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Which Is The Best And Worst Latin American Airport  
User currently offlineTOMASKEMPNER From Mexico, joined May 2001, 389 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

I want to know which is it. Also which is the busiest ?

Someone told me that the best one is GIG in Rio, and that the busiest is Juarez Intl. in MEX.

I do beleive that the busiest is GRU in Sao Paulo.

I´ll appreciate any kind of data.

Also what do you think about the proposals of the new Mexico City airport ?

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User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1945 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

Hi:

The best latin american airport are Rio de Janeiro(GIG), Sao Paulo(GRU), Santiago de Chile (SCL) and Mexico City(MEX).
The worst are Caracas(CCS), Quito(UIO), Guayaquil(GYE), La Paz (LPZ). Current days Lima's International airport is a ancient terminal but with the new concession Lima Airport Partners Lima will be a excellent terminal, perfect for a Latin America Hub (visit my topic on airliners.net civil discussion forum:¿ Lima a Latin america Hub?).

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2737 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4356 times:

The busiest one is MEX with 21.5 million people. Nevertheless, Sao Paulo's 3 airports combined handle more traffic than MEX alone. As far as the best one. I don't know. However, maybe it might be Santiago's Arturo Menitez because it's such a new airport.

What are the proposals for the new Mexico City airport? Last I heard 3 locations where bidding for the spot.

 Smile LatinPlane




User currently offlineUa865 From El Salvador, joined May 2000, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

San Salvador, El Salvador(SAL) is by far the nicest airport in central america. Altough it does not handle as much traffic as other airports in south america, it can be compared in terms of facilities to the big boys down in south america.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39918 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4343 times:

Best:
Would be Jose Marti in Havana, Cuba.
It is unofficial airplane museum. You have western & Soviet aircraft of yesterday and today still in operation.
Great for spotting and 'true' aviation enthusiest can appretiate the variety if aircraft.

Worst:
Cancun, Mexico. Everyone is trying to rip you off!




Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4321 times:

I think if you are Visiting or have a Conecting flight in MEX in the next 5, 6, years would be the worst!!! Why?? because that airport it´s getting really bussy!!! and can´t handle more operations.. that´s my opinion..

my 2 cents!



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4322 times:

HI,

For me personally the airport in Bogota Colombia is the best airport in South America. In the old days you had to walk with your baggage to the airplane! These days the airport has exellent terminals!!
I always love to return to Colombia for vacation from the Netherlands where I life today. Other airports like Cali, Medellin, Cartagena, Santa marta, Villaviciencio and Manizales are also good!!

In general I really don't now who is the best?!?!?
Rio de Janeiro(GIG), Sao Paulo(GRU), Santiago de Chile (SCL), Mexico City(MEX). I've never been there, only see some pictures or tv shots!

The best airport is the airport who gives you the best services and facilities!! Caracas(CCS), isn't that bad when you have full sight on the main runway from the terminal. For that it's a beautiful airport. Quito(UIO), Guayaquil(GYE), La Paz (LPZ) are not the best Airports in South America, but these airports are located in country's where there isn't a good econmy to build on.

I think that the main airports in Latin America are close to airports in the USA, Europe ans Asia!! They aren't that bad as in the old days!!!

Saludos and greetings
W.A. now @ AMS, but within 3 weeks soon to be seen @ BOGOTA ELDORADO INTERNATIONAL (BOG/SKBO)  Big thumbs up



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6225 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

I think SJU isn't that bad of an airport its comparable to any airport in the US . Plus its airconditioned and I would say one of the best airports in the Caribbean. Like someone said before one of the worst Latin American airports most be CUN - hot, crowded and confusing.
Chepos
Puerto Rico



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

The 2 best airports in South America that I've been to are Bogota and Santiago. The international terminal in Santiago is one of the most beautiful terminals there is. The Andes are right in the background. With Bogota, the only thing that I don't like is that the international terminal and the domestic terminal for Avianca flights(Aeropuente) are so far away from each other. I like the displays of gold artifacts in the corridor when you are getting off an international flight going to immigration. Also there's a nice are on the second floor to watch aircraft. Also now that Buenos Aires-EZE has a new terminal it's pretty nice too. Before I really hated it.

The airports that I didn't really like are Lima, Sao Paulo-GRU, and Quito (but the flying into Quito is incredible). GRU I think is really ugly and clearing customs in GRU takes forever, especially in the morning when the all the international flight from the USA, Asia, and Europe arrive. As mentioned Lima should be really nice in a few years.

In October I'll be going to Rio de Janerio-GIG for the first time, so I'll post my observations.

Wimpycol-
I like the airport in Cartagena too. The one in Villavicencio I don't think it's so great. At least they have a baggage belt there now. Also I like the airport in Barranquilla.


User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

Mexico City's Benito Juarez International IS the busiest airport in Latin America, both in terms of anual passengers and aircraft operations.

The site for the new MEX will be either Tizayuca, Hidalgo, or Texcoco, Estado de México.

The federal government is just some days away from deciding which of the 2 locations is the best for the construction of the new airport. The two states involved want the airport really bad, but only one will get it, only one will be the "winner".

Construction should begin immediately after the final decision is made, otherwise the actual airport will eventually get too congested, too crowded, too inefficient, to the point of becoming a disaster in a matter of 4 or 5 years.

By the way, a new "mini-terminal" is being completed in the current airport, with about 8 new gates.

Regards,
Bernardo Curiel
Mexico City, Mexico



"... for there you have been and there you will long to return."
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Regarding the new Mexico City airport there was a study by UNAM scientists that considered Texcoco and Tizayuca in the same level, both have approximately the same pros and cons. Anyway, MEX will be around for a long time, they are building a new parking lot these days and the so called New International Terminal(which is not that good)wasn't for free. Considering that I don't think Texcoco will make it as it would put MEX out of service. Also remember that things tend to move real slowly when the Mexican government takes part, this very topic has been around since the 70's at least. I won't believe a word until they actually begin building the new airport.

Bernardo:
Is the "mini-terminal" a building with jetways or just remote positions?

Did you all know that MEX's official name is not Benito Juarez? That was an idea that came up during President Echeverría's term, but it is not stated in any official record nor the airport itself. It is just "Mexico City International Airport".



User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

Hi AirafriqueDKR,

Yes I also like very much the displays of gold artefacts in the corridor when you are getting off an international flight going to immigration. I really love to see this!! For me personally looking at the historical gold artefacts just arriving from a transatlantic flight from Europe or the States, gives me the feeling that I'm back home again!! Before that it was really sad to arrive in Bogota.

Also I like Bogota El Dorado for their beautiful tax free shops when you will leave the country and at the last shop always drink some good old COLOMBIAN Coffee!! The best coffee in the world. Drinking that, it will give you a good return flight!!!

About Puente Aero!! The domestic terminals of Avianca, I agree that it is a little bit too far (especially when you must get a domestic flight), but on the other hand when you travel to it from El Dorado you have a great view on old, VERY old planes from different airlines of Colombia. To see these old birds it gives you a special feeling. At the second level of El Dorado you now also clearly can see the first part of all the landing aircraft on the new (second) runway!!!. But for spotters it's difficult to spot @ BOG El Dorado comparing to AMS Schiphol.

Cali also has a good airport but its about 8 miles out of the heart of Cali. Villaviciencio isn't that great but you can see a lot of old birds here!!!!

What I like from Colombian airports and other Latin airports. They aren't HUGE like in AMS, FRA CDG JFK etc!! and the service is much more friendlier. Only take a look @ those Colombian women’s makes your hart go BOOM!!!! Love  Love  Love  Love  Love  Love
God!! I wish that I was in Colombia at this particularly moment!!!!
Well within two weeks no more AMS but BOG and some other airports in Colombia!!

AirafriqueDKR, did you visit Colombia on Avianca for visiting family or as a tourist?

Saludos/Greetings
Wimpycol soon to be seen @ BOG Yawn



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

Wimpycol-

I usually go to Colombia 4-5 times a year to visit family in Villavicencio. I used to fly always with AA through Miamia. But now most of the times I use Avianca or Continental from New York. I prefer Avianca because their flight arrives early around 2pm in Bogota and then I can make a same day connection to Villavicencio with Aires. With Continental or American (via Miami), the flights arrive around 8 or 9 pm and the last Aires flight from Bogota to Villavicencio is at 4pm. I just wish Avianca or Aces someday would start flights to Villavicencio. Also I go to Cartagena a lot, just for vacation.

Do you know why Avianca switched their domestic flights to Puente Aereo? Before they used Puente Aereo only for flights to New York and Miami, and the domestic flights were at the main terminal at El Dorado.

I wish I was in Colombia at the moment too. I know what you mean.


User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

AirafriqueDKR:

I wish I could visit Colombia also 4/5 times a year!!!! What a good live that you have!!!!!!!!
I only can visit Colombia once a year!! Flights from Europe (the Netherlands) to Colombia are expensive, especially for students!! These day in US dollars for about $700 in economy.
Can't travel Avianca anymore Crying !!! They've got a lot problems @ the moment and they are more expensive than ever!! That's very sad.

Do you know why Avianca switched their domestic flights to Puente Aereo? Before they used Puente Aereo only for flights to New York and Miami, and the domestic flights were at the main terminal at El Dorado.

I don't know exactly but when they finish the international terminal in mid 90's all international flights went to the main terminal.
Well I must say when I arrived in 96 on an Avianca 762 from FRA, we went to Puento Aereo. For me a big surprise!!!!! and for my family IN Colombia too (they where waiting for me @ El Dorado). Since then always arrived @ El Dorado!!
Security is the main issue for the switch! Now everything is at one place at the time. Less expensive. Imagine that you must build all the extra service @ Puento Aereo like El Dorado.

By the way how is AIRES?? I Only flew Avianca and SAM Colombia in the past
I will go to Colombia next month, maybe I will see you @ Villaviciencio. I think to go by bus from Bogotá, but the guerrilla is a big problem.
Did your hear the last news of the merger between Avianca and ACES. Maybe a new future Colombian airline? I hope so!! One with a good future.

Saludos
Wimpycol!



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1945 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

Wimpycol and AirafriqueDKR:

Bogotá El Dorado is a great airport, two concourses and small terminal for Avianca called Puente Aereo, and has two runways. Great airport! But El Dorado Intl. fails in one think the international connection aisle. I was there in July of 1999 arriving from Santiago, Chile in Avianca flight and I must connect with by new Avianca flight to Caracas. The connection was very slow by the reason of the smallest connection aisle on International Concourse.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

AM744

The new 8 gates will be jetways... AFAIK they would have capacity also for B744s, that 8 gates I think they´ll help a bit.. but just for a short time... cause the problems of incapacity will continue..




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Thanks. Those jetways will be of great help, specially around 6pm when you can see all the European heavies(and JAL's 747 certain days) at the same time.

As of the best airport I don't know but it has to be in Brazil, until the new Mexico City airport is build. If ever...


User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

HI RJ_Delta

Thanks for the nice words about Bogota El Dorado Intl.
I agree with you that El Dorado Intl. fails on the international connection aisle.
I personally don't have to complain about this, I've never had a connection flight the same day!!

I think that the new terminal wasn't build for that at the time. Also Avianca helped a lot to offer low fares from Europe and the USA via BOG to other cities in Latin America. So numbers of passengers grew since then for the international connections aisle. That's why there are some days that the international connection aisle can be slow at special hours with lots of flights at the same time.
With the second runway El dorado has now more opportunities in the north of South America to became a good hub (I hope so!!)

I assume that you're from Chile!
How about the international airport in Santiago de Chile? Do you have some web-sites about it?
Lan Chile is running very well the last years now. The management is in good hands now!
Comparing to Avianca, Avianca is going to deep trouble now if they don't work more efficient. For me this is very sad. I love Avianca! Over the last 10 years now, flew with them from Europe to Colombia. This year I must go with Iberia because of the extremely high fares of Avianca. What a shame, because Avianca have good service on their 767’s, business and economy.

How about Lan Chile A340's? They must have good/excellent service to several cities in Latin America. Will they fly also to BOG in the near future with A340's or only with their 763?
I wish that Avianca has such a good results as Lan Chile have these days, but the war in Colombia stops Avianca to grow. Really, really sad.

Well saludos,
Wimpycol now @ AMS but next month @ BOG Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4228 times:

Hi Wimpycol:

The service on AIRES is good. I've never had any problems when I've flown them. The flight from Bogota to Villavicencio is about 25 minutes. During the flight they serve either Coca Cola, water, or coffee and a roll with ham and cheese. They are usually on time and they have never lost any baggage that I've had. I much rather prefer to fly to Villavicencio than take the bus but sometimes I have no choice. I've taken the bus before and I don't really like it. It's too long and sometimes the altitude makes me feel bad. Sometimes the road from Bogota to Villavicencio closes because rocks from the mountains are falling.

The fares from New York to Bogota on Avianca are expensive too but they are usually the same as Continental and American. Usually they are between $500-$600. You probably know that New York/New Jersey has a huge Colombian population so you can usually find good deals from the Colombian travel agencies in the area. I've seen at times when Avianca's fare to Caracas is about half the price of the fare to Bogota.

I've read about the possible merger of Avianca and Aces in El Tiempo and other Colombian newspapers. I'm hoping something good will come out of it and that Avianca won't die.

By the way, Lan Chile will be using the A340 on their flight from Santiago to Lima/Bogota/Miami (only northbound), starting at the end of October.

I'm not sure if I'll be in Colombia next month, if I am I'll send you an e-mail.


User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

One of the best..SCL

One of the worst.AEP (Jorge Newberry in B.A.)...very short runway. seems to be a tricky approach also.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

I think a hard Approach is in MGGT (Guatemala) Also the runway it´s relly strange...


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