speedbrds From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 23002 times:
While reading an article on the Daily Mail, it states:
"Researchers may have come one step closer toward solving the mystery of Amelia Earhart’s disappearance after announcing the discovery of what could be remnants of the famed aviator’s plane.
The debris located off Nikumaroro island in the southwestern Pacific republic of Kiribati was spotted following a preliminary review of high-definition video taken last month at the uninhabited coral atoll believed to be Earhart's final resting place.
The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) got the underwater search under way on July 12 in hopes of determining what exactly happened to Earhart on her last fateful flight 75 years ago."
Then again, it's the Daily Mail. Most information they provide should be taken with a grain of salt. If true, this would be a big breakthrough in the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Amelia Earheart.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 22763 times:
Well, the title of this thread is a bit misleading.
That said, I hope that in my lifetime, Earhart's plane isn't discovered. Some things are just better left as legends rather than facts, and where ever Earhart rests, she rests in peace. Hate to see that disturbed after so many decades. Pulling up her remains or her plane now won't add anything to aviation safety at this point.
Agreed, by adding a ? to the title, it is no longer a statement, and rather an unanswered question. As there is still no concrete findings yet, it is therefore nothing more than speculation, there have been many things that were thought to be real and turned out a bust. Remember Geraldo and the Jimmy Hoffa safe? Just sayin.....
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koruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21876 times:
Tighar unfortunately is an organisation which is notorious for its baseless belief that Earhart crashed on or near Nikumaroro.
I've never seen a shred of contemporary evidence to support that assertion. Considering that she was flying to Howland Island and was heard by the Itaska on final approach into Howland Island but unable to find it (the atoll is never more than 12 inches above sea level), it is surely more likely that she ran out of fuel and crashed near Howland Island.
Quite how or why she might instead have flown 2.5 hours further in radio silence to crash on or near Nikumaroro defeats me. She is more likely to have become Irene Craigmile Bolam!
bueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 754 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 16514 times:
Quoting doulasc (Reply 14):
Did planes have black boxes back then. I realize chances of finding any parts of her plane intact are not even slim. They might find a engine or a tail of the Electra.
No. Flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders were only introduced to airliners much later, and even had they been in common use at the time it would be unlikely that Earhart's Electra would be fitted with one. In any case, the older style recorders - magnetic tape recorders vs the solid state types we have today - hold up much worse over time, especially under water, so it would be practically impossible to retrieve any data from them were they found now (again, imagining that they were fitted.)
antidote From Canada, joined Jun 2010, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15547 times:
Quoting koruman (Reply 7): Quite how or why she might instead have flown 2.5 hours further in radio silence to crash on or near Nikumaroro defeats me. She is more likely to have become Irene Craigmile Bolam!
Well, that was an entertaining Sunday morning read, thank you. I'd never heard the Bolam story before but it's no worse than several other explanations. It's quite amazing that the level of interest in Earhart's disappearance remains so high after 75 years.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 14982 times:
Quoting koruman (Reply 7): Quite how or why she might instead have flown 2.5 hours further in radio silence to crash on or near Nikumaroro defeats me.
I don't believe that she flew an additional 2.5 hours after making turn to fly a 337/157 search line.
Rather that Noonan made an error in his navigation and the plane was not near Howland.
One thing which always bothered me about the story is the assumption that because some signals were loud and clear to the Itasca that Earhart was close to the ship. Because several other radio transmissions were weak. That sounds a lot more like a transmitter located far away from the receiver - the Itasca - and getting some atmospheric skip.
I personally doubt that Earhart was near any island, and they flew the 337/157 line until their fuel exhausted and they went down in the ocean. Likely in water over three miles deep.
Tbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11609 times:
Good grief! This "story" pops up every few years. How improbable? Just close your eyes and try to imagine how much junk is in and around that area, wherever that area might be. The general consensus is somewhere in the south Pacific. Look at a globe. It is huge!! I am not buying the alien abduction theory.
parapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1909 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4971 times:
The debris located off Nikumaroro island
If the theory is that they crash landed on this island and lived there a while - and - this British ship went to the same island only a little later.Clearly (if we believe this photo,the they were landing on the island at the exact same spot as these 2 were living at the time (with makeup et al). I would have thought that Amelia might have walked up to the expedition and said "hello" no?
The fact that this expedition found nothing (so soon after they crashed) only proves that they did not land there - rather than they did- I would have thought.
richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4427 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4440 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1): That said, I hope that in my lifetime, Earhart's plane isn't discovered. Some things are just better left as legends rather than facts, and where ever Earhart rests, she rests in peace. Hate to see that disturbed after so many decades. Pulling up her remains or her plane now won't add anything to aviation safety at this point.
Interesting point of view, although I don't actually agree.
While part of me would not want Earhart's grave disturbed, I think solving one of aviation's biggest mysteries would be amazing! With every passing year, the chances of finding remnants of the Electra get slimmer and slimmer, despite the fact that the technology gets better and better. But I really have little confidence that her aircraft (never mind remains) will ever be conclusively located - the five Avengers of Flight 19 that went missing in 1945 have never been found and they were lost somewhere off the coast of Florida! More recently, it took months to find the wreckage belonging to Steve Fossett, and that was on land, so searching the depths of the Pacific Ocean is unlikely to turn up any solid trace of Earhart unless somebody gets very lucky. Or she really was captured by the Japanese and somebody uncovers evidence of such.
Quoting breiz (Reply 10): How many ac crashed in the Pacific Ocean during the WWII?
The debris can be just anything.
Completely agree... I don't know the specific history of the Nikumaroro Island but being in the South Pacific it probably saw some WW2 action. The debris that was located in the reef might very well turn out to be a plane but I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be Earhart's Electra!
I remember watching an episode of 'Unsolved Mysteries' many years ago, during the Robert Stack-hosted era, and one of them covered Amelia Earhart and "eyewitnesses" who watched her execution and burning of her aircraft. Somebody even wrote down serial numbers of a part or two that supposedly came from her plane - I'm guessing nothing ever came of this and the story was completely made up?! It did seem too good to be true!
Quoting Rwy04LGA (Reply 22): OMG, what a waste of time it was watching that. From that point on, I refused to watch ANYTHING that had that idiot Geraldo on it. PS It wasn't Hoffa's safe, it was Capone's EMPTY safe.
Ha, apparently RWA380 doesn't remember it that well!!