2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 1995 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 16337 times:
1 No Greek airline flies to Brazil.
2 Organisers of flying the flag, didn't ask a Greek airline if interested to fly flag from LON to RIO.
3 The founder of the modern Olympics was French.
4 The official language of the International Olympic Committee is French
5 BA and JJ were out-bidden by AF to fly the flag to GIG.
AF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1032 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 16322 times:
Some brazilians are actually questioning that. It's true that JJ keeps a 3x weekly service to GIG but it only operates Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays from LHR.
The information is that the Brazilian Olympic Comittee and Rio's local government consulted JJ first if they had interest in flying the flag to GIG nonstop from LHR. JJ wasn't interested in making a stop at GIG on their scheduled LHR-GRU flight (making it LHR-GIG-GRU for a day) monday night to carry the Olympic Flag and the 30 members of its entourage (with a large number of them flying business class).
JJ wasn't also interested in flying a special LHR-GIG charter using the 77W that arrives at LHR in the morning (and flying a reserve aircraft to LHR to cover the schedules LHR-GRU service).
I don't know why BA wasn't chosen given that they serve LHR-GIG nonstop on mondays. But it would be the same: Brazil's flag carrier wasn't interested in carrying home the Olympic flag. Kinda sad. And bad PR for TAM.
I heard from some cariocas that if the Olympics were at São Paulo, TAM would not only bring the flag but make an event of it.
On the other hand, AF scored a home-run. They had their brand exposed worldwide and associated with Rio and the Olympics. Oh and they got paid for that since plane tickets are not free and not particularly cheap.
AF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1032 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 15838 times:
Quoting jumpjets (Reply 8): JJ has 3 non-stops to GIG but the daily GRU service from LHR is also shown as extending to GIG. So they could have taken the flag home to Rio.
The nonstop doesn't operate on mondays ex-LHR. The onestop flight isn't actually flown all the way to Rio with the same plane. There is an aircraft change at GRU from the 77W to the 320.
It was important for the BOC and Rio's government that the flag's first stop in Brazil was in Rio, home of the 2016 games. That's why they consulted JJ to fly LHR-GIG-GRU instead of LHR-GRU for a single time.
Quoting Bthebest (Reply 9): I'm surprised BA didn't do it as they are the official airline, sponsor or whatever. Maybe the Rio delegation didn't want BA involved as they've already had their turn?
I guess BA was probably outbidded by AF. Since their first choice (JJ) didn't take the mission they made a bid for the service.
Quoting AF086 (Reply 12): The nonstop doesn't operate on mondays ex-LHR. The onestop flight isn't actually flown all the way to Rio with the same plane. There is an aircraft change at GRU from the 77W to the 320.
Irrelevant since there is no AF non-stop between England and GIG either so the flag did no go non-stop to GIG anyway.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6617 posts, RR: 17 Reply 23, posted (9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5866 times:
Quoting AF086 (Reply 12): I guess BA was probably outbidded by AF.
The inflation figures (the Consumer Price Index or CPI for the UK for July) showed an unexpected increase of 0.2 per cent over the previous month. According to the UK Office for National Statistics:
"The biggest factor in the increase in CPI was air fare prices, which rose 21.7% on the month."
Whether or not this more than signidficant increase was related in any way to London 2012 is probably a matter for conjecture. But I think it is likely to have played a significant part.
When the Brazilian delegation were looking for a good deal for their return trip to London BA and indeed TAM would likely be unwilling to compete with the likes of AF with the sort of yields they were obtainig on day-to-day tichet sales for direct flights.
The Brazilian delegation was, according to the link to the AF web site, quite big:
"On this occasion, members of the Brazilian olympic delegation are also flying London-Paris-Rio with Air France today. 35 passengers including the mayor of Rio, the president of the Brazilian Olympic Committee, athletes, journalists and the governor of the state of Rio are bringing back the olympic flag with them."
So whether or not to offer a significant discount to a party of dignatories many of whom were likekly to demand to travel in a premium class seat would likely be a no brainer for BA yield management.