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The Big UA Crossfleeting Thread  
User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12529 times:

So, ladies and gents (mostly gents I'm sure), with the schedule upload tomorrow (Sat, Aug 25) the largest number of sUA and sCO redeployments will occur since the merger.

United now has a very flexible fleet - and you may say the difference between an A320 and 737-800 is small, but across a whole fleet and a bunch of flights those extra (or fewer) seats add up. Also the performance characteristics of the planes will be matched to routes - A320s deployed where a non-SFP 738 couldn't take off, 73Gs on those long long flights, things of that nature.

So as you note these schedule changes, lets keep them here. Things I know will be happening:

SFO - going to be a big 739ER recipient
IAH - going to get all those A320s from SFO

and more.

NS

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12536 times:

Quoting gigneil (Thread starter):
SFO - going to be a big 739ER recipient

I'm expecting DEN to get a LOT of 737's with a reduction of A320/757's. Maybe it is too soon for that?



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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12500 times:

I understand, from what I understand, that SFO is going to be sending A320s and getting 739ERs in return since there's no such thing as a lightly loaded mainline flight to SFO.

Basically as I understand it, IAH is not filling its 738s or 9s consistently - and the routes that DO will be getting 757s. So a lot of A320s to IAH to right size those flights, and a lot of 737s to DEN and SFO to backfill the A320s and 757s.

So. Yeah.

NS


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12478 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 2):
a lot of 737s to DEN and SFO to backfill the A320s and 757s.

A lot of the DEN guys (ramp) is not going to be very happy about that. However, I am!   



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User currently onlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 899 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12461 times:

But IAH will still get its share of 738s and 739s.


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User currently offlinesonomaflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12456 times:
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Why would the ramp guys not be happy? More bags to toss?

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12450 times:

Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 5):
Why would the ramp guys not be happy? More bags to toss?

Using Cobra/Shares on the 737's and having to follow what the CO loadplanners want is a major pain in the butt for those guys so it is a "nightmare" for them. On the sUA aircraft, it is lead discretion on how the plane is loaded.

Leads want the same flexibility when loading a sCO aircraft as if it was a sUA aircraft.



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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12362 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 4):
But IAH will still get its share of 738s and 739s.

Actually the plan is to move almost the entire 737 fleet from IAH and replace it with A320s. Certainly, they will be getting their 737s through.

I know the facts in this case. But you can believe whatever you want.

NS


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12357 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
Leads want the same flexibility when loading a sCO aircraft as if it was a sUA aircraft.

Are the systems that divergent still?

NS


User currently onlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 899 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12328 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 7):

But why the entire 737 fleet though? And where did you get those facts.

[Edited 2012-08-24 18:37:02]


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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12274 times:

Its not the entire fleet, as you pointed out. There will be a lot of crossover.

To make you happy: in a lot of cases the 737 fleet is too small. IAH will be getting a LOT of 757s from the SA)">UA side.

But the A320 fleet is better suited to a lot of the IAH flying. It has an onboard IFE system that isn't satellite, so its best used to those Mexican and Caribbean and northern SA destinations.

Also, IAH is unencumbered. They can add flights there all day. 5 A320 trips exchanged for a few 737s that would be very key in the SFO long-haul domestic network. Most flights from IAH are shorter than most flights from DEN or SFO.

It makes sense. I promise. It works out in the wash.

NS


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5143 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12261 times:

The schedule change that is happening tomorrow - what are the effective dates?


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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 11):
The schedule change that is happening tomorrow - what are the effective dates?

September, I hear, for at least 90-100 flights on the crossfleeting. It will be the entire fall schedule at least.

NS


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12225 times:

Are they shifting the pilot bases?

I also don't really understand the Shift on the A320s. I guess the 16 seat difference is significant for UA.



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User currently onlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 899 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12174 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 10):

Thanks for the info.  



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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12180 times:

It seems that EWR is also getting a lot of a319s and a320s. It seems that sCO's fleet is better-suited for sUA, and visa versa. EWR is now chock-full of E-170s!

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12168 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
Are they shifting the pilot bases?


The 737 Captains I know are not moving bases that I have heard.

Quoting gigneil (Reply 2):
Basically as I understand it, IAH is not filling its 738s or 9s consistently


That is an interesting comment, since every B738 or 9 that I've been on in the last 10 years from IAH has been either full or just about full, and the guys I know who fly them say the same thing. I know I'm not on every flight nor are they, but what's your source?



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12038 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 8):
Are the systems that divergent still?

As I understand it, they are still separate. I am not a lead, btw, and the leads are the ones who do all the scanning.



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User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11967 times:

I've used IAH as a transit hub for nearly two decades. It's rare to find flights that aren't booked in my experience. I've flown to BOS, EWR, LGA, DCA, PIT, RDU, MCO, MIA, TPA, VPS, MOB, MSY, SHV, AUS, DAL, SAT, SJT, ELP, OKC, TUL, ORD, CLE, CVG, DEN, MTJ, COS, PHX, TUC, LAS, SAN, LAX, SFO, SEA, PDX, HNL, MEX, CUN, CZM, BJX, PVR, ZIH, ACA, PTY, CCS, EZE, GIG, GRU, LHR, and NRT.

Not scientific by any means but I'd like to see where IAH isn't filling planes...


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
Are they shifting the pilot bases?

I hear there is a new pilot base for each in the cities affected, but a lot of the flights will go IAH-TPA-ORD-TPA-IAH, par example.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
I also don't really understand the Shift on the A320s. I guess the 16 seat difference is significant for UA.

Its less. 144 vs 154 in the Y+ config. Also, the A320 (wait for it) has better SFP than the non-SFP 738 so that is driving some of the choices (like EWR-SXM).

And you're right, it does make a difference. That 10 seats is a lot of revenue if a flight is going out totally full every day and those 10 seats can always be filled.

Plus, there's the IFE thing.

NS


User currently offlinecosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11858 times:

What is the effect on the 737's at DEN altitude. I know UA got the IAE engines primarily for the extra trust from DEN (same with HP in PHX for heat, which I suppose effects IAH, but not an issue due to humidity). Obviously 737's can fly DEN, as CO flew them there as long as they've had them, but does it not make sense to keep more of your high trust engines in your one hub that is most in need of thrust?

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11633 times:

I don't know a whole lot about crossfleeting to DEN yet - but DEN was one of the hardest hit by the retirement of the 737 fleet originally. I guess it all depends on what they can make work.

UA got IAE engines because they would never purchase another GE product. That's clearly changed. But the A319s are the ones with the thrusty engines - the A320s have the standard 27k.

Back in ye olde day, DEN and ORD were the ones with the 737 fleet, and plenty of runway and a relatively mid-Continent location means DEN will likely get a 738 even as far afield as BOS with a completely full load. I don't see a big problem.

NS


User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 752 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11441 times:

sCO 737 pilot bases open in DEN and ORD with some expansion in LAX

sUA opens 757/767 and 320 pilot bases in IAH.


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11373 times:

Any idea if ROC will be getting 737's (of any variation) from ORD ?


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User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 487 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11302 times:

Quoting DualQual (Reply 22):
sCO 737 pilot bases open in DEN and ORD with some expansion in LAX

beat me to it! Those bases become "live" the start of the SEPTEMBER Bid period. Sure, it brought down coverage in our main hubs, but it will make the long term affect of turning, delays, recrews way easier.

Just one more step in integrating this airline. Expect more to follow for bases.


25 VC10er : What about widebodies? When will we see 3 class sUA aircraft start to move from IAD, SFO to other hubs like IAH and EWR. I believe there are 2, 3 clas
26 warreng24 : I'm looking at the schedule on united.com right now (8/25) and I don't see any additional aircraft changes that weren't already previously loaded. Any
27 STT757 : Any examples yet? I found this which looked interesting, nice bump in capacity. IAH-SAN 2 A320, 1 737-800, 3 757
28 kgaiflyer : Yeah -- I fly sCO and sUA about 50-50 (93 segments so far this year) and notice that neither subsidiary has empty seats lying around. On what route a
29 T5towbar : It's a pain for everybody on both sides. It's because the way the sCO plans the load, especially with the 900 and the tail tip. It's loading in rever
30 tommy767 : 9/13/12 for instance: EWR-MIA: 3x sUA 757, 1x sCO 739 A definite bump in capacity.
31 ANITIX87 : Damnit. I fly to MIA allllllll the time, and I intentionally take UA1086 because it's a PMCO 757. I don't love the 737s. TIS
32 tommy767 : I flew EWR-MIA on UA this past April on a sUA version. Other than the pissed off crew and a delay, it was a great ride. Enjoy them out of EWR as they
33 gigneil : Its beyond our ability to understand the yield management system. I doubt there are a ton of seats flying empty. I am betting that its a ratio of whi
34 spiritair97 : I don't think sUA's T7s have the legs to do EWR/IAD-Asia. On a side note, will PVD be seeing 737s replacing a319s and a320s to ORD?
35 United : ... except that they do it every day from IAD UA976 IAD-DXB (7069 mi) UA897 IAD-PEK (6921 mi) UA803 IAD-NRT (6753 mi) UA982 IAD-KWI (6575 mi) Maybe y
36 mpdpilot : they surely do. I think what you are thinking about are the few 777-200 (Non-ER) models that UA has. But I asure they have quite a few ERs as well th
37 VC10er : Thanks, I fly to IAD or ORD from EWR to get GF on a 777 or 747. I wish they had an sUA 3 class bird from EWR to at least NRT and HKG! With the new me
38 AUSisAwesome : Looking at flight schedules, a lot of EWR-Texas flights (primarily AUS, DFW, SAT) have gotten 320s and 319s. Don't know where the 738's and 9's are go
39 tommy767 : The cross fleeting can be so random. I don't know how they schedule it. One day in september EWR-DFW is all 737s, the next day 2-3 A32S
40 avi8 : Where can I see the new schedule??
41 AVENSAB727 : I wonder how many routes out of IAH will be 757s
42 kgaiflyer : Back on July 6th the last IAH-BWI flight of the day ( UA1268 ) was a 752. It's the first one I ever remember flying on that route. Otherwise, IAH-EWR
43 RyanairGuru : I've noticed that from Nov 27 onwards IAD-LAX is not only going from 10x to 8x but is also going 100% A32S, 5x 319 and 3x 320. That seems to be quite
44 YankeesFan : Do the A32S have IFE because I am not too sure if they do.
45 thegreatRDU : Any word on RDU-SFO? will it go to a 737-900ER??
46 RyanairGuru : Overhead video content, but not DirecTV like on the sCO frames
47 YankeesFan : Well the A32S needs refurbishments IMHO.
48 akelley728 : They most certainly do. All A32S have overhead monitors with Hemispheres in-flight entertainment.
49 kgaiflyer : I'm guessing complete refurbishment (which is suppose to include larger bin space) will have to wait until the end of the summer peak season.
50 futureorthopod : well...looks like I'll have to be extra picky about times I fly...b/c for the time being I'm sticking with CO frames...just sayin'
51 kgaiflyer : Oddly, all the 319s, 320s, 737-700s and 737-900s do. But not all the 738s have IFE. A few don't even have overhead. The non-IFE 738S turn up a lot on
52 kgaiflyer : That's the beauty of choice. For instance, even though I have 104,000 Mileage Plus miles so far this year, I also have 22,000 miles on AA and 4 Rapid
53 drerx7 : IAH-BWI has seen the 752 before. It was flown before CO sent most of them transatlantic.
54 tommy767 : Not really. What's wrong with the overhead screens? I don't like paying the 7.99 for a 2.5 hour flight of Directv. I think it's a rip off.
55 CONTACREW : Not all 739s have IFE either Aircraft #s 443-444, and 446-455 are all IFEless.
56 STT757 : Eventually all 73G, 738, 739s and 753s will have Directv.
57 CONTACREW : Nope not all 753s will have DirecTv. Only aircraft #s 851-859 (the CO originals) will get DirecTV. Aircraft #s 860-871 (The ATA hand me downs) will r
58 drerx7 : Not too bad actually as those are the birds goin to Hawaii...no DirecTV reception.
59 traindoc : Since my earlier post was deleted, I will try again. As a long time CO flyer based in SAT, I am greatly displeased and disappointed by the fleet shift
60 aznmadsci : I know I ask this question a lot and I always forget the answer, but what about WiFi on these? I remember the 753s were to have gotten WiFi rather th
61 Post contains images gigneil : Yeah its been common prior years. Luck would have it, United keeps it online. For which you should be thrilled. The A320s are vastly more comfortable
62 YankeesFan : Yet there is NO AVOD.
63 drerx7 : So what...
64 CONTACREW : They will get wifi eventually, but I believe for now they are just getting DirecTV. The ATA hand me downs will stay as is.
65 CONTACREW : This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but some people actually prefer the newer 737-800/900 aircraft over the older A319/A320 aircraft.
66 YankeesFan : What if the flight time is 4 hrs+?
67 drerx7 : I prefer the ng737s to the 319s/320s in general...but those damn seat cushions on the CO 737s are hard as hell. I don't have an issue with pmUA Airbu
68 CONTACREW : Agree, I recently flew back to EWR on an sUA A320 and I thought the ride was good. Although I do prefer the 737-800/900s over the A320s.
69 AVENSAB727 : But there will be 73s still down in Houston though.
70 YankeesFan : Well there is 100 channels of DirectTV. Unless there is a powerport and wifi then AVOD is a MUST on long flights.
71 drerx7 : How old are you? I am 30 and your response instantly made me feel like I was a century old. First off 4 hours is not that long for AVOD to be a must.
72 YankeesFan : If you click my profile.... I undterstand that 4 hrs is not that long at all. But what about a flight that is 6-18 hrs?
73 Post contains links gigneil : http://www.united.com/CMS/UADocuments/pdfs/timetable.pdf Go nuts. I've already found some outstations that have quite the flip/flop. BWI is one - most
74 AVENSAB727 : wow, but I bet that many flights out of IAH will still be with 737s despite the coming numbers of Airbii.
75 YankeesFan : Wow.
76 drerx7 : Ok...16 years old...smh... Well, we are talking about Airbus and no ptvs/avod - so its somewhat irrelevant. You won't be on any UA 319/320 on stage l
77 cosyr : That is definitely a matter of opinion. I know the A320's have a slightly wider fuselage diameter, but I just don't feel the difference between the .
78 gigneil : Dude, who cares? Post something useful or interesting. Please. Just once. You could in fact read the schedule and tell me how many. How do you feel a
79 YankeesFan : Wrong. I am 19 years old. Also a transcon flight could be 6 hrs+ with an A320. Hopefully I can avoid the a32S aircraft.
80 AVENSAB727 : It still shows plenty of 737s in the schedule.
81 gigneil : Find me one 6+ hr transcon on an A320. NS
82 AVENSAB727 : could not find one.
83 CONTACREW : Here's a couple of transcon flights I found that are operated by sUA A320s with block times that are over 6 hours: UA451 EWR - LAX 6:02p 9:06p 0604 24
84 AVENSAB727 : I think he meant out of IAH.
85 gigneil : Good examples. I think over such a route I'd still go for the seat comfort. Its not that I have anything against anything sCO. Just those seats. So ba
86 AVENSAB727 : I see, but I saw that there was still alot of B737s, and 757s flying out of IAH.
87 kstateinALB : I don't think having or not having AVOD indicates whether a plane is comfortable or if a plane is in impeccable shape. I, for one, would rather have
88 gigneil : They have 300 of them. Great. NS
89 AVENSAB727 : Thanks once again, sorry for any inconvenience, but love to see the variety or Airbus, and Boeing now at IAH. Spotting should now be pretting excitin
90 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Hope you never get a UA 747 I know people who've done the 13/14 hour legs from SYD to LAX and SFO and survived, but it was definitely a common "grumb
91 kgaiflyer : You mean pmCO 752s rather than pmUA752s? I didn't know that, and I've been flying the route since CO was Skyteam and flew MD80s into BWI.
92 kgaiflyer : Hard to believe there are folks who feel it's the world's job to entertain them. Personally, I always have an mp3 player *and* an ebook with me. That
93 kgaiflyer : Transcon? I've been doing IAD-SFO-IAD monthly at 5 hours westbound and 4 hours & change eastbound. Btw, last trip (Aug18th) was a 319 westbound a
94 cruiseshipcrew : Normally LAX/SFO-HNL flights are shorter than transcons. I recently did SFO-HNL in under 4 hours while the JFK-SFO leg was 6.
95 Post contains images tommy767 : I noticed from the timetable that PMUA metal is finally back in FLL. CLE-FLL gets 757, EWR-FLL get 320, and ORD-FLL gets 320s Also there is a lone 763
96 drerx7 : Yep pmCOs have made appearances on IAH-RNO/BWI/ORD/DTW before. Of course IAH-ORD saw the DC10 in the early 2000s before there retirement.
97 AVENSAB727 : I wonder if the UA airbii will recieve sharklets, They would look even more sharp!
98 drerx7 : As of now No...
99 YankeesFan : Damn... Good thing you didn't.
100 AVENSAB727 : When is IAH-ORD supposed to go 763 again, I want to see some wingletted UA 763s at IAH soon.
101 YankeesFan : You have a point though...
102 CODC10 : I don't count on it, but DirecTV is fantastic if you're traveling during a sporting event. I'm a diehard NY Giants fan (don't even miss preseason game
103 drerx7 : It hasn't started but it looks like it'll start September 6th.
104 Roseflyer : There is no retrofit available for sharklets because the modifications to the wing would be too significant.
105 gigneil : I don't think thats right. I mean it makes sense but I have heard tell of shark let retrofits in the works NS
106 Post contains links CONTACREW : Let's be fair now Tommy if your gonna compare interiors, at least use a pic where both aircraft have their window shades open you selected a pic with
107 gigneil : I think some a.netters do. But the general public can't discern between a new 737 and a new A320. I have a general question to the crowd : I have been
108 drerx7 : I'd like to know this too, I'll be on a pair of 739s this weekend down to CUN from IAH.
109 Post contains images BEG2IAH : Count me in. I heard this from sUA die hards only. I don't have any natural cushioning and I don't think sCO's 737NG seats are hard as rock. Try wind
110 flyingclrs727 : That would explain why on my completely full flight from IAD to AUS almost 2 weeks ago there was a request to check carry on items from at least 10 p
111 CONTACREW : He does, but he prefers the sUA aircraft. For example on another thread he's always pointing out how such and such city has an sUA 757. Like people w
112 cruiseshipcrew : I wouldn't include channel 9 as IFE. I fly 4-5 times a week and its on 10% of the time. I don't think hes said anything positive and sometimes states
113 flyingclrs727 : Sounds like the flights my congressman takes.
114 flyerboy1990 : The crossfleeting has been interesting. My family flew CLE-LAS on the 24th and it was an A320. Usually, it's a 738, 739 if not 753.
115 kgaiflyer : Hard to tell from here. But that announcement has been made by someone on every UA flight I've been on for the past year. By the time you get to boar
116 kgaiflyer : On the contrary, the 737-700 is the biggest offender. And the pitch is a bit off so the cabin is cramped.
117 drerx7 : Yep, the upside is at least you get to circumnavigate the bag fees.
118 CALTECH : They are in the works. I do, flying or working on them. Non-Koito seat equipped aircraft are better, but there are a lot of Koito seats still out the
119 AVENSAB727 : Cant wait to see UA A320s will sharklets at IAH.
120 drerx7 : LIke he said - they are working on a modification for them...but it remains to be seen IF UA will get them. The large order for 737s may presumably r
121 AVENSAB727 : But one can hope...
122 gigneil : Which implies we know better. You might be an F/A, but just like most citizens, I'll give you a dollar if you could tell the difference blindfolded.
123 kgaiflyer : I've yet to be on a 700 model that has had E+ installed. That may be why my experiences differ from yours.
124 tommy767 : They won't be getting replaced. If they are revising the cabins and adding these so-called "sharklets" then I think it's clear they aren't planning o
125 CONTACREW : Let's review the meaning of the word personally shall we? I said I personally prefer an sCO 757 over an sUA 757 because I like the interiors better o
126 CALPSAFltSkeds : You must not have flown one in a while or been extremely unlucky as over 80% have had E+ for about a month. It makes sense that they have the most E+
127 drerx7 : Let's not start that again...We will have to agree to disagree because the facts that you posted don't hold water. I respect your opinion and you are
128 slider : Which is problematic, but junk loading is rampant. And it shows in the bag numbers....but I digress... They're, in a word, gross. But back to the 737
129 Post contains images spiritair97 : Dude, I hope she did something so terrible to you that it warranted that kind of cruel and unjust punishment! I agree. I flew on my first DL 73G a co
130 tommy767 : I'm curious, how are they gross? I think you are exaggerating. I flew one on EWR-LAX in June in row 40, last row by the rear lavs. The seats were in
131 CODC10 : I miss DirecTV and power, but on balance, it's a good thing. More F seats. Correct. I believe the Delta 73Gs have Weber 5751 seats, which are more co
132 tommy767 : sCO 757s don't have directv, I believe -- unless that is also integrated into their AVOD sytems?
133 CODC10 : They don't. I say that because the s-UA 757-200s are mostly replacing s-CO 737s and some 757-300s. For example, IAH will be seeing a a large number o
134 tommy767 : The bulk of EWR-LAX is operated by the s-CO 757s. In september there is a mix of 738, sUA 757, and a long awaited near daily 764!
135 CODC10 : I know, but usually the 752s flew daylight in both directions, usually RON at LAX. Very rarely did the -200s do eastbound redeyes.
136 kgaiflyer : Take it easy -- I'm a 1-K and fly on just about everything sCO and sUA have. But you're quite right. My last trip on a 700 model was SNA-SFO on Monda
137 CALTECH : Great point about the bias. Your picture looks so much better. A complaint we have, is that on the legUA 757s, the seat head rest covers seem to reta
138 gigneil : You don't count. I fully believe you can smell the difference. NS
139 Post contains images CALTECH : Drat !
140 beachbum1970 : Anyone know if the Koito "park bench" seats in the s-CO 737s are going to be replaced eventually? How about just adding new seat cushions that are mor
141 AVENSAB727 : I wonder how much of the 737 fleet will stay at IAH for international ops to Latin America?
142 gigneil : i wonder how many 737s they have. can they fly to jnb from iah on a 737? NX
143 kgaiflyer : Planespotters says 239 737s of all types in house. Six are on order--I assume for delivery this year. Of those six, one 739ER had it's first flight A
144 Post contains images spiritair97 : Ummm......I don't think so.......... Did you mean 777? In which case, I don't think so.
145 Post contains images drerx7 : LOL...unfortunately its the Yankeesfan/Avensa727 disease...apparently its infected one of our respected and knowledgeable users...RIP gigneil.
146 CODC10 : I think the plan is to transition to more Airbus flying to Latin America. However, IAH-TGU will probably stay 73G as it is a special-qual airport.
147 AVENSAB727 : Well, I hope that IAH-SJO and IAH-CCS stay 737. Quoting drerx7 (Reply 145): I am just trying get a grip on the cross fleeting at IAH.[Edited 2012-08-2
148 Post contains images CODC10 : It's okay, we're here for you!
149 DualQual : Cities like BOG and SJO would probably be better served with 757-200s due to the performance required. The 737s at times take penalties which leaves
150 AVENSAB727 : I wonder about CCS?
151 strfyr51 : If you look at the UAL route map you'll find that the IAH route Structure is either North EAST north Central . Northwest or dead south. The Airbuses a
152 gigneil : I'm taking a cocktail of prescription drugs to fix it. Expect me back when I get it out of my system. NS
153 spiritair97 : LOL! Does anybody know if PVD is gonna get crossfleeted at all on the ORD runs? Sorry if I asked before but I lost track and don't know if anybody an
154 kgaiflyer : Believe or not, part of DirectTV's helping pay for the installation on CO 737s was the proviso that service will only be in the lower 48. CO's DirectT
155 gigneil : NO. Its licensed for up to 100 miles from the US, which YVR and YYC both very clearly are. They are moving A320s to IAH to take over many of those Sou
156 tommy767 : It makes complete sense for the 320s to operate IAH to Latam. I'd definitely expect it soon. Would like to see a PMUA 757 on EWR-BOG instead of the 7
157 gigneil : Calgary slightly less than clearly at about 151 miles. NS
158 gigneil : Yes there is. "I hope" posts belong in polls and prefs, being a preference. NS
159 Post contains images Sulley : Ironically it also worked on IAH-YEG the other night
160 AVENSAB727 : I think IAH-CCS should have been a 752, but a A320 will do nice.
161 AVENSAB727 : I looked at the UA site and looked up flights for IAH-CCS for summer 2013, it still shows 737s, when will the Airbus 320s replace them.
162 CODC10 : I think you might have that backward. DTV cannot specify where UA routes their airplanes, but the service is only reliably available within the Lower
163 AVENSAB727 : What else does cross fleeting has in store for IAH.
164 Sulley : Most UA 747's will be operating from IAH.
165 tommy767 : Uh, this I highly doubt.
166 gigneil : Legally the FCC can specify where UA operates the product. Canada is in theory not allowed. Possibly in the Summer 2013 schedule, which will come out
167 CODC10 : Right, but that's not what I was referring to. There is no agreement to my knowledge between United and DirecTV (really LiveTV) that specifies where
168 gigneil : Ah of course you're quite correct. NS
169 Post contains images Sulley : I was being snarky
170 RDH3E : The schedule is not fleeted that far out right now.
171 drerx7 : Those are dummy schedules. Not accurate in the least except for roundabout times of departure. Oh god...its contagious...God help us all...
172 AVENSAB727 : I doubt most will operate out of IAH, I doubt this is true.[Edited 2012-08-29 15:03:44]
173 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Seriously? You post that? When he has already said... sometimes I wonder...
174 AVENSAB727 : My bad, he posted it before I could post what I said.
175 gigneil : Do you guys think they'll order A380s and fly them from IAH? NS
176 AVENSAB727 : Nope, UA said that they have no room for the A380.
177 kgaiflyer : Besides -- production of the 380 slowed way down while Airbus investigated the QF wingbox problem.
178 gigneil : You're not catching on. NS
179 AVENSAB727 : Look at this comment that was written in chron.com, it is just ridiculous. Don't get fooled guys... The only reason why they are doing the touch and g
180 Post contains images point2point : Just curious..... which operations are being moved to DEN?
181 AVENSAB727 : None of course, the post from chron.com is from some troll.
182 Post contains images RDH3E : He posted it 45 minutes before you posted I'm going to start refering to this and "AVENSA-ing" someone.
183 AVENSAB727 : I think this guy is just trolling around at chron.com. Well anyway, I expect to see more UA 757s at IAH to fly some latin routes.
184 RyanairGuru : Do you have the link? Right now it reads like those are your own words! Next time use " when quoting so you don't get flamed!!!
185 Sulley : Chron users are so intelligent. Oh Houston, what are we going to do with you?
186 tommy767 : Some IAH fans believe in conspiracy theories. Instead, they should go out and ride on a 757 instead because CO never had the fleet flexibility to sche
187 Post contains images kgaiflyer : Ah, so. Sorry, I've always been slow.
188 strfyr51 : No !! No decision has been made to shut down Houston as HUB!! where did you get that tripe from?!? Nobody at UAL said any such thing !!
189 AVENSAB727 : I did not say that tripe.
190 kgaiflyer : It is very difficult to determine what you are saying and what you are quoting since there are no attributions. **Who** at Houston Chronicle said the
191 AVENSAB727 : Yeah, I should have backed up the post, well anyway, I would love to be frequent flyer, and I am working towards it.
192 Sulley : Why? Same plane as a 737.
193 SA7700 : This thread has run its course with members baiting each other into unnecessary off-topic flame fests. All posts added, after the thread lock, will be
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