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Flight Attendants Of The 70s-80s  
User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16812 times:

That period was fantastic, commecial aviation was going up, with the arrival of the new giants of the airs, and the airlines had sometimes curious ideas for the uniforms of their crews.

What souvenirs do you have from that period?

For example, let's have a look at these Braniff martians aboard Fat Albert, first Braniff 747, N601BN.






Waimanalo
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User currently offlineATITANIC1992 From Denmark, joined Nov 2011, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16765 times:

My souvenir is that i will call her "stewardess" instead of the political correct FA =)

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5825 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16737 times:

in my part of the world we have thankfully held onto the label "Air Hostess". Those uniforms are stunning.

User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2444 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16710 times:

I have an Emilio Pucci scarf given to me by a former flight attendant.

Here are some links that show what the Braniff flight crew wore:
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic2.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic3.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic25.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic26.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/pic50.html
http://www.braniffpages.com/1965/1965.html

A 90 piece collection of Braniff flight attendant uniforms last year was bid up to $100,000, but the offer was not accepted by the seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-Piece-Bra...ci-Halston-Collection/180285971101



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User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16618 times:

Funny Braniff international, all was different with that airline.

But the others...



Waimanalo
User currently offlineokAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 669 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16555 times:

I cannot think any other occupation that has changed as much as the job of a stewardess/steward. The industry has changed so much. My mother started in 1974 as Finnair FA and worked till 2004. When she left, she said well "It is funny, on paper I retire from the job I started in 1974, but if you ask me, it's not the same job!" Also, we saw an ex-colleague of my mother not long time ago. She said "it's still fun, but everything has changed"

As much as the "old eagels" are bashed, I do respect these "pioneers", who saw the change of air travel along with the onboard-service from graceful five-star-restaurant-like service to snack boxes and BOB. Also, it was these "eagles" who faught for better working conditions as air travel expanded. Surely some of the conditions/benefits can be seen exessive in modern world, but certain restrictions, especially those concerning rest periods should not be touched. They should listen to these people who worked before the restrictions were put in place how it was when you had to report to a flight to New York, though only yesterday you had returned from Bangkok. Human body needs rest, this fact does not change even if the industry changes.

I wish all cabin crew happy landings!  

okAY


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16381 times:

Bring back the Braniff Space Bubble....its so wrong its gotta be right!


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User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16163 times:

Oh yes, everything has changes, so I think it is important to remember the past very nice years...

Another airline, Qantas




Waimanalo
User currently onlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 2003, 14060 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16075 times:

Well, I´ve read an essay by a LH stewardess (she used this term with pride) who started in the late 1950s and quit when the 747 was introduced, because with mass air travel she couldn´t give individual service anymore like she was used to.
At the same time rest time between flights was reduced to save cost and she said she was often too tired and not groomed to the previous (high) standards, so she decided to quit.

Jan


User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15703 times:

Air hostess was not an easy work by the past. One of my friend was working for Air France during the 70s on the 747. She told me during a flight Paris-New-York, she was walking 13 KMS!!! in the airliner.


Waimanalo
User currently offlinenomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15583 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
in my part of the world we have thankfully held onto the label "Air Hostess"
Quoting ATITANIC1992 (Reply 1):
My souvenir is that i will call her "stewardess" instead of the political correct FA =)

TWA always insisted that someone serving in the cabin be called a 'Hostess'. The title had to be changed when the first male F/As were hired in the late 1960s. The only men working prior to that were the Pursers on international flights.


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1716 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15552 times:

Quoting DID747 (Reply 7):
Another airline, Qantas

The guy in the window seat definitely has a "look" in his eyes in that photo.


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15347 times:

It's hard to think that the F/A's in that first Braniff photos are now grandmotherly women! Time marches on!
But you can bet anything that they are still ladies!


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2444 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15095 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 12):
It's hard to think that the F/A's in that first Braniff photos are now grandmotherly women

Braniff went bankrupt on May 12, 1982 - over 30 years ago. Assuming the youngest F/A at the time was 25 years old at bankruptcy, the youngest Braniff F/As would be at least 55 years old today.



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User currently offlinetcxdegsy From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 14966 times:

Best website I know for a photogallery FULL of Airline's uniforms ("1132 different uniforms from 443 airlines") is www.uniformfreak.com

This is a KLM Steward who collects uniforms from all over the world. A facinating look at the some of the bizarre choices of some airlines through the year!



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User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1357 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13321 times:

Don't forget advertising from that era, focusing on flight attendants.

We have come a long, long way since the old National Airlines “Fly Me” campaign of the early 1970s. “I’m Lorraine,” a seductively posed stewardess would say to the camera. “Fly me to Orlando.”

Braniff had a similar pitch, called the “air strip,” showing attractive young stewardesses changing uniforms mid-flight to the sound of suggestive music.


PS



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
User currently offlinewellies From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12034 times:

Who needs AVOD when you can sit and study those 'masterpieces of fabric design' for 12 hours!

User currently offlineTbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11933 times:
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Airline sales pitches? How about Delta? Ready when you are. Piedmont? The up and coming airline? Those Braniff uniforms look like a nightmare. Remember the mini skirt stewardess uniform? I loved it when they would serve a passenger in the window seat. I even snapped a few photos of that! Ahhh...the old days.

User currently offlinerb211-524h From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11457 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 12):
The guy in the window seat definitely has a "look" in his eyes in that photo.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed, the first thing I saw on the Qantas pic was how creepy the guy in the window seat looked!


User currently offlineokAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 669 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11301 times:

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 18):

I wouldn't say he looks creepy, maybe a bit geeky   And his eyes, looking at her under the eye brows, says "oh my..." knowing he doesn't stand a chance!   that's my interpretation, anyway   She seems to be a real looker, tall, blond, slim and she seems to be wearing very high high heels..=sexy!   Anyone else sees that?

Uniforms used to be more important to airlines. At Finnair, till early 1990's the airline had different uniforms for summer and winter. Real mink fur (not flame me for this!) hats during winter ops and Pierre Cardin designed silk scarfs...

okAY


User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10990 times:

Let's have a look at this passenger, on an Alitalia 747 flight, this man doesn't look happy but angry...




Waimanalo
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3856 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10775 times:

I think this one's kinda creepy

Think of her as your mother

American Airlines - 1968

LoneStarMike


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10315 times:

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
That period was fantastic, commecial aviation was going up, with the arrival of the new giants of the airs, and the airlines had sometimes curious ideas for the uniforms of their crews.

For anyone interested in the history of the stewardess, I recommend the following book written by a retired BOAC/British Airways stewardess. I picked up a copy that I spotted at random in a bookshop in London on a trip a few weeks ago.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glamour-Skie...ss/dp/0752449044#reader_0752449044

Click the "first pages" link on the left for some sample pages. It focuses on what she refers to as the "golden age" of the stewardess in the 1950s through the 80s. Although the contents are mainly devoted to BOAC/British Airways and their predecessors (e.g. BEA), it covers the general subject quite will with many references to other carriers. It also focuses mainly on the stewardess, not the male cabin crew members. Includes many photos from the early days and reminiscenses from dozens of cabin crew who worked during that period. It contains a few technical errors but in general it's very well written.

I note the Amazon entry says it's hardcover, but my copy is softcover.

[Edited 2012-08-24 03:26:34]

User currently offlinevirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10237 times:

Quoting DID747 (Reply 9):
Air hostess was not an easy work by the past. One of my friend was working for Air France during the 70s on the 747. She told me during a flight Paris-New-York, she was walking 13 KMS!!! in the airliner.

It's still a hard job !  

Although, London to New York is one of the shortest sectors I do.
The longest sector I do is LHR - HKG - SYD - HKG - LHR, being away from home for upto 10 days.

I work on the 747 (amongst other long haul aircraft) and trust me I am always exhausted after a long flight ! Sometimes with very short lay overs. However, I love my job and wouldn't change it for anything !

Luckily now, I only work in Upper Class !  

I still think though, with some airlines the glamour of flying is still there.



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User currently offlineokAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 669 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10207 times:

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 23):

Not sure about the glamour part... If you think of the golden era, when people would dress up in order to take a flight.. People would be impressed when you told you work as cabin crew. Husbands would be proud their wives are/were cabin crew. The whole atmosphere around it was different. Now, it's just another job, indeed the "aura" around is gone.

okAY


25 virgincrew : I totally agree about the 'golden age of flying' being over, when people dressed etc.. But people are still impressed and really interested when I te
26 bastew : I have my aunties TAA (Trans Australian Airlines) cabin bag from the early 80's. Lots of the crew I work with at BA started in the early 70's. Many of
27 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Air France has brought a lot of improvement. At one time the new air hostesses recruits were not really at the top. From my recent flights with them,
28 Post contains images DID747 : South African Airways during the 70s-80s. An hostess in front of the first SAA 747-200 ZS-SAN "Lebombo".
29 RWA380 : I can't believe not one person has mentioned the legendary PSA flight attendant uniforms, with the minis and the go-go boots. I'm not able to attach a
30 Post contains images smi0006 : I think with regards to uniforms and branding as whole airlines are re-newing the level of attention paid by to style and a sense of modern fashion. T
31 Post contains images DID747 : Here's the PSA Tristar and crew members.
32 Post contains images RWA380 : Thank you so very much for the incredible blast from the past photograph, I remember these gals from my youngest years, of course the PSA planes as w
33 Cody : What a great photo! I recognize the fifth gal down on the far right row. She's a good friend of mine. She just recently retired from US AIRWAYS. Prio
34 Post contains images DID747 : Some more photos showing PSA, the tristar and the crew members...
35 Cody : Thanks for the additional PSA photos. Don't know the lone gal standing with the 1011, but the two girls laying across the seat backs in the center pho
36 Post contains images highflier92660 : Good old Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) based in KSAN. It was a less politically correct time when the airlines could shamelessly hire stewardesses-
37 type-rated : For some reason those PSA uniforms look very much like the early Southwest uniforms, the ones with the white go go boots.
38 FlyASAGuy2005 : Goodness...i'll be much obliged to sop her up with my Momma's biscuits...
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