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AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb  
User currently offlineroberto277 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 7 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9960 times:

A supposed WW2 bomb has been found during construction works at AMS. Part of the airport, C wing, has been closed.

More info see:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...ort-wwiibomb-idUSBRE87S06N20120829 (English)


http://www.telegraaf.nl/reiskrant/12...uigbom_gevonden_op_Schiphol__.html (Dutch only)

Hope it's solved soon. I'm supposed to fly from AMS to LHR tomorrow. Tricky shit those WW2 bombs. From time to time they find those on AMS airport grounds. Bomb squad is on the scene.

[Edited 2012-08-29 01:35:34]

[Edited 2012-08-29 01:37:17]

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User currently offlineroberto277 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9528 times:

From BBC News:

Schiphol closure over 'WWII bomb'

Part of Amsterdam's Schiphol airport has been closed after a suspected World War II bomb was discovered, a spokeswoman said.

The departure hall serving most European destinations has been evacuated as a precautionary measure.

Delays are now affecting some departures and passengers are advised to check their flights before leaving for the airport.

A bomb disposal team is trying to establish whether the device is live.

The bomb was uncovered by workers digging near Pier C, which connects the main plaza with Departure Hall One, serving most destinations within Europe's 26-country passport-free Schengen zone.

"This will have a big impact. We can park planes somewhere else to some extent but at some point it will lead to cancellations or delays," the spokeswoman said earlier, according to Reuters news agency.

Schiphol was used as a military airfield by Nazi Germany during the 1939-45 war, and was often attacked by allied bombers, Dutch media said.

It is now one of Europe's busiest airports, handling some 48 million passengers every year.

Unexploded bombs dating back to the war are still frequently discovered in Europe.

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday.

A 1.5-tonne mortar bomb probably fired by Nazi forces was also safely removed from the Polish capital, Warsaw.


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6432 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

Quoting roberto277 (Reply 1):
Unexploded bombs dating back to the war are still frequently discovered in Europe.

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday.

A 1.5-tonne mortar bomb probably fired by Nazi forces was also safely removed from the Polish capital, Warsaw.

Who is the likely culprit for the AMS bomb?


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1672 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9249 times:

It's highly likely to be a german bomb, as the location where the bomb has been found has been bombed by the Luftwaffe very intensively on May 10th 1940 by Ju-88's and He-111's. If it is a 50kg bomb, then it was dropped by the Heinkels, whereas the Ju88's had 250kgs bombs in their bellies.

Allied bombardments were aimed at the 'Fliegerhorst Schiphol' as the Luftwaffe called the Schiphol airport during WWII which is more to the eastern parts of the current airport grounds. ( Schiphol-Oost )



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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3473 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

While off-topic, today one American WW-2 bomb had to be blown up in Munich because it was impossible to defuse it (long term acid explosion device of unknown state).

The pictures are quite impressive:

http://www.stern.de/panorama/blindga...chen-1885951-3b927fba412b4964.html

[Edited 2012-08-29 05:01:54]

User currently offlinealasdair1982 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2008, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9122 times:

The video of the Munich bomb being detonated is even more incredible!

User currently offlinekeegd76 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Aug 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9025 times:
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Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Allied bombardments were aimed at the 'Fliegerhorst Schiphol' as the Luftwaffe called the Schiphol airport during WWII which is more to the eastern parts of the current airport grounds. ( Schiphol-Oost )

Don't forget allied bombing during WWII was very inaccurate with RAF bombers, at one point, barely getting their bombs within 5 miles of their target.



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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9264 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8893 times:

Reports plane from Spain to Amsterdam hijacked

Update - now it's coming across the wires plane, possibly hijacked, landed at Amsterdam, and is surrounded by special forces.

[Edited 2012-08-29 05:42:14]

Third update - Dutch police sent out a wire saying they are dealing with a hijacking situation with a plane on the ground at Schiphol. *HOWEVER* passenger on the plane has called in saying there isn't a hijacking on the plane.


[Edited 2012-08-29 05:44:52]


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User currently offlinegrimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 449 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8855 times:

I just seen this on the headline of the BBC website:

Dutch military sends F16 jets to Schiphol airport after reports of hostage-taking - details soon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/


User currently offlinetripple7 From Netherlands, joined Aug 1999, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8706 times:

Interesting day at AMS...possible hijacking, WW2 bomb. Sounds like a cheap hollywood flick starring Bruce Willis  

User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 837 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8377 times:

Well fortunately, there was no hijacking:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19407429


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1672 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8347 times:

Quoting keegd76 (Reply 6):
Don't forget allied bombing during WWII was very inaccurate with RAF bombers, at one point, barely getting their bombs within 5 miles of their target.

I'm fully aware of that! Especially the first years it was bad, that was why I put it as 'highly likely'  

Anyway, press reports now do indeed confirm it was a german 500-pound bomb.
Besides the C-concourse the 06-24 has been closed down as it is to close to the C-concourse.
Specialists are also talking about a possible bigger area that has to be shut down as the bomb is difficult to reach ( under water ). More info to be expected soon



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User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

There's definitely something strange with the Vueling aircraft. It's still sitting near or on 18R with a emergency vehicles still on the taxiway between 18C & 18R .. if it's only a loss of communication they are sure taking a very long time.


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4672 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8080 times:
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The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.  

Link (sorry, in Dutch only): http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2896066/...plaatst-vliegtuigbom-schiphol.html


User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8037 times:

Vueling now being towed from the runway.


I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences.
User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4672 posts, RR: 38
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7999 times:
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^^ The passengers have already left the airplane. So not much drama (fortunately).

User currently offlinekeegd76 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Aug 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7877 times:
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Quoting DALCE (Reply 11):
Anyway, press reports now do indeed confirm it was a german 500-pound bomb.
Besides the C-concourse the 06-24 has been closed down as it is to close to the C-concourse.
Specialists are also talking about a possible bigger area that has to be shut down as the bomb is difficult to reach ( under water ). More info to be expected soon
Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.


Surprised they moved it (and so quickly). If its underwater I'd have thought it would be safer to detonate it in place rather than try and move it. Just the act of moving it could be enough to set it off.

Do we know how close it is to the C-concourse?



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User currently offlineJana From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Sep 2009, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7645 times:

indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3473 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6175 times:

Quoting Jana (Reply 17):
indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

Well, british and american bombs are of equal longetivity... It is amazing (and scary) to see how deadly those old bombs still can be.


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6100 times:

Quoting Jana (Reply 17):
indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

Usually bombs that fail to detonate are considered failures.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6039 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 2):
Who is the likely culprit for the AMS bomb?

Most likely the RAF Bomber Command or the USAAF 8th AF.

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 19):
Usually bombs that fail to detonate are considered failures.

They are still dangerous, and can detonate years or even decades later.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12773 posts, RR: 100
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5863 times:
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First, congrats on moving the bomb. Yikes!

Quoting tripple7 (Reply 9):
Interesting day at AMS...possible hijacking, WW2 bomb. Sounds like a cheap hollywood flick starring Bruce Willis

Stallone man! Stallone. I can just see it now. Overly broad, overacting in stuttered mono-syllabic pronunciation.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.

Great to hear.

Quoting roberto277 (Reply 1):

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday

Now there is a job.  

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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4672 posts, RR: 38
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4683 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 21):
Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.

Great to hear.

And the bomb has been detonated on that safe and secured site.  


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