LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 27302 posts, RR: 50 Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 25020 times:
Per GDS load United will deploy its 787s on the following international markets.
Houston - Amsterdam - Effective December 4, 2012
Los Angeles - Tokyo - Effective January 3, 2013
Houston - Lagos - Effective January 7, 2013
Houston - London - Effective February 4, 2013
Los Angeles - Shanghai - Effective March 30, 2013
And previously announced Denver - Tokyo effective March 2013 as well.
Houston was the be the first 787 crew base, I wonder if they will also open one at LAX as well?
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Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10414 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24822 times:
Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 1):
I imagine LA-PVG but LA-NRT is a shocker, considering sCO does not have Global First. This will put UA at a disadvantage considering most other carriers serving LA-TYO markets with First Class.
Yields on LAX-NRT are the worst of any NRT destination due to overcapacity and 7 airlines on the route. I
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FSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 847 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 24187 times:
It's noteworthy that IAH-AMS and IAH-LHR both seem to be temporary just for the Spring (see the More Widebodies at IAH thread...). They are probably filler routes while waiting for enough frames to fly the longer routes to Asia. So by the time S13 rolls around, the routes will be:
And presumably IAH-LAX and IAH-DEN to rotate aircraft.
Pretty cool, and I think those routes all make sense. I wasn't expecting the LAX routes, but it's logical because both LAX-NRT and LAX-PVG are extremely competitive, and the 787 is a good way to differentiate UA while reducing capacity.
SEA SFO SJC LAX ONT SAN DEN IAH DFW OMA FSD MSP MSN MKE ORD DTW CVG MEM JAN BHM RSW ATL CLT BWI PHL LGA JFK MEX LIM KEF
usflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 23827 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 3): Yields on LAX-NRT are the worst of any NRT destination due to overcapacity and 7 airlines on the route. I
Agreed. LAX-TYO has been a shrinking market for the last 10 years or so and is still the most competitive longhaul route in the world with 8 carriers flying LAX-NRT plus there another 2 LAX-HND flights. UA is smart to shift capacity elsewhere. No one bought UA F anyway (those passengers fly NH, JL or SQ) so removing it is not a huge deal.
boilerla From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 23269 times:
Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 20): What ever happen to the AKL route? Wasn't this talked about?
It was cancelled a couple of months ago--very publicly I might add, to spite Houston, but really because it would be a poor performer and is a waste of 2 787s that can be used on better routes.
Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 20): Also, this frees up 2 daily long-haul flights worth of 777-200ERs. I wonder where these are going....
Might be rotating them in during the spring on 763 and 764 routes, which are similar in capacity, while those are refurb'd. There are still 13 763s to refurb and 3 764s. That's my only guess; I doubt there will be new routes announced considering this is all for January-March, the slowest period for airlines.
CONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 23228 times:
Quoting boilerla (Reply 23): Might be rotating them in during the spring on 763 and 764 routes, which are similar in capacity, while those are refurb'd. There are still 13 763s to refurb and 3 764s. That's my only guess; I doubt there will be new routes announced considering this is all for January-March, the slowest period for airlines.
One small correction there's 10 763s left to reconfigure. 6668, 6671 & 6674 are already flying.
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: AKL was cancelled if I remember correctly
: Its great to know we will see a UA 787 at LHR in the near future, I am hoping for a lot more as the fleet expands
: Absolutely, the 787 is probably best suited for the competitive markets. As pointed to out differentiate their service as well as having a more effic
: I've heard rumors AMS would be one of the early international destinations but it's great to see it will be the first one Well, let's hope UA/CO will
: No Newark or Chicago ? Only Houston to LHR ? One would think UA would operate their 787 planes on shorter European flights then all the way to Lagos,
: Will this occupy all 11 a/c or are their more routes to be announced? Seems like this speaks for 8 of them.
: It's quite obvious the new UA has a much different plan for these 787s ( the sCO 787s) than CO did before the merger. It looks like UA is deploying th
: LAX-NRT LAX-PVG DEN-NRT They're going to be flying them on IAH-UA Hubs for at least a month starting in late October. I think this probably speaks fo
: It's a good business decision to put the plane on lower yield routes to boost their P&L, but I was really hoping at least 1 of this list would com
: Here is the press release United Airlines Announces First 787 International Routes http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united...announces-first-787-11000065
: My response to both of those statements is that the current routes probabaly offer the best potential profits possible within the operational constra
: Some good stuff. Like how LAX will be getting the 787 first. Would have had money on the fact that it would have gone to SFO first. I guess with the e
: They will do some hub to hub domestic flying in the fall for crew familiarization. After that, the benefit of these a/c will be on long routes, not s
: No EWR??????? Why??? -____- Guess I'll have to wait even longer. Anyway which will be the first destination from EWR that UA sends the 787 to if UA de
: Shorter European flights as opposed to flying to China and Australia is my definition of " shorter. " 757 is a topic that "stinks" at United, why sho
: IDK why EWR-LHR gets a 752 or maybe a 772 when JFK-LHR gets 764's, 772's, and soon 77W's from AA, DL, and UA.[Edited 2012-08-23 09:15:48]
: I purchased a business class seat from NRT to LAX, May 14, 2013 on UA 772. So, it will now be on the 787? Is the business class product smaller on the
: Why? Due to flat bed seating. Prior to the merger, none of the CO 762/764 had flat-bed seating.