srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16896 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 26891 times:
Quoting kaitak744 (Thread starter): Around 3:28, there is a United 777-300ER..... Is that some detail that slipped, or just some marketing people messing up?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5379 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 26388 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 8): Why wouldn't have UA ordered 777-300's? Could they have served as 747 replacements or not?
They could have replaced the 744's with the 300ER but the decision was made by the time UA would be ready to start retiring the 744's the next generation of aircraft would be available...ie the A350.
HNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 799 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 26332 times:
The video refers to 777 customers and is not model specific and of course UA was one of the launch customers for the aircraft. However, the CG generated illustration is a 300 model with the modified livery. I doubt that including it in this video is a mistake. Inflight video of UA''s 200er in the post merger livery is available and could have been used. Boeing would not have used this without UA's authorization and therefore, I suspect announcement is not far off. UA needs the aircraft before the 350's will be there, even if it isn't delayed further.
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fun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 853 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25716 times:
I can certainly see UA w/ a 777-800. Not sure about the 77W as pictured, but it sure is interesting and recent due to the paint scheme. Perhaps the A350 is further delayed.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26961 posts, RR: 83 Reply 13, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25337 times:
Quoting kngkyle (Reply 11): It says the 77X, 748, and A3510 are being considered (by UA), not the 77W, but who knows what could happen at the negotiating table.
Assuming UA is still prepared to start 747-400 retirements in 2016, the 777-300ER would be available by then, as would the 747-8.
BA and AA seem to be doing okay with their new 777-300ERs, so perhaps UA is re-evaluating the model.
JAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1218 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 23574 times:
The livery depicted is also the brand spanking new 787 style wavy gold line livery. Something may indeed be afoot.
Quoting kaitak744 (Thread starter): Is that some detail that slipped, or just some marketing people messing up?
I can't imagine it's a mistake - the marketing folk must have hundreds of hours of United 777-200 stock film laying about in their computer data base. I think something's afoot! I also can't imagine that Delta and United would allow AA to purchase a gaggle of 777-300s without responding in kind.
ghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 783 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 23348 times:
Most, or all, of the CGI aircraft were 777-300's. Probably rendered the video that way for simplicity's sake, as not many people would point that out.
And, of course, it makes sense that Boeing has created some stock renders of UA 77W, 77L, 77E, etc. since they're a current customer.
Slightly off-topic, but: All the published "new orders" videos are actually the same video, with the carrier's livery. It's easier and more cost-effective to have just one model/video and change the textures.
phxa340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 624 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 23264 times:
Quoting ghifty (Reply 16): It's easier and more cost-effective to have just one model/video and change the textures.
Marketing videos are made for the masses who wouldn't even know the difference between a 77W vs 772. I think us A.net folk are just reading too much into it. Or there is a very cruel Boeing marketing individual out there that likes to mess with us.
But , I will never say never. Way more bizarre things have happened.
jcwr56 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 233 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 22608 times:
Quoting ghifty (Reply 16): And, of course, it makes sense that Boeing has created some stock renders of UA 77W, 77L, 77E, etc. since they're a current customer
Perhaps, but why use a very specific paint scheme for the 787 on a CGI model 777 the carrier doesn't even operate, let alone own?
If other airlines are looking to purchase, wouldn't you (or in this case Boeing) want to make sure you're showing factual information in a promo piece?
lh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2256 posts, RR: 17 Reply 19, posted (9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 22562 times:
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Quoting Polot (Reply 7): LH Cargo has 777Fs on order, so the LH tail isn't much of a surprise.
Those on order where originally intended for AeroLogic, not for LHC only just recently it's officially that indeed the planes will carry the LHC livery which might coincide with the date of the video ...
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Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26961 posts, RR: 83 Reply 20, posted (9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 22370 times:
Well Boeing has inadvertently let the cat out of the bag before: during the 787 roll-out ceremony, the tail of QR appeared as part of the "display of customers". I think Boeing also pre-maturely announced a QR 777 order at an air show and then there was the temporary appearance of Hong Kong Airlines as a 747-8 customer.
hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2123 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 22138 times:
I would suggest that just perhaps there has been a Boeing presentation on the 773 to United in the recent time that this CGI was originally developed for. Mebbe even a 748 one also? grin.
ebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (9 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 20490 times:
That would be one beautiful bird. It's interesing that such a picture would be publicized unless both Boeing and United want to "leak" an upcoming order. Here at A.net it obviously stirs a wealth of excitement.
Seeing this screen grab for the first time I have to admit I got very aroused buy the United "CO livery"
Since many here believe that the CO livery is dated looking, as do I, here it seems like they made some changes with a metallic paint.
This is NO accident, this had to have been approved by UA. Hmmmm!
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25 pnwtraveler: Every sales pitch is probably equiped with pics of aircraft in question in airline livery. Not just signed sales. I am sure Boeing has pitched 777's m
26 kaitak744: Yes it is entirely possible that Boeing made this image to place it in a sale pitch to United. However, it just does not make sense that they would re
27 SXDFC: So if pictures mean a definite order then what do the models mean? WN 787-8H4 IB 787-856
28 cosyr: The only people that would notice this more than a.net are the people at Boeing that touch the planes all day. A lot of people speculated about new l
29 HNL-Jack: UA kept the revised livery under wraps until just before the roll out of their 787. UA has not indicated that any other aircraft will carry the revise
30 EK413: Wasn't aware AA received their B77W While on the subject when is the first delivery scheduled...? What a shame QF did not see the advantages by intro
31 MauriceB: Hey, they will receive the first frame in late November/December, with another one entering the fleet before Jan 1. End of March 2013 they will have
32 EK413: With retirement of the B744 fleet planned for 2016 I wouldn't rule out the B77W as a replacement especially taken into account UA was behind the desi
33 fun2fly: UA has already dropped a few 744's (2 units?). Anyone know how many will exit in 2014 and 2015? If they can accelerate the retirement of these and pi
34 EK413: A B77W has proven to be a perfect candidate as a B744 replacement and SQ have demonstrated it with the B77W order and top up order...VA operate a fle
35 CXB77L: That looks magnificent I don't think they'll cancel their A350-900 order, but that doesn't mean they can't order the 777-300ER as well. I would add t
36 columba: No, the planes were ordered by LH unlike the Aerologic planes which are leased so it was always more likely that the planes will end up with LHC. Alt
37 EK413: Do we even have any renderings of the B777X...? EK413
38 SWALUV: Isn't the 77W a 777-300? DL doesn't operate the 300's they operate the 200's. Looked online and it says the 77W is the 777-300, just asking.
39 Polot: Yes, the 77W is the -300ER and DL has none. They do operate a fleet of 772LRs though, which is probably what EK413 was thinking of.
40 EK413: Depends which variant... The stretched 777-300 was designed as an A-market replacement for 747-100s and 747-200s... The 777-300ER ("ER" for Extended
41 Stitch: As noted, I do not believe Boeing has issued any renderings of the 777X. Also, the 777-9 should have a longer forward fuselage (one expects that is w
42 Hamlet69: Indeed. In fact, both QR and RBS were present in that video, neither one of which had publically announced their orders for the aircraft until much l
43 VC10er: As much as I love a 777 and so impressed by it's success and safety, I love her razor sharp lines; the 3 tail fins and perfect straight tube and wings
44 N766UA: Yep, I doubt this is positively indicative of any kind of order. Pretty jet, though.
45 tdscanuck: No kidding...that's because they're all up against the same laws of physics. A solution that works is a solution that works. Why? They don't make the
46 columba: not yet Still a few years ago there was a lot more difference in aircraft designs, T-tail, rear mounted engines, wing mounted engines, wings on top o
47 EK413: I hate you lol Have Boeing set a EIS date for the B777X...? EK413
48 CXB77L: It's tentatively set for 2019 although Boeing hasn't specified whether it's the 777-9X or -8X that will EIS first. I would imagine that the -9X would
49 BlueSky1976: Actually, there were some conceptual drawings, showing the aircraft face - front, just to highlight the difference between wingspan. I thinkg Flightg
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Marketing videos are made for the masses who wouldn't even know the difference between a 77W vs 772. I think us A.net folk are just reading too much into it. Or there is a very cruel Boeing marketing individual out there that likes to mess with us. 
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