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User currently offlinespeedbrds From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19097 times:

I couldn't find this posted anywhere, but according to local (Los Angeles) news CBS; they are reporting an emergency landing of a Virgin Australia 777-300 due to landing gear problems.

According to the media, it also states that it was carrying 416 pax on board. 416 pax? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was aware it only carries roughly 380 pax with current cabin layout.

Article: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ht-makes-emergency-landing-at-lax/

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User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19072 times:

According to VA, the 777-300ER in its current configuration carries 361 pax in a 3-class layout, 33J + 40W + 288Y.

I wouldn't be surprised if the media screwed something up. It wouldn't be the first time. Sounds like they might have transposed the numbers, or perhaps there were only 316 passengers onboard?

Hope everything turned out alright for everyone.



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User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16274 times:

Quoting speedbrds (Thread starter):
Article: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...-lax/

So much for local news channels... they cannot even get the terminal numbers of the local airport correct...
Terminal 25??? Guess the 5 was added in error


User currently offlineHAWAIIAN932 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 16045 times:

They must have meant arrived on RUNWAY 25 instead of at Terminal 25. gotta love the media. Clueless.

User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 549 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15368 times:

hope it goes well... I also wonder if they'll be "sitting on the runway" for hours. Or, "taking off at the gate"... gotta love those statements!

User currently offlineogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11477 times:

Nowadays, it just takes a quick two or three clicks to get in contact with our best friend Mr. Google and ask any question. Not sure why the reporters don't use any of these tools, A.net included to void make embarrasing statements. What makes me mad is that they are so assertive in their nonsens, and nobody apologizes either. Anyhow, I didn't mean to go off in a rant in this my first posting as a new First Class Member! Been reading you for years! Hugs and blessings

User currently offlineTbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11337 times:
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I am with you guys 100% as concerns the media. A large part of the problem is that they are in such a damned hurry to get the story out and to be the first to do it that they do not fact check first. They figure they can always walk it back later on and that people do not really care. Remember that 9/11/01 media reports initially had some 60,000 killed in the WTC alone! They were never called out on that to date. The media always gets a pass. They do not answer to any entity. They are the low or the high, depending upon your perspective. Beam me up.

User currently offlineMark2fly1034 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11079 times:

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 2):
uoting speedbrds (Thread starter):
Article: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...-lax/

So much for local news channels... they cannot even get the terminal numbers of the local airport correct...
Terminal 25??? Guess the 5 was added in error

If they landed on 25 they would go to Terminal 5 which is where VA unloads their flight.


User currently offlinelevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 995 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10175 times:

And the famous quote from the movie is still "Oh look, there's LaGuardia, runway 44"


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User currently offlinevhtje From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9886 times:
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Quoting speedbrds (Thread starter):
According to the media
Quoting AA94 (Reply 1):
I wouldn't be surprised if the media screwed something up
Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 2):
So much for local news channels.
Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 3):
gotta love the media. Clueless.
Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 6):
I am with you guys 100% as concerns the media.

Come on now. If the media did their job, there'd be nothing on these forums to gripe about. We all love the media's mistakes because spotting them makes us feel smug.

Admit it, do.


User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9759 times:

Quoting ogshelly (Reply 5):
Nowadays, it just takes a quick two or three clicks to get in contact with our best friend Mr. Google and ask any question. Not sure why the reporters don't use any of these tools, A.net included to void make embarrasing statements.


You have the right idea, but I think what they really need is a consultant. Somebody who can proof their news item and immediately notice when something doesn't ring true, or who knows how to check the facts expeditiously. E.G. I don't know off the of my head how many seats a Virgin Australia 777 has - but I know where to find out in less than 15 seconds. I DO know the designations of the LAX terminals... etc.

The larger news organizations have experts that focus on certain areas, such as sports, or The Middle East. But I think aviation news is too small and far between to warrant retaining an aviation expert on the staff. Ergo - the need for a consultant on-call. However, perhaps in the larger scheme of things (and we airplane geeks not withstanding,) perhaps they don't think it's that important?



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 738 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8412 times:

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 10):
I think what they really need is a consultant. Somebody who can proof their news item and immediately notice when something doesn't ring true, or who knows how to check the facts expeditiously.

...

But I think aviation news is too small and far between to warrant retaining an aviation expert on the staff. Ergo - the need for a consultant on-call. However, perhaps in the larger scheme of things (and we airplane geeks not withstanding,) perhaps they don't think it's that important?

And I suspect they'd usually be right. For most people, the A380 picture on a story about a DC-9 goes unnoticed, and even for a.netters it goes with a smile. For the most part, it really does not matter.

It does matter in some cases, though, such as when the public gets an incorrect view about accident causes and the like. That being said, lets not criticize the media before looking at what silliness goes on at a.net. Just look at the various AF 447 threads, as an example.

In any case, please do not think that the media treats aviation in some particularly bad way. In my experience, they get _every_ topic equally wrong. We only believe in the correctness of the articles because we are not an experts on most fields. But at least for me, whenever I happen to have firsthand knowledge or I'm an expert in the topic, the articles leave a lot to desire. Every single time.


User currently offlinevaus77w From Australia, joined Aug 2011, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5575 times:

Flat right main centre tyre.

http://avherald.com/h?article=454e4ffc&opt=512

Is this actually a serious issue worthy of declaring an emergency?


User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3651 times:

Quoting vaus77w (Reply 12):
Is this actually a serious issue worthy of declaring an emergency?

Everything that is not a normal is emergency for the media. End everybody is praying and they all thought they were going to die, invariably, even if the passengers did not know about the problem until it was over.



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