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DEN To Announce Y4(?) Service  
User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2766 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6013 times:

Tomorrow, DEN officials will announce a new international airline.

Officials won't confirm the airline, but Y4 CEO Enrique Beltranena will be present, according to the press release.

Y4 won approval to begin MEX-DEN a couple of months ago.

Also, MEX-SFO was applied for as well, and approval granted at the same time as DEN as well for Y4.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...announce-new-international-airline

Another new low fare carrier arrives at DEN?

  



[Edited 2012-08-15 16:19:40]

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26147 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Yes Volaris applied for Denver service a couple months ago, and Denver has offered them a 2-year an incentive program as well to launch a year-round Mexico City link.

Volaris Applies For SFO And DEN Service (by LAXintl May 23 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

It seems to be LCC heaven i can see it working out. With the huge southwest operation at Denver it will has a great chance of working out.

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

With their codeshare agreement with Southwest, DEN makes a lot of sense considering Southwest's operations there. It makes you wonder what city (or cities) they may look to in the US for further expansion and cooperation with WN.

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2766 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
Yes Volaris applied for Denver service a couple months ago, and Denver has offered them a 2-year an incentive program as well to launch a year-round Mexico City link.

Thanks for that.... and it seemed my memory served me pretty well here without having to find this thread......

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 2):
It seems to be LCC heaven i can see it working out. With the huge southwest operation at Denver it will has a great chance of working out.
Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
DEN makes a lot of sense considering Southwest's operations there.

Hopefully yes...... and congrats to both DEN and Y4...... if this is going to be it..... strange that they wouldn't confirm the airline, but the CEO of the airline will be in attendance, eh?


  

[Edited 2012-08-15 17:13:53]

User currently offlineUNITED91 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5864 times:

This is great news for both DEN and Y4.

This will be better than the seasonal AM flight, with this being year round service.

Here's another link on the matter:

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/ne...is-to-fly-year-around-between.html

I'm loving the added international flights at DEN. First FI to KEF, then the announcement of UA to NRT, now Y4 to MEX. It has definitely been a good year for DEN.

[Edited 2012-08-15 16:53:41]

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5787 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
With their codeshare agreement with Southwest

That codeshare is completely worthless. Try buying a ticket on both carriers and you'll understand why.



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User currently offlinevatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1010 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5745 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
That codeshare is completely worthless. Try buying a ticket on both carriers and you'll understand why.

As soon as read "codeshare" I wondered how they (WN) could pull that off since they can't seem to figure out how to codeshare with FL over a year after the merger. So it doesn't surprise me that a "codeshare" with Y4 would be a challenge.



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User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2482 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Quoting vatveng (Reply 7):
As soon as read "codeshare" I wondered how they (WN) could pull that off since they can't seem to figure out how to codeshare with FL over a year after the merger. So it doesn't surprise me that a "codeshare" with Y4 would be a challenge.

WN needs a new reservation system in order to implement something that is worth calling a codeshare.


User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 955 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
That codeshare is completely worthless. Try buying a ticket on both carriers and you'll understand why.

Real difficult.....

http://gyazo.com/c685905abebca168cab4d4614eba344c


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3047 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Volaris starts MEX-DEN December 8, 2012 operating 2x weekly.

Y4 982 MEX 12:15pm- 3:05pm DEN ( Saturday, Sunday)
Y4 983 DEN 4:25pm- 9:00pm MEX (Saturday, Sunday)


User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2482 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 9):
Real difficult.....

They can't do virtual nesting with their current reservation system. It just brings the best available rate at the time of booking for each segment and adds them up to give you the final price.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 9):
Real difficult.....

http://gyazo.com/c685905abebca168cab...a344c

$838 for one of the worst MEXNYC routings money can buy. And you only have to checkin twice and keep track of two tickets. What a deal! Or you can fly nonstop for $300 less 



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2835 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
With their codeshare agreement with Southwest, DEN makes a lot of sense considering Southwest's operations there. It makes you wonder what city (or cities) they may look to in the US for further expansion and cooperation with WN.

PHX? LAS? HOU? MDW?

Quoting vatveng (Reply 7):
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
That codeshare is completely worthless. Try buying a ticket on both carriers and you'll understand why.

As soon as read "codeshare" I wondered how they (WN) could pull that off since they can't seem to figure out how to codeshare with FL over a year after the merger. So it doesn't surprise me that a "codeshare" with Y4 would be a challenge.

How successful was the WN codeshare with ATA six or so years ago?



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2766 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 10):
Volaris starts MEX-DEN December 8, 2012 operating 2x weekly.

Y4 982 MEX 12:15pm- 3:05pm DEN ( Saturday, Sunday)
Y4 983 DEN 4:25pm- 9:00pm MEX (Saturday, Sunday)

Hmmmmmm...

2x weekly, and on the weekends yet?

I guess that they're pretty much going for the leisure crowd, I don't know Y4 well enough to know if they go after a lot of the business crowd or not, but this scheduling certainly looks as if they don't....?

And with UA and AM still in the picture, even with their less than weekly, erratic seasonal schedules, I guess DEN-MEX will have n/s service for the most part.

MX did a daily, just-about-every-day-of-the-year flight for about 10+ years here and I guess found a way to make this route work. And prior to the swine flu epidemic, and I guess when oil was cheap, they did so with probably a load factor of about 60%-70%, which today just wouldn't cut the mustard, eh?

At any rate, it's good that DEN gets a new international carrier, and all the best to Y4 in making this route work. And maybe someday soon, DEN-MEX can actually have enough pax (that also pay enough) to have a bit more in consistency of service.....


 


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