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Virgin Australia Goes Full Service On Perth Flight  
User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7968 times:

Virgin Australia from 26SEP will become full service on long haul trans-con flights SYD/BNE/MEL-PER. Economy passengers will receive meals and beverages regardless of fare type.

http://www.airlinehubbuzz.com/virgin...nhances-trans-continental-flights/


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User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

plenty of travel between Perth and the Eastern States now.

User currently offlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

Would at least one piece of checked in baggage be included as well? That would make it full service for sure.

Maybe slightly off topic but I will have to say DJ is definitely becoming more Star Alliance compatible than NZ. Just look at NZ's AKL-PER with their Seats 2 Suit model. It's three hours longer but often the fares don't include meals, no check in bags, no official inflight entertainment (abiet the 772 hardware doesn't support locking movie contents by seat so on 772 it's PTV contents are free to all). It's quite interesting to see these 2 alliance partners have chosen the excat opposite direction.


User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7641 times:

I am very glad that we are seeing DJ take this up market approach, the competition they are bringing to QF will only lead to better products and services. What shape will the economy meals take? Long-Haul standard? It will be interesting to see if we see this expanded across other services.

How does DJ service break down? Capital jet services receive snacks, capital to capital after four free beer and wine, all other BOB and now Perth-East Coast full service. Bit confusing no?

I am very curious to see how the reactionary QF responds, they seem to have mid-long term plans in the pipe work. Will be interesting to hear what they announce over the next couple of months.


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7619 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 2):
Maybe slightly off topic but I will have to say DJ is definitely becoming more Star Alliance compatible than NZ. Just look at NZ's AKL-PER with their Seats 2 Suit model. It's three hours longer but often the fares don't include meals, no check in bags, no official inflight entertainment. It's quite interesting to see these 2 alliance partners have chosen the excat opposite direction.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Funny how 1 was a LCC now turning into a legacy while the other was a legacy now moving towards an LCC. I know many in NZ don't agree with it either


User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 7456 times:

still can't see them taking Qantas business market though. just a market for people holidaying over east

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7294 times:

I think VA has started to realise that it's going to be impossible for them to compete with QF on key routes while offering a lesser service. The branding hasn't matched the experience, which is a big turnoff for customers in Y.

As shocking as it sounds, Y is equally as important as J for the airline when it comes to corporate travel. Fly on any peak hour capital city service and you'll realise that Y is full of high-fare corporate passengers, who expect to find a level of service similar to what they have had in the past on QF, which means free baggage, drinks and the offer of something to eat.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 3):
Bit confusing no?

Very confusing... There are also reports on some regional flights of small snacks being served alongside the beverage service. They need to decide what they are doing and apply it across the board before they start running into some major consistency issues. Even on their small fleet of A330's, you could end up on a brand new aircraft, with lieflats in J, international style Y and a new IFE system, or on a 15 year old ex-EK aircraft with an equally old product and IFE system...

Quoting weebie (Reply 5):
still can't see them taking Qantas business market though. just a market for people holidaying over east

If that was the case then they wouldn't be upgrading the service. They would be better off retaining their lower cost base and offering lower fares.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5580 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 3):
Bit confusing no?

To be honest, I think it's a complete mess! Their product offering is so confused it's incredible.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 6):
There are also reports on some regional flights of small snacks being served alongside the beverage service

SkyWest ATR franchise routes come with free drinks and snacks (including alcohol after 4)



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User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

The key issue is frequent flyers. Everyone wants one world platinum and no one would haev a clue what even the program for Virgin is. I personally think they'll benefit from the ever increasing demand from holiday makers looking for the cheaper price but in Business they will struggle. Luckilly for Qantas they have a another brand similar to virgin in Jetstar.

User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

Jet star is nothing like Virgin Australia. Qantas are the underdog now IMO.

User currently offlineTruemanqld From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1543 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 9):
Jet star is nothing like Virgin Australia. Qantas are the underdog now IMO.

??? That is a very odd statement. Please explain. QF still has a significantly larger share of the business passengers, with a much more consistent, and arguably better offering. In terms of passenger perspective, QF is certainly the much better airline. So Im interested as to how QF is the underdog...


User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3953 times:

I know hundreds of people who have used Qantas Business. Nobody who has used Virgin Business. Virgin are completely out of their league in the business sector imo. their product is irrelavent, it's the frequent flyers with one world which is what most business travellers will care about the most by an absolute mile.

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
SkyWest ATR franchise routes come with free drinks and snacks (including alcohol after 4)

Even more confusing! So regional services receive a higher standard of service than regular mainline -- strange... At least with QF, one knows what they are getting when they book the flight.

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 9):
Jet star is nothing like Virgin Australia. Qantas are the underdog now IMO.

Virgin is doing a lot of jumping around trying to be noticed, and they are doing it exceptionally well. But they are still the weaker airline, trying to make up ground on QF/JQ, doing what they can to pull corporate customers and still unable to show a positive financial impact resulting from the rebranding/overhaul.

QF will never be the underdog in the domestic market. They are too big and strong to be challenged.


User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 12):
They are too big and strong to be challenged.

Yes... that theory worked well for PANAM, Eastern, Varig, Ansett, Sabena, Swissair........



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 9):
Jet star is nothing like Virgin Australia. Qantas are the underdog now IMO

You are entitled to your opinion sir, I am very intrigued as to how you arrived at such an opinion and the logic of it.



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