DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16814 posts, RR: 57 Reply 1, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2782 times:
Quoting KDAYflyer (Thread starter): Looks like it's leaning to the MAX since they are a current 737 operator.
It seems like it. Of course they have to check out the competition and they will take an Airbus offer if it's good enough, but I agree that this is Boeing's order to lose.
osiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3182 posts, RR: 26 Reply 4, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2658 times:
Quoting KDAYflyer (Reply 3):
Makes me wonder why they even asked Airbus to talk with them about it.
To get a sweeter deal out of Airbus by saying that.. and then to let Boeing know that's what's happening by saying this in the press... quite clever really.
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16814 posts, RR: 57 Reply 7, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2159 times:
Quoting osiris30 (Reply 4): To get a sweeter deal out of Airbus by saying that.. and then to let Boeing know that's what's happening by saying this in the press... quite clever really.
Or to get a letter from Airbus thanking them for their RFP and saying that they are not interested. I wonder how much it costs Airbus to respond to the RFP?
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2159 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2051 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7): Or to get a letter from Airbus thanking them for their RFP and saying that they are not interested. I wonder how much it costs Airbus to respond to the RFP
I would expect that Boeing offering a real good sale price to ET for MAX jets, given the substantial 787 delays
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However, they have ordered 12x A350s so that should be the first Airbus in ET fleet.
AIrbus has approached ET many times before and I expect them to continue to do so in the future. ET is not big but I would not think either OEM is going to ignore them, especially if their plan of being the largest carrier in Africa do pan out. And that doesn't even include their plans to create regional carriers throughout Africa, which should give the ET group a similar footprint as a LAN in Latin America, for instance.
The CEO's words, I am pretty sure, are not intended to put Boeing on notice. ET (and in fact Ethiopia) is FULL of Boeing fanboys and fangirls so his point should really be taken at face value. MAX has the advantage but NEO will be looked at, nothing more, nothing less. ET is very loyal to Boeing, and that is probably an understatement.
So how did they order the A350s? I don't have insider info but my guess is that:
1) they liked the specs AND
2) Airbus put forth an offer ET couldn't refuse
KDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1623 times:
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 9): ET is not big but I would not think either OEM is going to ignore them, especially if their plan of being the largest carrier in Africa do pan out
Absolutely. I think that if they grow according to the plan, you will see frequesnt visitors from both manufacturers as well as our Canadian and Brazilian friends.
ETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 620 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 858 times:
Quoting SQ22 (Reply 13): According to this source the A350 order was designed to be (also) a wake-up call that they can order aircrafts somewhere else.
Not sure, perhaps Boeing did take ET for granted, I don't know. Certainly, ET like all other 787 customers was not happy with the many delays.
The argument went that ET is now big enough where it could justify planes from different vendors. This happened under the previous CEO; I think he was the only who could have made that happen as he was the architect of the new surge by ET starting in the early 2000s.
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