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User currently offlineYankeesFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 216 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13039 times:

Where would the AA 787 go?


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3332 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13069 times:

DFW-HKG (though I think this is better suited for the 77W), MIA-JNB are a couple of routes that pop to my mind.

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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13020 times:

Would love to see MIA-NRT but not sure if that would happen. I would hope AA would finally start MIA-JNB. If they ever got their act together in TLV MIA-TLV I think could work also.


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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12991 times:

DFW-GRU
DFW-NRT
MIA-NRT
LAX-ICN (eh, maybe)
LAX-HKG



I would put DFW-LHR but they use BA's code share for their routes across the pond. I would truly hope that with the addition of the 773's they will crack open the Asian and Indian market.


User currently offlineUnited727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12949 times:

Everyone is alluding to International travel only for the 787. I'm certain that you'll see the them on many domestic flights as the years go on!


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User currently offlineYankeesFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12922 times:

I'd say JFK-HND, MIA-NRT, JFK-BOM, ORD-TLV, JFK-TLV.


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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12919 times:

Quoting United727 (Reply 4):
Everyone is alluding to International travel only for the 787. I'm certain that you'll see the them on many domestic flights as the years go on!

Tis true. I can see Trans-con replacing the 767-2 but definitely not SEA-MIA (although I'd love to be on it for sure) One could only dream   


User currently offlineYankeesFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12904 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 6):
Tis true. I can see Trans-con replacing the 767-2 but definitely not SEA-MIA (although I'd love to be on it for sure) One could only dream  

An A321 is going to be used from JFK-LAX/SFO.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12736 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 3):
MIA-NRT

Yep definitely the best possible route.

If this happens, coupled with the UA service and of course NH and JL, NRT will be 787 city!

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 3):
DFW-NRT

hmmmm maybe 77W would fill this better.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
DFW-HKG (though I think this is better suited for the 77W), MIA-JNB are a couple of routes that pop to my mind.

Agree with both.



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12717 times:

Very good topic, and it complements the current UA 787 topic quite well!

Quoting United727 (Reply 4):
Everyone is alluding to International travel only for the 787. I'm certain that you'll see the them on many domestic flights as the years go on!

I doubt it, unless it's part of a routing like JNB-MIA-LAX-NRT or something like that. With fingers crossed due to frequently flying on the MIA-LAX route!  


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12141 times:

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 7):

You're right. Totally forgot about the 321's coming aboard.

Would it be safe to say JFK-GRU or LAX-SCL? I'm sure the new 773's could manage the JFK-GRU but I'm guessing the 787 has the legs to pull off the LAX-SCL route.


User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9558 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12129 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 10):

Would it be safe to say JFK-GRU or LAX-SCL? I'm sure the new 773's could manage the JFK-GRU but I'm guessing the 787 has the legs to pull off the LAX-SCL route.

I would think JFK-GRU would stay 777. Also would think LAN would be a better bet for LAX-SCL.(don't they fly it already?)

Quoting United727 (Reply 4):

Short of repo flights, and maybe some Hawaii flying....i wouldn't get my hopes up for much.
I can't think of more than a handful of domestic widebody routes for AA not counting JFK-LAX/SFO.



yep.
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 12058 times:
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Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 11):
Also would think LAN would be a better bet for LAX-SCL.(don't they fly it already?)

Yes, LAN operates SCL-LAX 3x weekly during the high season, along with the SCL-LIM-LAX route daily. In October, LAN will increase frequency on the LIM-LAX route to 13x weekly. LAX is an important gateway for LAN; which serves to route pax traveling between South America and Asia. LAN offers connections to HKG, ICN and NRT via LAX and has bilateral code-share agreements with CX, JAL and KE. LAX will be one of the first destinations where LAN will deploy the B-787.


User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11844 times:

They are replacing the older 763's so there will be some domestic flying and Hawaii will be in the mix from DFW....but that will be down the road. No word in house on routes yet...so ya'll are just speculating.

User currently offlinerwsea From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11793 times:

Knowing AA, I'm sure they'll all go to LHR, GRU, and NRT....

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7693 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11722 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 3):

The 787 is too small for DFW-NRT or DFW-GRU.

The 787 would be a great plane for routes like MIA-NRT and DFW-HKG but I don't know if AA is that brave. They will probably replace 763 routes.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11697 times:
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Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 15):
The 787 is too small for DFW-NRT or DFW-GRU.

What about ORD-GRU?


User currently offlinetsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 629 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11648 times:

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 5):
TLV, JFK-TLV.
Quoting flymia (Reply 2):
If they ever got their act together in TLV MIA-TLV I think could work also



Did AA ever settle the suit with the Israeli Govt. that they inherited from TW? If not, AA won't be flying to TLV at all...


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7693 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11427 times:

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 5):
I'd say JFK-HND, MIA-NRT, JFK-BOM, ORD-TLV, JFK-TLV.

TLV for AA is out.

I doubt AA could make a dime in India either.



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User currently offlineYankeesFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11076 times:

How about JFK-DXB and LAX-DXB?


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User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10668 times:

maybe they would get back into the OSA or TPE markets before going to a new one like HKG? I say that with a little uncertainty because I know it's OW hub-hub service.

I think MIA-NRT is a pipe dream, the only way the could fill it would be local Floridians who go to DFW or ORD now, or 80% on connecting traffic from Mexico, Central and South America. Maybe I am totally wrong though. Who knows.

If Bob Crandall were CEO I would say it's going to a new route, but with the current climate at AA, I highly doubt it's going to be on any new routes for a while.

Maybe if NH blows SJC out of the water they'll bring it back SJC-NRT. Who knows, it would be still be OW hub-hub... I have heard the Asia-Pacific market has struggled with not having their own metal from the Bay Area. so who knows.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7693 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10473 times:

Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 19):
How about JFK-DXB and LAX-DXB?

They couldnt make any money on those either. No way they could compete with EK.



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User currently offlineYankeesFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10327 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 21):
Quoting YankeesFan (Reply 19):
How about JFK-DXB and LAX-DXB?

They couldnt make any money on those either. No way they could compete with EK.

Yep. EK has a product which kicks the living daylights out of AA's product.



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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10286 times:

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 11):
Also would think LAN would be a better bet for LAX-SCL.(don't they fly it already?)

I thought about that too.

Since they have the -9 on order, how much more range does the -8 have than the -9?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10009 times:
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Quoting rotating14 (Reply 23):
I thought about that too.

Since they have the -9 on order, how much more range does the -8 have than the -9?

LAN is not going to deploy the B-787-9s on the SCL-LIM-LAX or SCL-LAX routes after LAN receives its initial batch. However, it would be awesome if LAN deploys the B-787-8 on the SCL-LAX route on certain days during late December or early next year.


25 PHX787 : Huge negative on that one. EK has the upper hand on these routes easily.
26 rotating14 : Do they operate anything close to that at the moment?? Seems like a no brainer.
27 BoeingGuy : As much as I'd like to see that I doubt that SJC-NRT can support two flights. I was hoping for one of AS's partners (DL, AA) to pick up SJC-NRT for t
28 brilondon : I doubt that we would see the 787 flying to HNL or any where else in Hawaii until the 763 is down to its final routes. There is very little money to
29 IrishAyes : Not a chance. Routes like JFKDXB and LAXDXB are also heavy on connecting traffic over Dubai to destinations beyond the UAE. Nowhere near enough O&
30 BoeingGuy : That is a popular perception, but others have stated it's false. AS sure does well flying to Hawaii. But yes, I would agree with your speculation tha
31 YankeesFan : Thanks for being the umpteenth person to tell me this..... I get it already...
32 seabosdca : But you can't do so with a premium three-class international product. AA's 787s will not be configured appropriately for Hawaii (or any other domesti
33 Boeing773ER : Everyone keeps saying about TLV, and that is something I would doubt. Back when TWA was independent, they quickly left TLV. They had a bunch of back d
34 SCL767 : Eventually all LA operated flights into both LAX and SFO will operate with the B-787-8s. The SCL-LIM-LAX route will soon operate with the B-787-8. Ho
35 N737AA : They are the 767 replacement, but that is why I said that type of flying would be down the road. Yes, 757/763 will continue the domestic role they pl
36 seabosdca : I would bet money that 10 years from now the only domestic 787-9 flights are repositioning flights. I think the A319/A321neo and 737 MAX will take ov
37 Post contains images RWA380 : They didn't the last time, I doubt another foray into the India market is going to do any better, while India based carriers are all struggling to on
38 IrishAyes : There were merely two other people who responded to your post and all I did was contribute a little information about O&D patterns between LAX/JF
39 YankeesFan : I was exaggerating a little bit there. I am sure you understand you were beating a dead horse already.
40 4engines4lnghll : I would most of all love to see a Tel-Aviv route open..... Or maybe ORD-ATH? Or DFW-FCO? Just throwing around some exotic ideas.
41 ckfred : Except by the time AA starts taking delivery of 787s, AA should be out of Bankruptcy. By that point, AA should be in expansion mode.
42 IrishAyes : Or, I was trying to add some extra information that could be perceived as valuable to not just you, but a broader audience of people reading these th
43 SCL767 : IIRC, AA plans to acquire only B-787-9s, not B-787-8s.
44 brilondon : I was just saying that the AA 787's with their three class layout won't be in Hawaii soon because AA would like to use it on their more premium route
45 blink182 : Sort of. Most 757s that fly to Hawaii are in domestic configurations, but I'm reasonably confident that DL, and I know for certain that AA and some U
46 kiwiandrew : All this speculation is very interesting... but has AA ever actually firmed their 787 orders? I thought they were still hanging in limbo until they ge
47 YankeesFan : AA has 42 787-9's on order and AA will get its first 787 in 2014.[Edited 2012-08-24 16:48:05]
48 runway23 : The 787s will be 2 class though. The only 3 class aircraft in the fleet will eventually be the 77W and 321 transcon.
49 rotating14 : Earlier this year there was a huge pomp and circumstance regarding the 787 and it was there for a day or two before flying back to Everett. With that
50 Post contains images IrishAyes : Yup, you're correct - typo on my part. Been a long week with minimal sleep It's an interesting setup. I wonder if anyone here could break down the cu
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