330-ER (the latest model w longer range)

The article also says they're the 233-ton version.



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User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6049 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
The release seems to indicate these are used frames, not new. So the question is - who is disposing of 6 A333's?

They are 233T version, same as they have, but someone giving up 6 is a good question.

They do have one odd ball in the fleet, their first 333 is a used GE powered unit, wonder if one will replace it.

They seem to be doing well on flights 5 to 8 hours from base, so that may give an idea on routes.


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

Quoting col (Reply 6):
They are 233T version, same as they have, but someone giving up 6 is a good question

Not got an answer but there's lots of airlines, gettign 787s over the next 18 months maybe these could be frames released by these arrivals?


User currently offlinejoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Of ILFC's customers, I think only Cathay have that many RR A333s. I find it hard to believe that this is the source.

Well, Dragonair already started to dispose of some of their RR-powered A330s. B-HYE left Dragonair for Air Transat in 2009, B-HYD followed in 2011 and B-HYF is now also in TS colors. If Airfleets is correct, many of them are ILFC frames.

From B-HYF, Dragonairs frames are A330-343s (with the newer Trent 700 772B/C-60). Are these 233t-capable?


User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5727 times:

Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.


raggi



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User currently offlinejoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):

Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.

Except that it's explicitly mentioned in the article:

Quote:
These aircraft are the same model as those that AirAsia X purchased directly from Airbus, with Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines and a Maximum Take-Off Weight of 233 tons.


User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5480 times:

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):
Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE, so I don't think any used or new 333 would absolutely positively have to be Rollers.

Would be surprised if the 332 ever make it on property.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6914 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5372 times:

Quoting raggi (Reply 9):
Don't forget that their new 332s coming along will be GE

They ordered just three, then converted one to a -300 and recently cancelled another. That leaves just one.

Quoting col (Reply 11):

Would be surprised if the 332 ever make it on property.

Quite.


User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Quoting joost (Reply 10):
Quoting col (Reply 11):
Quoting PM (Reply 12):

ok, my bad, I agree with y'all after reading the article properly.
In light of your posts it looks like they'll eventually have an all RR 300 A330 fleet, which makes sense after giving up on longhaul.



Stick & Rudder
User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4602 times:

Quoting joost (Reply 8):
Well, Dragonair already started to dispose of some of their RR-powered A330s. B-HYE left Dragonair for Air Transat in 2009, B-HYD followed in 2011 and B-HYF is now also in TS colors. If Airfleets is correct, many of them are ILFC frames.

Indeed. 6 aircraft are coming off lease. 3 in 2012 and 3 in 2013.



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

Hmm, last month 9M-XXI (c/n 1321) was not taken up and is now going to Hongkong Jet as VP-CBE and now AirAsia X announces additional A330's? Strange...  


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User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 15):
Hmm, last month 9M-XXI (c/n 1321) was not taken up and is now going to Hongkong Jet as VP-CBE and now AirAsia X announces additional A330's? Strange...  

I would expect this is more to do with timing.


User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 14):

Indeed. 6 aircraft are coming off lease. 3 in 2012 and 3 in 2013

I understand they will soon get 2x regional configured 333 from CX, and another 2x from... not sure. So it means they will just be replaced by 4x 333 ?


User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4768 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Per JP fleets HLB/C/E are 212K, all other KA A333 are 205K including all 6 ILFC leased birds.But its possible they are built to 233K standard but certified for lower weights for KA.

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