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DL To Have A Greater Presence At MKE?  
User currently offlineIllinoisMan From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 153 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12032 times:

Didn't see this one coming.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/del...ming-rights-pv6glri-166260126.html

"Downtown Milwaukee's Frontier Airlines Center apparently will be replacing "Frontier" in its moniker with "Delta."

Delta Air Lines Inc., which is increasing its operations at Mitchell International Airport, has reached an agreement to purchase the convention center's naming rights, according to two sources familiar with the pending transaction.

"I know it's in the works," said one source, who spoke only on the condition of not being identified.

Delta spokeswoman Chris Kelly declined to comment, citing a corporate policy of not discussing rumors.

Franklyn Gimbel, board chairman of the Wisconsin Center District, which owns and operates the convention center, said recently that an agreement has been reached with a new naming rights partner for the last year of the current agreement with Frontier Airlines."


[Edited 2012-08-15 10:45:50]

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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6423 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Interestingly, NW once had a focus city at MKE. I wonder why DL wants to increase operations.


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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2434 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11918 times:

Quoting IllinoisMan (Thread starter):
Didn't see this one coming.

Yeah this is a surprise, especially since the article says that WN wasn't involved at all in the selection process. A lot of people on here seem convinced that WN will eventually drop most of its MKE flights, but even if that does happen this at least makes me more hopeful that DL would step in and fill the void.



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User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11796 times:

Between this and the incredibly aggressive purchase of all Frontier Miles... Delta has to be thinking of doing something big in MKE.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22680 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11767 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 2):
A lot of people on here seem convinced that WN will eventually drop most of its MKE flights, but even if that does happen this at least makes me more hopeful that DL would step in and fill the void.

I don't see what DL gains from fighting WN in MKE. They are already the legacy carrier of choice there and are drastically shrinking their regional fleet, which is what they would need to grow MKE. Filling voids - of which there are few so far - is a different matter.



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2738 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11731 times:

Quoting Daus (Reply 3):
Between this and the incredibly aggressive purchase of all Frontier Miles... Delta has to be thinking of doing something big in MKE.

Maybe not something big, but maybe something a bit more?


  


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10329 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11674 times:

Now they need to spend the bucks in SLC and change Energy Solutions Arena back to what it should be......the Delta Center.


They gave up the naming rights in 2005 or 2006 during BK, when the original contract expired. I'm thinking they thought renewing them was an unnecessary expense during BK.



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2348 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11638 times:

I think Delta sees an opportunity to firm up their strong FF base in Milwaukee and attract new business customers. DL already scores strong with businesses and with the demise of "The Hometown Airline" can keep the HVC from jumping completely to WN or elsewhere.I agree with this:

Quoting point2point (Reply 5):
Maybe not something big, but maybe something a bit more?

DL has the base to add some P2P they otherwise might not have considerered, or upgauge some of the aircraft to the hubs that are now regional jets. They have an advantage here and I am not surprised to see a little exploitation of that given the circumstances.


User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1172 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11610 times:

Big mistake was letting go of the Delta Center in SLC.
For some, it will always be the Delta Center. One can only
hope they fix that mistake. As far as MKE? I don't get it.


User currently offlinetoltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11606 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
They are already the legacy carrier of choice there and are drastically shrinking their regional fleet, which is what they would need to grow MKE.

Seems to me that MKE customers are used to the 717.... That plane may be a very good fit for growth at MKE.



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
I don't see what DL gains from fighting WN in MKE.

WN is perceived as the low cost carrier. They actually have some of the highest labor costs in the industry now. DL can take WN on easily.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22680 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11530 times:

Quoting toltommy (Reply 9):
They actually have some of the highest labor costs in the industry now. DL can take WN on easily.

But, alas, there's more to it than labor costs. What's DL's narrowbody or regional CASM compared with WN's CASM?



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11470 times:
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The way MKE is aggressively marketing itself as an alternative to ORD, DL may see opportunity to take some market share from the main players in the Chicago area.

If DL does indeed beef up its presence in MKE, what implications does that have for MSN?



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User currently offlinescutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11199 times:

If the Amtrak ever gets properly upgraded from MKE to Chicago (and theoretically Madison) then this gets more appealing, but that's pretty long term.

I would imagine a few 717s to places like BOS and PHL could be profitably filled... perhaps even west. there are business flyers loyal to Delta in MKE who would pay premiums for nonstops and who don't want to fly Southwest.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11156 times:
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Quoting scutfarcus (Reply 12):
If the Amtrak ever gets properly upgraded from MKE to Chicago (and theoretically Madison)

No chance of getting rail service to MSN under our current backward-thinking governor.

It would be interesting to see if MKE airfare would decrease with increased DL presence. I don't think it would take much for DL to cannibalize MSN traffic...if ticket prices out of MKE decrease, MSN travelers would stand to save hundreds for the trouble of driving 90 minutes to MKE.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1605 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11090 times:

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but it seems to me like this is two separate issues being merged together to create a bigger buzz than deserved. The article states that DL is "increasing its operations at Mitchell International Airport" and has "replaced some of the nonstop flights from Mitchell dropped in recent months by Frontier Airlines." To me, that just reads like positive spin on the fact that DL's LGA expansion resulted in DL taking on LGA-MKE as F9 was leaving the market.

The virtual disappearance of F9 certainly leaves some passengers up for grabs, and I would imagine DL sees that they are in a great position to capture a good chunk of those fliers if they take the opportunity to market their existing services. It's entirely possible that a stronger position for DL in MKE could result in a few additions at some point, but I don't think their choice to put some cash into naming rights is a direct indication that an MKE expansion is imminent.

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 8):

Big mistake was letting go of the Delta Center in SLC.
For some, it will always be the Delta Center. One can only
hope they fix that mistake. As far as MKE? I don't get it.

You could make the argument that as long as people call it the Delta Center anyway, DL can just save its money and still receive some of the same benefit.


User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1772 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11047 times:

I know I seem obsessed with this..... but maybe DL can bring back the MKE-OMA route F9 abandoned. Believe me, I'm not the only one that would welcome it back, being a child of two states (Nebraska and Wisconsin).

User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10958 times:

Delta really needs a MKE-SLC link, don't they? It just seems like such a big missing link for MKE

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2738 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10953 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 14):
The virtual disappearance of F9 certainly leaves some passengers up for grabs, and I would imagine DL sees that they are in a great position to capture a good chunk of those fliers if they take the opportunity to market their existing services.

I would think that as per elementary economics, that as fares increase (as they have been at MKE) then pax will decrease. Yes, MKE had a hey-day for a while with low airfares the last couple of years, and lots of pax, but now that airfares have gone up some, it seems that there is also about a 20% decrease with pax numbers, as per comparison of April 2011 to April 2012 numbers.

And with that, one has to wonder how many pax are really out there for anyone now at MKE, assuming that no carrier is really willing to lower fares as significantly and as drastically as happened a few years back? And while DL may very well want the premium pax and get them, the back seat pax volume most likely have vaporized along with the low fares.

 


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2348 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10845 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 16):
Delta really needs a MKE-SLC link, don't they? It just seems like such a big missing link for MKE

They have had it in the past using mostly CRJ 700s. It was off and on and when DL bought NW they put it back on for awhile, but it did not connect well. (At least not well for me.) then they dropped it.

I agree, it would be a great addition and would offer another alternative to the westcoast. The only issue is when you get to SLC your second hop will probably be a CRJ1/200 with no FC seating.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 10748 times:

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 18):
They have had it in the past using mostly CRJ 700s. It was off and on and when DL bought NW they put it back on for awhile, but it did not connect well. (At least not well for me.) then they dropped it.

That is deltas current problem at SLC and really the answer i guess. Not enough gates for anything larger than a CRJ-200 at the two prime bank times. Its unfortunately too long for deltas no first class distance limit. Delta has tried to jam some in but either they miss some connections or too long a layover is needed. I guess MKE was in that boat. Once the new terminals at SLC are built i expect cities like MKE, BDL, RDU, FLL to come back. All sustainable just cant justify the gate space and need to be perfectly timed to work out. Delta really has enough gates its just that need more mainline/larger RJ gates so their setup is inefficient and they have to choose the best routes for cities far away. Delta could offer this flight more in the middle of the day and would connect to cities like LAS, LAX, SFO, SEA but it would be a long layover to the smaller and unique markets and the timing would probably not ideal for business travelers.


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 10680 times:

Quoting Daus (Reply 3):
Delta has to be thinking of doing something big in MKE.

I don't think it's so much that as it is this:

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 7):
I think Delta sees an opportunity to firm up their strong FF base in Milwaukee and attract new business customers. DL already scores strong with businesses and with the demise of "The Hometown Airline" can keep the HVC from jumping completely to WN or elsewhere.
Quoting 2H4 (Reply 11):
If DL does indeed beef up its presence in MKE, what implications does that have for MSN?

Probably not much, really. MKE (for NW, and now DL) has grown and shrunk a few times, and MSN has been largely unaffected by it. That's not to say that there isn't bleed to MKE, ORD, or even RFD from Dane County; I'm just saying that historically, activity at MKE hasn't really affected MSN to too much of a degree.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 13):
No chance of getting rail service to MSN under our current backward-thinking governor.

Backward= understatement of the decade.

Quote:
It would be interesting to see if MKE airfare would decrease with increased DL presence. I don't think it would take much for DL to cannibalize MSN traffic...if ticket prices out of MKE decrease, MSN travelers would stand to save hundreds for the trouble of driving 90 minutes to MKE.

True, but I'm not sure how many people are willing to do that (see above). Keep in mind how huge Epic's traffic is for DL in MSN. MSN itself also has a relatively large catchment area that may to some degree offset traffic going to MKE.

On a (sort of) related note, the MSN airport's latest "stop the schlep" ad campaign is awful. JMHO...

Quoting steex (Reply 14):
but it seems to me like this is two separate issues being merged together to create a bigger buzz than deserved.

^This^

When the article noted that DL was "increasing it's operation," I took it to mean routes/upgauges already uploaded, as opposed to entirely new service/routes...



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 10640 times:

I think DLs only goal of MKE is to attract the former frontier fliers and anti southwest people out there. Its just easy pickings. Lets see how loyal and large a base of flyers they can pick up. I dont expect a big list of cities they will try or anything

I think its just easy pickings and delta is trying to grab some heavy elites and frequent fliers. Being the solid number two in town with elite benefits and first class might just seem like a good opportunity. Similar situation to MCI or RDU i guess


User currently offlineFSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 10000 times:

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 20):
True, but I'm not sure how many people are willing to do that (see above). Keep in mind how huge Epic's traffic is for DL in MSN.

   And that traffic is only going to go up for the foreseeable future. Epic went from 5000 to 6000 employees over the last year. I also hear that American Family Insurance sends a lot of employees through MSN.



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User currently offlineaa777lvr From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 9923 times:

NWAESC,

Wow, for once I think I we finally agree on something.

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 20):
On a (sort of) related note, the MSN airport's latest "stop the schlep" ad campaign is awful. JMHO...

Awful.

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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 9958 times:
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Quoting Daus (Reply 3):
Between this and the incredibly aggressive purchase of all Frontier Miles... Delta has to be thinking of doing something big in MKE.
Quoting point2point (Reply 5):
Maybe not something big, but maybe something a bit more?

LOL ... I tend to agree that when it comes to MKE aviation the "Big Days" are well behind us.

DL is already number 2 with respect to passenger numbers and flight numbers out of MKE (with a daily flight total in the 30+) range this summer. That may drop some this winter and ultimately I think the MEM flights will disappear. However, there's still room for some DL expansion to some of it's hubs (SLC as named above) as well as some point to point service on some key routes from MKE that may stick on the "DL Dart Board".


25 IllinoisMan : I'm sure the people of Salt Lake City would rather go to a Jazz game at the Delta Center than to an arena named for a toxic waste disposal company, a
26 Post contains images mariner : I hesitate to use the word collusion - which would be illegal - but I wonder how much Delta knew about Frontier's MKE plans and when they knew it. An
27 enilria : I think we know. I must say, I am very impressed with DL for this one. In the old days, DL/NW would have been in the middle of the war between YX/F9,
28 Post contains images mariner : Then I would ask - what was the quid pro quo? As to the naming rights, I do think it is a clever move. If nothing else, it stops it becoming the Sout
29 mayor : Not really.......the branding and such means alot, too..........people around town calling it the "Delta Center" will eventually fade away and some w
30 NWAESC : Lol. It was bound to happen at some point...
31 CIDFlyer : Wouldnt surprise me, NW used to have quite a good presence at MKE and now DL has inherited that. I could maybe see some point to point flights to majo
32 HermansCVR580 : Any word on if Delta is going to stay by themselves over on E or I know there had been some grumblings that they may move over to D if Frontier would
33 rj777 : I think United needs to make up their mind which concourse they want to be in. (C or E)
34 N62NA : First, I'm a bit surprised to see an A.net staffer inject politics into a thread that really doesn't have anything to do with politics: It just invite
35 jreuschl : For those taking the chance to rip on the Governor, I'll just point out that the stop for the train was not near the Madison airport.
36 Joeljack : Yes...that would be awesome!! I know of a few people that would love this!!!!
37 scutfarcus : That's right, it was downtown Madison, walking distance from both the Capitol and the University which is why it was so perfect as a feeder to MKE, a
38 Post contains images KDAYflyer : DL vs WN at MKE. Interesting fight nobody saw coming.
39 N62NA : Then your beef should be with Amtrak in Washington DC, no?
40 FWAERJ : When the POTUS doled out funds for high-speed rail, they went directly to the states. Since then, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Florida received new governors
41 N62NA : And - in a related matter - the NJ governor declined the Federal funds for another rail tunnel under the Hudson river. High speed rail makes no sense
42 NWAESC : There's nothing "great" about either of them (or Reince Priebus, for that matter)... +1
43 GSPSPOT : Didn't NW do pretty well with a ramped-up focus city operation at MKE a few years ago?[Edited 2012-08-16 13:12:45]
44 Cubsrule : The fact that they wound it down pretty quickly probably speaks to the results. IIRC, the last p2p route was LAS, and it ended in mid to late 2006.
45 Post contains images HermansCVR580 : I agree 100% I will save my rant for a different board Hopefully will see him in an orange jump suit soon. Some cities did ok, but this was when Midw
46 KGRB : MKE was always a huge North Central/Republic/Northwest city, going back long before YX started. As another user pointed out, NW's (now DL's) relation
47 TVNWZ : Delta had dropped to mostly CRJ 700s with just a couple of MD80s a couple of years before the merger To ATL. There was one CRJ700 flight to SLC and s
48 redzeppelin : Hard to believe that the (former) Delta Center is already 21 years old. It's now among the older NBA areans, but I still think of it as being one of
49 Post contains images mayor : Well, that IS what the logos are for, after all. I can't remember for sure, but I think the branding INSIDE the Delta Center was covered over during
50 enilria : Well, I think the quid pro quo was that Republic would have needed to surrender the slots. Am I correct that they simply rebranded them from F9 to DL
51 mariner : I'm not aware the the rules governing LGA slots are any more stringent that the rules governing DCA slots, especially AIR21. So even assuming stringe
52 Trucker : Scott Walker isn't the first governor to say "no way" to a Madison/Milwaukee railroad. Besides the huge inital cost it wouldn't pay it's own way and
53 NWAESC : Not when it becomes regressive, it isn't.
54 HermansCVR580 : I agree but I think officially SWA moves to C on November 4th. Maybe move everyone else to D and leave Delta at E?
55 9w748capt : Yeah I think that's to comply with IOC regulations - Vancouver "renamed' GM Place "Canada Hockey Place" for those two weeks. Outside probably doesn't
56 Beardown91737 : I don't see this as a Chicago's third airport move. There is just too much distance in betwee, but MKE can get leakage from Lake County and McHenry Co
57 HermansCVR580 : Wonder if Delta will bring the 757 back or if MKE will see an up tick in Delta 717 flights and less RJ traffic once they start to take deliveries of t
58 NWAESC : It does indeed, and is something others have mentioned DL using in places like RDU... Valid points. That said, people like to frame the train discuss
59 ScottB : Just because a stranger gives you candy doesn't mean you should take it. While the stimulus bill was handing out hundreds of billions of dollars borr
60 TVNWZ : Nice try. China invests in our securities because we buy their stuff. Dollars are converted into Yuan and then they invest in Tresuries to keep the Y
61 GSPSPOT : Hear, hear!! I'm generally in favor of HSR in targeted high-traffic areas and other infrastructure improvements, but I think a time will come when it
62 ScottB : ...or simply stop issuing a trillion or so in debt annually. Or accept that the goods and services middle-class Americans expect as part of their sta
63 Trucker : Mods are being very benevolent on this thread. High speed rail service only works between big enough cities. Madison doesn't begin to be a large enoug
64 Post contains images scutfarcus : Just to close the chatter on hsr - so it's completely clear - the proposed line was not a "Milwaukee to Madison" train. It was an extension of existin
65 Post contains images NWAESC : Yes they are. +1
66 AS739BSI : What I would be curious to know of is if O'Hare was a 30 minute train ride from MKE metro area, would we see even less demand at MKE? DL Is probably g
67 Cubsrule : The idea is certainly for DL to solidify its position in a market where it has traditionally been head and shoulders above the other legacies. For mu
68 FSDan : As is, MKE sees service to all DL hubs except for SLC. MEM is 2 x daily and CVG is 3 x daily, all on CRJs.
69 TVNWZ : And the low number of flights to MEM and CVG speaks more to those cities status than MKE. Both are shells of their former selves. There is even talk
70 NWAESC : Perhaps a real return to the Heartland Strategy? Wouldn't shock me... I'm kinda surprised MKE-CVG is still 3x...
71 scutfarcus : I would think a 717 to DCA and BOS would work very well without cannibalizing much for Delta. Relatively small plane, plenty of demand, different dema
72 peanuts : And this is a key difference between what we have in Europe and what some are attempting to emulate with their forward thinking governors in the US.
73 ScottB : I don't think the plan to reduce the CR2 fleet to ~ 125 aircraft is compatible with revisiting the Heartland Strategy; I'm not even sure the MEM &
74 Post contains links and images N62NA : I think it is because one of them injected politics into this thread, so they really can't "go back on that" so to speak, and the conversation has be
75 PIEAvantiP180 : I believe middle class America pays about 20% in taxes. I make less then 50k and I paid 27.3% before I did my taxes and a lil over 24% after I got so
76 peanuts : Well my friend, you may need a second opinion before you file, get better software or a decent accountant. Unless you are single, no mortgage, no kid
77 HermansCVR580 : I would also like to see Delta pick up some of these former Frontier routes and make them work. The 717 is a great aircraft and could do well on speci
78 2175301 : Not for someone who is single with few (if any) deductions. I too lived that life. Onto topic: While DL may seem to be expanding service into Milwauk
79 PIEAvantiP180 : I think it might have to do with about 20% of my yearly income is overtime and I'm sure overtime gets charged with a higher tax rate. I wish it wasn'
80 NWAESC : I get what you're saying, but the strategy wasn't so much to fly a CR2 into every city in the upper midwest; it was to solidifying market share and/o
81 Trucker : Both high speed and commuter rail work in Europe, Asia, and on the US east coast because you have alot of people within a certain area. Once you get
82 bobnwa : We are now at 81 replies about Delta planning a greater presence in the future at MKE. Other than a no comment by Delta there is not a single word fro
83 TVNWZ : No, it matters not how you make the money. Only thing that counts is what is on the W2 at the end of the year. My 25 year old son and 29 year old dau
84 mayor : Well, there was a statement on DeltaNet about the naming rights in MKE.
85 HermansCVR580 : MKE is an interesting airport in a sense. For years North Central and Republic were running 55-60 flights a day out of MKE, back then United and North
86 2175301 : For most working people in America that is true - the higher you move up in income, the more that increased income is taxed (by both the Federal Gove
87 bobnwa : You are right, DL did announce the naming of of the airline center,but what i am saying is Delta has never announced any new service out of MKE, yet
88 IllinoisMan : There's a question mark at the end of the title, meaning that the point of this thread was to discuss whether or not DL acquiring the naming rights t
89 PSU.DTW.SCE : Naming rights: - DL has changed is approach in recent years to naming rights. It has changed its advertising spend to focus more on specific demograph
90 mayor : I still maintain that the only reason that DL didn't keep the naming rights in SLC is because the original contract with Larry Miller was expiring at
91 Post contains images KGRB : Thanks, HermansCVR580 for keeping this discussion "on track" (pardon the pun). You have great knowledge of the airport's history. I did not know that
92 TVNWZ : I don't remember where all they flew from MKE, but my first flight ever was on a United DC8 to SFO. It was in a driving snowstorm and was a thrill fo
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