Gnomon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1360 times:
A post back in May indicated that Delta plans on keeping its MD-88s for another 10-15 years. Given the need to reduce capacity recently, have estimates on the retirement dates for the MD-88 fleet been pushed up any?
RJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1113 times:
Why a piece of excretion? I don't like very much the MD-88 but those aircraft isn't a excretion. The MD-88 fleet will be retired between the 2005 and 2010 replaced by the 737-800. Remember the future Delta's fleet will be:
Rojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1105 times:
What about the B767-400. Is it included in Delta plans or they didn´t like the aircraft and they won´t have them anymore.
They also need a small plane with capacity between 100 and 145 seats. Today they have the B733 and B732 (Delta Express). Isn´t the B73G a good choice?
Airbus380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1073 times:
They are pieces of excretion. I flew on one PNS-ATL-AUS. The air conditioning wouldn't turn off. I was freezing to death. I was sitting in 18A. On a 2.5 hour flight I got served a 5 cm bag of bad chex mix and a .5 pint of water. For $500 I don't think that was very nice. And the aircraft was terribblleeeee!!!!!!! The engines sound like a mad swarm of wasps. That whining is ridiculus. DL and any other airlines that have MD-88s should get rid of them.
Navion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1002 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1052 times:
I think you are unfair in your treatment of the plane when you talk about what you were served to eat!! Further, Delta's MD88's have a tighter seating arrangement than American Airlines, whose MD80's are nice to sit in. Finally, I've sat in seat row 18A and disagree with your characterization of engine noise as being high or like a "swarm of wasps"! Don't confuse the condition of an airplane with the design. Fly American Airlines MD80's and then report your opinion. By the looks of your forum name however, I think an unbiased opinion may be difficult to come by.
DeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 988 times:
Most of DL's MD-88s may (and many do) look like crap, but from my experience with them they fly very nicely. (Hurry the painting process Mullin!) Also, it seemed pretty quiet to me; but I was in F/C...the furthest possible from the rear mounted engines. Also, DL has something like 1 752 on order atm...are they going to place a larger order any time soon? Some of those planes are 17 years old already.
America West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 967 times:
The air conditioning wouldn't turn off.
Why not? All you have to do is turn the nozzle, if that doesn't work, get a blanket, if there aren't any left, oh well. I doubt that every single MD-88 in the Delta fleet has an air conditioner in seat 18A that doesn't work. How can you judge the aircraft by what kind of food you were served? That should be directed towards the airline itself.
DouglasDC8 From Australia, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 924 times:
I flew onboard an MD-88 from EWR-ATL on 27 DEC 2000. The legroom was standard for that type of aircraft on a domestic flight. The noise level was fine, even lower than an aircraft that has wing mounted engines. The best thing that this type has going for it is the undisputible fact that they have an exeptional safety record.
L-1011 Tristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 908 times:
You have no right to stereotype every MD-80 made. You can turn the nozzle a different way, If that didnt work you should of told a F/A. Regarding the service, Thats usually what you get on a flight that short. How was the aircraft terrible? The MD-80 Series uses the Pratt & Whitney JT8D Series which are extremely powerful engines. The MD-80 Series is one of the quietest aircraft I've ever flown on. I've sit in 25A and didnt think it was noisy.
So I take it that you want Delta (Who has over 90 MD-88's) Continental who has a shitload, and American that has the most MD-80 Series aircraft to get rid of them??? You know how long and complicated that would be??? Plus what would you replace them with?
RJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 899 times:
The new contract with ALPA exclude the Boeing 717 in the Delta's future fleet plan. The Boeing 737-800 will replace the Boeing 727-200 Adv and the MD-88. And for Delta Express the Boeing 737-700 will replace the Boeing 737-200 Advanced.
RJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12 Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 892 times:
Do you consider the MD-88 only or the MD-80 series because only Delta and Midwest Express has the MD-88 in service in the United States. Continental operates the MD-82 and MD-83, American the MD-82 MD-83 and MD-87, Alaska the MD-83, TWA the MD-83 and USairways operate the MD-83.
CV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 951 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 884 times:
I have flown aboard the MD80 more times then I can count. I've sat everywhere from First to the back. I have to admit that in the last row abeam the engines it is quite noisy, but other then that I have found them to be among the quiestest in the skies. Easily comparable to the 737NGs and new A320Xs. They have a nice ride and I have always enjoyed my flights on them, although I'd try and avoid the last row. I have never flown on Delta's but can't see them as being any different from AA's, TWA's, Continental's, or USAirways.
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 863 times:
There's very few aircraft that I hate.......and of course I love the MD-80.
I have yet to actually fly on one though, but sometime in the near future I most definitely will.
As far a s looks the MD-80's a winner as well, love them T-tails!!
I would give my right arm to fly an MD-80 though and I hope they stick around for quite some time.
OK, as far as DL's MD-88s. The way each aircraft is maintained is the sole responibility of the airline which operates the aircraft or the separate/partner companies which maintain an aircraft through an external maintenance agreement/contract.
So if you flew on the MD-88, of DL's, with a malfunctioning air conditioner that would not turn off, then the fault lies with Delta, not with McDonnell Douglas nor the MD-88 design itself, unless the same incident occurs fairly often over a wide variety of operators maintaining their aircraft accoring to the books. Onyl at which time could it be considered a manufacturers defect. !