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Do You Recognize These 747?  
User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21292 times:

Dear, can you please help me to recognize which airlines were the owners of these early 70s-80s B747?

Thank you very lmuch.

Best regards    

the first 3 photos are from the same airliner, then the others are showing each time a different airliner.


















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User currently onlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21259 times:

Photo #4 looks like TW.

Photo #5 could be DL.

Photo's 1-3 look vaguely familiar but.....


User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21248 times:
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The green floor photo looks like the 747 prototype.

User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21052 times:

The last photo looks like the aft economy seating of Braniff's 747. The second and third photo look like they belong to the same airline, just with updated seating in the second picture.

[Edited 2012-08-15 14:27:18]

User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20846 times:

I have seen the first 3 photos before but can't for the life of me remember the carrier: perhaps JAL in the first one (but I can't tell you why I think that!)

The lounge with the green carpet is interesting because I flew on a BA 747 in 1978 SFO-LHR that had the same lounge furniture (the alternating direction sofa in the centre is a very vivid memory because I slept on 1 during the overnight flight, aged 6) but I can't say if the colour scheme or the fabrics are BA for sure: perhaps same layout, different finishes in BA service?


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1687 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20698 times:

I agree--the gold cabin looks like the aft cabin of "Fat Albert." Each cabin had a name--"The green room", "the red room" and the "gold room." First class had blue seats but we were forbidden to call it "The Blue Room" because that is airline slang for lavatory. All of B zone and the upper deck were lounge areas with a stand up bar in the center forward bulkhead of the cabin. Working that position was a real deal because (unbeknownst to BI) we would discreetly display a tip cup. It paid for the first round of drinks in HNL. They would have skinned us slowly if they had known.

There was also a small TC lounge for a brief time in D zone just forward of door 4L.



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2600 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20684 times:
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The second to last photo is a mock-up,
There are no oxygen drop-out panels, infact there are no sidewall panels at all - they look like singe-pieces whereas we all know airliner interiors are made of individual panels installed together... To say nothing of the furniture!

Even the earliest 747s had this sort of upper deck, which is nothing like the photo.

http://images60.fotki.com/v778/photos/2/211932/6090982/QANTAS747LOUNGE-vi.jpg

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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20669 times:

The last one's color palette seems to go in-line with PSA's.

Off topic, somewhat, but why don't most airlines go with colored/textured sidewalls anymore?



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20619 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):
Off topic, somewhat, but why don't most airlines go with colored/textured sidewalls anymore?

Cost and, lets be honest, if not tastefully done can look really gaudy/dated.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6368 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20474 times:
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The first three photos are the First Class, early Business class and Economy class of a JAL 747, according to the book

"Boeing 747", by Hiroshi Seo, which I happen to have. The book was published in 1984.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25696 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20336 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):
The last one's color palette seems to go in-line with PSA's.

But PSA didn't operate 747s, and their L-1011s were also a major mistake.

That also looks much like Wardair's interior with the colored wall panels (DC-10-30 below), but I'm quite sure that by the time Wardair put their first 747 into service (built for Braniff but not taken up), they were 10-abreast (3-4-3), not the early 9-abreast (3-4-2) economy configuration shown in that 747 photo.


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Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):
Off topic, somewhat, but why don't most airlines go with colored/textured sidewalls anymore?

With so many aircraft now leased, it's much easier to move the aircraft to a new operator when leases expire if the interior requires as few major changes as possible.


User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2084 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20076 times:

3rd to last pic is a Boeing mock-up.

User currently offlinejetdudetim From United States of America, joined May 2009, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 19862 times:

I think the picture that Crosswind has is of the proposed Alaska Airlines UD.

User currently offlinevhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19283 times:

Quoting jetdudetim (Reply 12):

That's Qantas.

Captain Cook Lounge I believe it was called



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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19222 times:

I almost want to say the last one is National Airlines. The Sun King airline  
Orange and yellow was their colors. But I remember their DC10s having green seats as well. Orange, Yellow and Green.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5875 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17605 times:

The last photo is, without a doubt, Braniff's orange room 747 cabin. I have a seat map somewhere... or you can head over to Braniffpages.com.

User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 17449 times:

Quoting vhqpa (Reply 13):
That's Qantas.

Captain Cook Lounge I believe it was called

You can see a portrait of James Cook in the back of the cabin. Those wooden sailship-style railings are funny in a 747. And the table-stands are modeled after sailship masts, the tables itself showing old maps.


User currently offlineAerosol From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16941 times:

It seems airlines were much more focussed on corporate identity and differentiation these days. It would be nice to have more marketing focussed airlines today...

User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 16858 times:

Quoting Aerosol (Reply 17):

It seems airlines were much more focussed on corporate identity and differentiation these days. It would be nice to have more marketing focussed airlines today...

Absolutely. It was great back then. But the beancounters ruling everywhere now are an apparently irreversable pain in the a...


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8437 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 16289 times:
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The first photo with the blue sleeper seats is probably Pan AM.

User currently onlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3326 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 16183 times:

Photo 6.

(Fashion note to self)
I still have a tank top similar to that woman,remember to throw it out !!!



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User currently offlinextra1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 111 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11585 times:

The 4th picture is the Aer Lingus 747 lounge (EI-ASJ) , circa 1975.

Here is a link for a brief video view of this lounge ( about 3.15 mins into this video)...and the general working interior of this vintage 747.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnzDFos6gR8


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9631 times:

I think that #5 is AA.

User currently onlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8964 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 22):
I think that #5 is AA.

I initially thought that this photo was TW but agree it could also be AA. The only issue I have with these two possibilities is the number of windows. This is clearly a 200 series or one of the fairly rare 100's with the extra windows. I can't think of any 200's that were operated by AA although TW did operate a few. The only carrier that I know for certain that had the extra windows on the 100's was UA and I'm about certain this isn't theirs. Not in their configuration anyway. There may well be others but I don't recall. With all of the varies leasing arrangements during this period I suppose there are any number of variables that would come into play.


User currently offlinequestions From Australia, joined Sep 2011, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8333 times:

Ahh, the days of 2-4-3 seating in the B747 and reasonable seat pitch!

25 FX1816 : Delta too had the extra windows on the top of their 100's. FX1816
26 Post contains links and images canoecarrier : I was just in that plane last month. The full length couch at the back is more of a tan/brown in the prototype. But, that photo above isn't all that
27 Polot : Looks roughly similar. I doubt the upholstery/carpeting is the same as it was 40 years ago, the carpet especially doesn't look that old.
28 Flaps : You are correct. The 747-132 came in both versions. ship 101 l/n 72 - 3 windows ship 102 l/n 82 - 3 windows ship 103 l/n 94 - 3 windows ship 104 l/n
29 Post contains links by738 : A nice video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pECyaYUUns&feature=related
30 canoecarrier : I'm pretty sure that's the original interior. Given the state of the rest of the plane I don't think Boeing changed much, if anything after they fini
31 DTWPurserBoy : Northwest Orient had their original 747-100's rerofitted with the extra upper deck windows. The two former National aircraft that NW bought (N620US a
32 DL_Mech : I think 5,6 and 7 are mockups. Five might be a real airplane, but those table legs do not look attached. Sixes' galley and sidewall next to the door
33 Viscount724 : No it's definitely not Pan Am. They didn't use that model of seat and the interior colors aren't Pan Am.
34 Post contains links and images DL_Mech : It does look like JAL seats and wallpaper: View Large View MediumPhoto © Lari-Pekka Kero[Edited 2012-08-17 19:52:39]
35 type-rated : You're right! That silver table is on casters! Maybe it was a fold up table that could be stowed and taken out when needed? But then again you really
36 Post contains images DID747 : Dear all, I thank you very much for your answers. After verifying in my archives, book and elsewhere, you are right; N°1, 2, 3 are Japan air Lines. N
37 Post contains links mayor : #5 is definitely not DL. DL's upper seating area was split, longitudally, with open seating on the right side and a private area (which could be booke
38 DL_Mech : deleted[Edited 2012-08-18 08:58:45]
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