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G.Beck: More PR NightmAAres  
User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8672 times:

Glenn Beck has been using his radio show to bash AA over an allegedly rude AA F/A from EWR to DFW.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/radio-...-beck-renews-attack-193627971.html

[Edited 2012-09-05 18:54:13]

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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2027 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8647 times:
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He's just seeking attention, what he does best.

User currently offlinetullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8633 times:

Most people will pay extra to fly on an airline that refuses to fly Beck!!!!


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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8632 times:

Quoting syncmaster (Reply 1):

He's just seeking attention, what he does best.

Isn't that his job?



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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2027 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8612 times:
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Quoting ghifty (Reply 3):
Isn't that his job?

Yes, and it's all he knows how to do.  


User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8548 times:
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Had this happened earlier in the year and AA fired him, he would've been a featured guest at the DNC in CLT. He would've been a martyr for the cause.


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User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1317 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8392 times:
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Quoting tullamarine (Reply 2):
Most people will pay extra to fly on an airline that refuses to fly Beck!!!!

AA does not refuse to fly Beck. Beck chooses not to fly AA.

BTW - I'm with Beck in that regard.



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User currently offlinexjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8382 times:

Interesting that tolerance is preached, yet it cannot be tolerated if it's not your view and needs to be treated like shit otherwise.

That being said, no matter who it is, you never drop your professionalism. If you don't like the guy and can't even fathom the idea that you have to serve him breakfast, then request within your F/As that you switch so you don't have to look at him. It's as simple as this. And if you cannot handle it, then you shouldn't be working where you have to deal with people. Plain and simple.



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User currently offlinephxa340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 885 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8325 times:

This is a perfect use of his time and influence (Sarcasm) . Hopefully none of his sponsors are AA or affiliates. On a personal note, I always find it difficult to give sympathy to first class passengers that complain about the service - have them sit middle row on Spirit Airlines transcon and maybe Beck will realize that Spirit doesn't discriminate again his political views but only in seat space.

User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8257 times:

I had a really bad experience at Subway back in 2005. I just thought you guys should know.

User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8116 times:

Oh the poor Beckster...the trials and tribulations of the uber-rich are such fascinating reads.

User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 928 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 8):

Ditto.

Just sounds like another reason for him to bust out the chalk board on fixed I mean fox news



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5501 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7987 times:

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 8):
This is a perfect use of his time and influence (Sarcasm) . Hopefully none of his sponsors are AA or affiliates. On a personal note, I always find it difficult to give sympathy to first class passengers that complain about the service - have them sit middle row on Spirit Airlines transcon and maybe Beck will realize that Spirit doesn't discriminate again his political views but only in seat space.

HuH?

I really get a kick out fhis website. Heaven forbid someone should badmouth an FA. Heck, let's now turn on the premium passenger and tell him to pi$$ off if he doesn't like it.

Man, it just kills me. Seriously, are we on the side of the airlines being successful or not?

-Dave



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6314 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7923 times:

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 8):
On a personal note, I always find it difficult to give sympathy to first class passengers that complain about the service - have them sit middle row on Spirit Airlines transcon and maybe Beck will realize that Spirit doesn't discriminate again his political views but only in seat space.

It doesn't say whether he paid for F or was an upgrade. Due to his riches, I'm going to at least give it a chance that he paid for his F ticket. In that case, he absolutely has right to complain about service. Paid F, even on a domestic flight, is not cheap. A middle seat on Spirit is, often, quite cheap. Big, big differences SHOULD be expected. Plenty of people complain about their $30 fare on Spirit....I think it's acceptable to not be satisfied about your $800 fare on AA F (if justified).


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5502 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7893 times:

Quoting xjramper (Reply 7):
That being said, no matter who it is, you never drop your professionalism. If you don't like the guy and can't even fathom the idea that you have to serve him breakfast, then request within your F/As that you switch so you don't have to look at him. It's as simple as this. And if you cannot handle it, then you shouldn't be working where you have to deal with people. Plain and simple.
Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 12):
I really get a kick out fhis website. Heaven forbid someone should badmouth an FA. Heck, let's now turn on the premium passenger and tell him to pi$$ off if he doesn't like it.

Just curious, what happened the the idea that we have no proof that anything actually happened? Or that Beck brought it on himself? We have another thread where people claimed that they were denied boarding do to their sons disability and many are saying that it was probably deserved or that we don't know the whole story.

Could that be the case here? Who is backing up what Beck is claiming? In the article even Beck stated

Quote:
However, Beck acknowledged that his wife, seated across the aisle, didn't notice anything unusual.

Tugg



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21556 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7846 times:

Unless this can be corroborated somehow, all we have is Beck's word that it went down the way he says it did. And we know how he likes to play fast and loose with facts and draw inferences that aren't there. So while I do think that FAs have an obligation to provide professional service to customers regardless of their personal opinion of them, one has to consider the source here.

-Mir



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User currently offlinescutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7846 times:

Glenn Beck is a complete clown. Actually he's worse than that, he's a bonifide sociopath.

Not "fawning" over him is hardly evidence that the FA treated him poorly. The guy is a paranoid nut job, period.

Ignore this.


User currently offlinejustlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7769 times:
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This thread no longer appears to be about AA's treatment of their First Class passengers...It has instead become a charged and divisive political commentary. Many on here rant daily about the erosion of airline service. However, many of those same complainers somehow think it is absolutely acceptable if the victim is one of those "mean, white, Southern conservatives!!!"
This is a forum about AIRLINES and AVIATION. It is not the place to bash those with different political beliefs. I think the Mods should lock or remove this thread.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5501 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7736 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 14):
Just curious, what happened the the idea that we have no proof that anything actually happened? Or that Beck brought it on himself?

Where did I say that it happened or didn't happen??? I just addressed the folks here who somehow surmised that because it was a comment against an FA - or more likely, a person with different political views than theirs - that it was not deserving of consideration and must be put down.

For all I know, he made it up, imagined it, etc. I wasn't there.

Quoting Mir (Reply 15):
Unless this can be corroborated somehow, all we have is Beck's word that it went down the way he says it did. And we know how he likes to play fast and loose with facts and draw inferences that aren't there. So while I do think that FAs have an obligation to provide professional service to customers regardless of their personal opinion of them, one has to consider the source here

I think this is a little bit of a dissappointing comment coming from a respected user such as you. Whether it happened or didn't happen is all that matters. It doesn't matter why ore to whom, does it? Or is it going to become one of "those" threads?

Quoting justlump (Reply 17):
This thread no longer appears to be about AA's treatment of their First Class passengers...It has instead become a charged and divisive political commentary. Many on here rant daily about the erosion of airline service. However, many of those same complainers somehow think it is absolutely acceptable if the victim is one of those "mean, white, Southern conservatives!!!"
This is a forum about AIRLINES and AVIATION. It is not the place to bash those with different political beliefs. I think the Mods should lock or remove this thread.

Exactly. If it happened, the FA should be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it didn't happen, then it should just die a quick death.

-Dave



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21556 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7689 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 18):
I think this is a little bit of a dissappointing comment coming from a respected user such as you. Whether it happened or didn't happen is all that matters. It doesn't matter why ore to whom, does it?

It certainly does not, as I think I made clear. My point was only that we only have the word of the offended party, and that the offended party is not the most credible of witnesses.

We see this all the time in these sorts of threads about passenger complaints, about how there are two sides to the story. I'm not quite sure why it is that, this time, those who suggest that things might not have happened the way the passenger says they happened have to be accused of seeing things through a political lens.

-Mir



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User currently offlinesyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2027 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7669 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
My point was only that we only have the word of the offended party, and that the offended party is not the most credible of witnesses.

And not only that, but as the article said that his wife didn't think they got bad service, which just lends credence to your point.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7622 times:

Quoting xjramper (Reply 7):
Interesting that tolerance is preached, yet it cannot be tolerated if it's not your view and needs to be treated like shit otherwise.

That being said, no matter who it is, you never drop your professionalism. If you don't like the guy and can't even fathom the idea that you have to serve him breakfast, then request within your F/As that you switch so you don't have to look at him. It's as simple as this. And if you cannot handle it, then you shouldn't be working where you have to deal with people. Plain and simple.

Not to pick on you, but that post is the perfect starting point for what I'm about to say.


Don't ever, ever, ever trust a media personality whose job it is to stay in the headlines, especially when it involves a political personality accusing someone of politically-motivated mistreatment. This is nothing more than a has-been who is too whacked out for even Fox News to handle trying to keep the spotlight on himself and his business.



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5501 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7531 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
It certainly does not, as I think I made clear. My point was only that we only have the word of the offended party, and that the offended party is not the most credible of witnesses.

We see this all the time in these sorts of threads about passenger complaints, about how there are two sides to the story. I'm not quite sure why it is that, this time, those who suggest that things might not have happened the way the passenger says they happened have to be accused of seeing things through a political lens.

OF COURSE THERE ARE TWO SIDES. The point is that I'm not saying he should be trusted over the FA, you are saying he shouldn't be trusted. Why is that? It's not me injecting my political views or personal opinions about him onto the situation. What about the FA? Heaven knows there's NEVER been a rude FA before.  
Quoting syncmaster (Reply 20):
And not only that, but as the article said that his wife didn't think they got bad service, which just lends credence to your point.

Actually, I think the fact that he acknowledgest that no one else observed the alleged bad service gives his statements a little bit more credibility. He could have lied or implied or stretched the truth to make it seem like she witnessed it or felt something "off" but he didn't - he puts it as him vs the FA.

Whether it happened or not is a different story. Perhaps the FA was rude to him but not for the reasons Beck indicated. Perhaps he wasn't rude at all. Perhaps Beck is making the whole thing up?

Anyhoo...

-Dave



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7392 times:
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Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 18):
Whether it happened or didn't happen is all that matters. It doesn't matter why ore to whom, does it?

It is about whether it happened or not, but it is also about who reported it. Given Glenn Beck's difficult relationship with facts and reality, there is a massive burden of proof on his shoulders. If he claims it happened, then it didn't happen unless corroborating witnesses come forward.

It's not a good year for Beck. He's lost his #3 spot in the ratings, he is only #9 in Talkers' Heavy Hundred, and to top it all, he gets lousy service from a flight attendant...



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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1423 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7368 times:

So even by Becks own accord the crew member didnt actually do anything offensive???? He just put an unopened drink down on his table and didnt have a conversation with him? His wife seemed happy enough!

Id almost say Becks problem is that perhaps he was served by a male flight attendant who perhaps may have been gay???? Just a thought!

Thank god we dont really have such vocal idiots like him in Europe!



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25 Post contains images MX757 : I hope Beck flys United. Doesn't matter to me if he is far right. He could be far left, still wouldn't matter to me. I just want his money. You live i
26 Mir : Because Beck is a professional attention whore (unlike the other instances involving passengers who might possibly be attention whores as a hobby). T
27 Bobloblaw : I learned from years of listening to Howard Stern, you never piss off anyone who has a microphone for three hours per day. Even Clinton couldnt compe
28 Post contains links xjramper : I spent a few years working at a radio station back where I grew up and one day, my boss (the DJ) told me that we would be having Beck in our studio f
29 cokepopper : I don't understand why it matters to anyone WHO he is. IF true it simply was unproffessional of the F/A. It's that simple. As a F/A we put personal fe
30 PlanesNTrains : Have you read some of the FA stories on here before? What about the JetBlue beer-and-emergency-slide guy? I just think people WANT to throw Beck unde
31 haggisman : I've listened to Beck's radio show on KGMI in Seattle a couple of times and he is indeed a rabid, far-right attention seeker of the highest order. I e
32 peanuts : In an effort to so eagerly spout opinion, many on here mistakenly shoot the messenger as opposed to listening to the actual message. In the service bu
33 ItalianFlyer : Note to mods and others: I posted this as a matter of record involving an airline, not to ignite political debate. The fact is....justified or not, AA
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