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Did CO Have Any P2P Routes?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6380 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9757 times:

Say from 2000, did CO operate any P2P routes in the lower 48? I remember NW didnt have any and then they started some around 2003 or so from IND and then GRR and then there was always a focus on MKE. But in CO's case, I don't remember any. Basically, I'm talking about mainline, but if there were any regional routes, please include.




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User currently offlineYXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9719 times:

I don't know of any mainline P2P routes, but there were ~9 destinations operated by 3M as Continental Connection out of FLL (mostly serving the Bahamas) with B1900Ds - an interesting little focus city operation!


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User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9694 times:

Didn't they fly 738s to Hawaii from LAX?

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9686 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 2):
Didn't they fly 738s to Hawaii from LAX?

See below:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
in the lower 48?



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User currently onlinemaxamuus From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9652 times:

If my memory serves me, CO flew LAX-SAT in the mid 90's.

User currently offlineMcoov From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 128 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9621 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):


Quoting LOWS,reply 2:

Didn't they fly 738s to Hawaii from LAX?

See below:

Quoting 727LOVER,thread starter:

in the lower 48?

This would still be a P2P in the lower 48 because CO, which lacked a hub or focus operation at LAX, would've been flying out of a non-hub to a non-hub.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8892 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

For a while (June-December 2009), Continental had a few weekly ERJ-145s on GPT-JAX and GPT-TPA (3x/week for each) that was on ExpressJet.

Continental was also starting a mini-focus city at LaGuardia right before September 11, with flights to BUF (mix of ERJ-135/145, 4x/day), GRR (2x ERJ-135/day), FLL (2x/day 737), MCO (2x/day 737), MSN (2x/day ERJ-135) and RIC (4x/day mix of 135/145), in addition to the IAH and CLE flying. Initial ramp up started in the Fall of 2000, with a second round of cities in February 2001, then 9/11 caused CO to pull these flights.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8892 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9612 times:

Quoting maxamuus (Reply 4):
If my memory serves me, CO flew LAX-SAT in the mid 90's.

This stuck around until very early January 2002.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7799 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9597 times:

As others have said, they had some Florida routes. I did DL, NW, and CO's timetables for flight sim years ago (manually like a noob) so I have a pretty good idea of non-hub flights. You said lower 48 so I won't really mention the CO Micronesia routes or Hawaii routes. There may have been some LAX or JFK flights, but I'm not really sure. Doubt JFK since they had EWR


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User currently offlinemfe777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

They operated McAllen, TX to Mexico City (MFE-MEX) in the 2000s.

User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9448 times:

CO had a Sat only LGA-AUA route as well. Not completely in the lower 48, but one end of the route was.


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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9358 times:

There's also the SEA - ANC pairings.


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User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9322 times:

What about the RDU-CUN flying?


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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3376 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9283 times:

LGA AUA on Saturday

LGA MCO and FLL in the early 2000s for a few months!


User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9284 times:
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Quoting Mcoov (Reply 5):
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):


Quoting LOWS,reply 2:

Didn't they fly 738s to Hawaii from LAX?

See below:

Quoting 727LOVER,thread starter:

in the lower 48?

This would still be a P2P in the lower 48 because CO, which lacked a hub or focus operation at LAX, would've been flying out of a non-hub to a non-hub.

No it wouldn't, since Hawaii is not in 'the lower 48'. If lower 49, then yes  
Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 11):
There's also the SEA - ANC pairings.

Poster precluded this route by saying 'in lower 48.'



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User currently offlineBC77008 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9186 times:

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 14):

Poster precluded this route by saying 'in lower 48.'

Poster did not specifically state in the 48 contiguous United States of America. He/she just said "lower 48." Maybe this is confusing. Especially for those in Hawaii which is South and West of the 48 contiguous United States, making the lower 48 the upper 48.



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User currently onlineipodguy7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9180 times:

LGA-AUA (Saturdays only)


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User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 753 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9121 times:

CLE to anywhere   

User currently offlinexjet From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8961 times:

Quoting mfe777 (Reply 9):
They operated McAllen, TX to Mexico City (MFE-MEX) in the 2000s.

As well as LRD and SAT to MEX for a time. But I guess that isn't completely lower 48.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8917 times:

Quoting mfe777 (Reply 9):

They operated McAllen, TX to Mexico City (MFE-MEX) in the 2000s.

That went waaaay back to the Texas International days IIRC


User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8899 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 2):
Didn't they fly 738s to Hawaii from LAX?

CO flew B747 LAX-HNL in 1972 and 1973 with the DC-10 taking over after that.


User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8801 times:
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Quoting BC77008 (Reply 15):
making the lower 48 the upper 48.

They call it 'the Mainland'.........

I wonder these days of all (or the remaining) legacy airlines , who, if any, offer mainline P2P routes?



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User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8743 times:

use the military ID CONUS

User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8728 times:

The old CO 1973 I flew nonstop SFO-ABQ on a 727. I recall paying a bit extra for meal service.

User currently offlineBobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1594 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8513 times:
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Didn't CO operate some LAX to Mexico Red eyes with E145s and 735s withing the past 5 years?

25 TWA772LR : The route was restarted in the mid 2000s.
26 iFlyLOTs : If you're talking lower 48 you have; DL: PHL-LAX and MIA-LAX and I think thats it..
27 RyanairGuru : RDU-LAX But doesn't DL consider LAX a "hub", or at least a focus city?
28 COalways : CO P2P Routes to my memory in the past 5years LGA-AUA LAX-HNL SEA-ANC PDX-ANC RDU-CUN SAT-CUN AUS-CUN LAX-SAL
29 CALTECH : Remember back in '87 or '88, a 727-200 MCI-OMA-MCI with Continental. That was like a rocket assisted takeoff. Can not remember if when Continental bou
30 DeltAirlines : Pretty much all of them still do to an extent (not necessarily L48, but still): American has FLL-PAP (737-800), BOS-LHR (757-200), BOS-CDG (seasonal
31 mkh32404 : Back in the early 80's flew CO between PNS and MSY. I don't know if that counts because the flight always continued on to IAH. They flew both 727-100'
32 klwright69 : I think most have been covered here. CO had tried different routes to MEX over the years. During the DEN hub they flew DEN-ELP-MEX. But that was pre20
33 Schweigend : Not so much after 2000, but in the early-mid '90s they had focus cities in SAT, MDW, MSY, and GSO ("CAL Lite"). Perhaps others, too, I can't recall.
34 olddominion727 : SNA-HNL, SNA-OGG, SNA-TUS-IAH?
35 olddominion727 : CO "West" flew SJC-SEA, SJC-PDX, SJC-LAX (Hourly), SJC-SAN (I think)... I still have the time table SJC-SEA/PDX/LAX
36 lrgt : Add PHL-CDG (757-200 equipment) Wow AA downgraded BOS-LHR all the way to a 757?! Used to be a triple! Seemed to have good loads, including premium, h
37 RWA380 : CO 747's were flown in the 90's between LAX and HNL, CO 747's have been on again off again visitors to HNL. CO also flew SFO-HNL, been on a CO Mike D
38 Schweigend : With the Pub!! Oh, boy. Back in 1984, when I was in college, I took a Continental flight from AUS to SFO, nonstop on a DC10. It left early in the mor
39 RWA380 : I wish, this was mid 90's when I flew them taking advantage of the fabulous 50's program CO had for travel agents, $50.00 a direction for positive sp
40 DeltAirlines : I was considering CDG (along with AMS/NRT) as Delta "hubs" - mostly due to the JV with AFKL. No JV, and you wouldn't see Delta flying PHL-CDG (or PIT
41 COSPN : There were some tag flights EWR-CMH-IND , LAX-SAT-HOU , LAX-SAN-MEX , but it was more to move the Aircraft not really P2P
42 Post contains links ABQopsHP : While I was living in ELP late 80s to Mid 90s CO had flights that went IAH-ELP-TUS, ELP-ABQ-DEN, and IAH-MAF-ELP-IAH, now granted those were off a Hub
43 olddominion727 : GSO is not a P2P city... it WAS the CO Lite hub! so nothing really from GSO counts...
44 olddominion727 : UAExpress PDX-SEA, PDX-MFR, SEA-YVR ... AA used to do SNA-SEA, SNA-JFK, HP SNA-JFK, DL SJC-SGU-SLC, DL/UA Express SJC-SBA, AS SJCBOI, SJCRNO, AA AUS-H
45 FlyPNS1 : Up until about 2002, CO flew PNS-JAX. However, this route was simply a tag...part of an IAH-PNS-JAX-EWR routing. It was mainline though usually 733 o
46 STT757 : I know someone said to exclude Hawaii, but CO operated Honolulu-Nagoya with a daily 764 for a few years.
47 Squid : I think a lot of the P2P listed in the early 90's was when Continental tried Continental Lite, an airline within an airline concept that didn't have m
48 PROSA : Many moons ago that flight originated in BDL and used a L-1011. You could buy tickets for the BDL-BOS leg, a flight of maybe 30 minutes on a widebody.
49 floridaflyboy : DL operates extensive P2P flying. IND-RDU, RDU-CMH, IND-CMH, CMH-BOS and the list goes on and on.
50 olddominion727 : CO flew SEA-NRT before they sold it to AA
51 asuflyer : In the mid 2000's CO flew LAX-LEN, LAX-AGU, LAX-MLM in Mexico with ERJ's and 733's. LAX-AGU lasted the longest maybe a few years or so. LAX-MLM and LA
52 COSPN : the guy only wants CONUS flights not SEA-ANC, ROR-MNL, TPE-SEL, TPE-CJU, or any of the old non CONUS flights
53 RWA380 : Don't forget Continental West hubbing at SJC before AA was a player in SJC yet. Yes they did, with the 742's they got from PE, they also had connecti
54 2travel2know2 : LGA-AUA, which may be still in service. ANC-SEA/PDX may qualify in this category too, although those flights actually continued to CO hubs. There were
55 tommy767 : Yeah I remember this -- around 2005/2006 with also the 764 service to HNL I remember this same sort of schedule occuring through 1996. I flew EWR-GSO
56 Post contains images RyanairGuru : The population of Gre As a new resident of Greensboro NC, this hub fascinates me. The glaringly obvious question is WHY? Don't get me wrong, I've fal
57 Post contains links CALTECH : A attempt with CALite. Did not last very long. IIRC, we ran it out of the east wing at Greensboro. It was not a "little corner" of GSO, and not just
58 Post contains images tommy767 : there was a corner where CO operated out of at GSO, and it wasn't a pretty looking corner either
59 globalflyer : I remember after EA collapsed, CO started a bunch of ATL to Mexico routes nonstop like MEX, CUN, CZM and others. I do not remember how long they laste
60 RyanairGuru : I was being tongue-in-cheek, hence the duck. I did understand what you meant. Thanks for the link. And the fifth largest hub! It's difficult to imagi
61 DeltAirlines : They had the North Concourse...the current UA gates were CO gates back then. The North Concourse was expanded back in around 2006, but before it was
62 Antoniemey : Ah, GSO... the place my mother and I ended up thanks to CO shrinking and then closing PDX when I was in 4th grade... With multiple daily flights to G
63 lrgt : BOS-FLL was also L1011 equipment until the "frequency" craze somehow expanded to leisure routes, and the airline provided, at peak-season, hourly 737
64 tpaewr : For some time in the 90s CO flew a triangle both directions from EWR to two Southern cities that escpae me at the moment. Creating a non-stop P2P rout
65 tommy767 : Does anybody recall the start and stop dates for the LGA focus city in the early 2000s? I have zero recollection of this
66 AVLAirlineFreq : Believe it or not, CO Lite had fares so low, it often sucked pax away from RDU and CLT.
67 LHRBFSTrident : LAX-BJX was an odd red-eye that was started relatively recently (but pre-merger), IIRC
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