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Unarmed Man Takes Over Cockpit Of AA Eagle Jet  
User currently offlineskycub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18777 times:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Man-t...r-cockpit-of-plane--167085805.html

"DALLAS - An unarmed man has taken over the cockpit of an empty American Eagle plane at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport, authorities said.

The plane was part of Flight 2795, which was scheduled to leave Baton Rouge bound to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. The flight was canceled.

The plane is currently on the ground and authorities are attempting to get the man to come out."

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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18701 times:

Quoting skycub (Thread starter):
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Man-t...r-cockpit-of-plane--167085805.html

"DALLAS - An unarmed man has taken over the cockpit of an empty American Eagle plane at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport, authorities said.

The plane was part of Flight 2795, which was scheduled to leave Baton Rouge bound to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. The flight was canceled.

The plane is currently on the ground and authorities are attempting to get the man to come out."

These hijackers are getting more and more creative. What is this guy trying to accomplish? Take a nap in the cockpit until the SWAT Team gets him out?

[Edited 2012-08-22 14:02:15]

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19551 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18391 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 1):

These hijackers are getting more and more creative. What is this guy trying to accomplish? Take a nap in the cockpit until the SWAT Team gets him out?

My guess is that it will turn out that he is either disturbed or mentally disabled. It will be interesting to learn how he accessed the tarmac and made it onto an empty aircraft.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6184 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18239 times:
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I´m sure that unless he figures out how to turn on the APU (if that plane has one) he must not be too comfy inside. Middle of the afternoon in Lousiana in August is just not my kind of weather.


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User currently offlineAviRaider From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18230 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
My guess is that it will turn out that he is either disturbed or mentally disabled. It will be interesting to learn how he accessed the tarmac and made it onto an empty aircraft.

Maybe his jetski broke down.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18150 times:

He pushed his way past the gate agent and ran down the jetbridge, then locked himself inside the cockpit. Don't know why the cockpit door was even open though, we have a policy that we lock the cockpit door if there aren't any crewmembers around.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18030 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
My guess is that it will turn out that he is either disturbed or mentally disabled. It will be interesting to learn how he accessed the tarmac and made it onto an empty aircraft.

You're right about the disturbia.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17969 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 1):
These hijackers are getting more and more creative. What is this guy trying to accomplish? Take a nap in the cockpit until the SWAT Team gets him out?

Yeah i think it's more of another disgruntled employee.

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
My guess is that it will turn out that he is either disturbed or mentally disabled. It will be interesting to learn how he accessed the tarmac and made it onto an empty aircraft.

You're right about the disturbia.

Recall the OO plane a few weeks back- was that w/o?



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6012 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17855 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
My guess is that it will turn out that he is either disturbed or mentally disabled. It will be interesting to learn how he accessed the tarmac and made it onto an empty aircraft.

You're right about the disturbia.

Recall the OO plane a few weeks back- was that w/o?

Except he was already qualified on the plane, and had a military background.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17635 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 8):
Except he was already qualified on the plane, and had a military background.

oh in this case the guy wasn't, eh?

Looks like he surrendered.

Good job for law enforcement cutting the engine power before he could do anything reckless



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17243 times:

You don't need ground power to start a plane. You do need to know how do it though...


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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 16621 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10):
You do need to know how do it though...

What if potential [insert various forms of wrongdoers] figure out how to start the aircraft? Would it be hard for Boeing, Airbus, etc., to add a security device that requires crew input to begin startup procedures?

Right now it seems like the only things in the way of a hijacking/takeover are purely mechanical.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5595 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14160 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 11):

Right now it seems like the only things in the way of a hijacking/takeover are purely mechanical.

And that's how you'd stop it:

Throw crap into the engines.



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User currently offlineUnited727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14093 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 12):
And that's how you'd stop it:

Throw crap into the engines.

Huh?? Destroy perfectly good turbines??? :O

I was under the impression that EFIS/FDC entries were required on most modern jetliners to begin a start sequence!?!? Correct?



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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13891 times:

Quoting United727 (Reply 13):

what makes you think they couldnt get any password that would be needed to start? the only thing you can do is physically take out the possibility



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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13786 times:

Quoting United727 (Reply 13):

All you need is electricity and air. The Embraer is incredibly easy to start because it's all electronic. All you need is APU bleed air and to select the start/stop selector to start momentarily, the computers take care of the rest.


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6012 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13694 times:

Quoting United727 (Reply 13):
I was under the impression that EFIS/FDC entries were required on most modern jetliners to begin a start sequence!?!? Correct?

The ACARS is down? Nooo!!!! No I can't go anywhere!

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 15):
The Embraer is incredibly easy to start because it's all electronic.

Unless it's the 120, then you just need electricity.  



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19551 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13583 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 11):
What if potential [insert various forms of wrongdoers] figure out how to start the aircraft? Would it be hard for Boeing, Airbus, etc., to add a security device that requires crew input to begin startup procedures?

What are they going to do with it then? An aircraft theft at a commercial airport isn't a subtle thing. Someone is going to notice that a plane that ought not to be moving is moving really quickly. If not the ground crew, then Tower. How long would it take to scramble a few fire trucks to block the entrance to the runway?

Failing that, AF jets could be scrambled very quickly to shoot it down. They're touchy about that sort of thing.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13536 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 16):
Unless it's the 120, then you just need electricity

Haha Touche.  


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5595 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12840 times:

Quoting United727 (Reply 13):

I was under the impression that EFIS/FDC entries were required on most modern jetliners to begin a start sequence!?!? Correct?

Nope. APU and bleed air, that's it.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
How long would it take to scramble a few fire trucks to block the entrance to the runway?

Longer than it would take for the plane to take off if it was only noticed when the plane was moving.

It takes less than 5 minutes to start up both engines on an airplane.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):

Failing that, AF jets could be scrambled very quickly to shoot it down. They're touchy about that sort of thing.

Depending on the airport, it could take an hour for fighters to arrive. BTR.... maybe 10-15 minutes. In major metro airports, you could do your damage before the fighters are in the air.



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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12615 times:

This guy clearly just wanted an all expenses paid trip to Cuba.
I hear there's a nice resort there, right on a bay at the southern end...



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12242 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12509 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
How long would it take to scramble a few fire trucks to block the entrance to the runway?

Not long, but when you think about it...you're supposed to take off on a runway, doesn't mean it's the only place it's possible. Somebody wants to get airborne bad enough, they'll do it



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User currently offlineChazPilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12149 times:

"The plane is currently on the ground and authorities are attempting to get the man to come out."

Is it Tom Cruise?


User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11328 times:

"The plane is currently on the ground and authorities are attempting to get the man to come out."

All this security theatre in the US trying to prevent terrorism and then someone finally makes it into a situation where they could do real harm and all they do is "attempt to get him out"? How, exactly, where they doing that?


User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1248 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8611 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 21):

If he wanted to go to Guantanamo I think he will be disappointed and rather find himself from some mental hospital.

Though there are couple of really nice touristy beach resorts in Cuba, maybe he wanted to fly to one of them?



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25 ikramerica : Probably just missed the bus to Louton.
26 Post contains images N14AZ : What's the current status? Heck, if it would have been a B 707 or a DC 8, I would understand that man, but an EMB???
27 Post contains images par13del : A perfect example to congress why the funding of the TSA needs to be increased, the holes that lack of funding has created is publicy exposed, shame o
28 wingnutmn : Aren't the doors to the jetway suppose to be closed and locked until the flight crew says they are ready to board? I know that someone can force their
29 Foxtrot789 : Even if they were dropping bombs and launching missles at the plane, they'd all still just be "attempts" at that point. I think you're just assuming
30 N766UA : I CANNOT believe you beat me to that joke. That having been said, it's a jet, so I'd think it's more likely to be John Travolta. The cops need to cal
31 N766UA : Completely incorrect. There's no such thing as a "password" or "input" for starting an airplane.
32 Post contains links tp1040 : Ok, I followed up on this. Turns out is wasn't Tom Cruise or Travolta. ... passenger officials described as "distraught" when he shoved past crewmembe
33 Post contains images Maverick623 : Thank goodness I finished the whole post.... especially after the T-shirt thread
34 Post contains images AirframeAS : 1) Law Enforcement cannot do anything to an aircraft as they are not certified to do so. You would need to get a mechanic to do something to the plan
35 United727 : You're saying on ANY transport category jetliner, as long as the APU is powered up and you happen to know all of the systems and switches to turn on,
36 N766UA : Yep, pretty much. It depends on the jet how involved the start procedure is (as noted, the ERJ is pretty simple, for example), but it's basically jus
37 Post contains images United727 : I would have to speculate between that Enthusiasts/Geeks on here (A.Net), most of us could probably make our way thru the current systems/panels, lol
38 N766UA : Haha I'm sure there's plenty of flight sim dorks who know their way around a panel pretty well, I wouldn't put it past them. That said, 99.9% of us w
39 Post contains images United727 :
40 XJetflyer : The one who tried to fly over the cookoo's nest!
41 flightsimer : I seriously hope that was sarcasm... I'm too tired to really tell... BAHAHAHA!!! I just laughed for about a min over that...
42 litz : This reminds me of an incident a couple years ago where someone stole a CSX locomotive and took it for a "joyride" a few miles down the track to a loc
43 Post contains images AirframeAS : And failed! Best post on this thread, though!
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