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FR Emergency Landing In BGY  
User currently offlinePelle From Denmark, joined Apr 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

A Ryanair 737 headed to Norway from Croatia, performed an emergency landing at BGY (Milan) yesterday, after the flight crew experienced problems with an engine.

The plane landed safely at Bergamo, and there were no injuries.

Sourse (danish only): http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Udland/2012/09/09/0909131942.htm


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

Another good job by a FR crew.

User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1846 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

@KL911 I asume you also think that 9/11 was iniated by the Us governement and that the landing of the moon did take place in a Hollywood basement?

You are always defending FR to such an extend that you exactly reach the opposite than what you aim for.
Sure engine failures happen at every single airline, but saying that this was a diversion and not an emergency is simply a false statement.

What is also a fact, is that there seems to be an increase in 'issues' with FR at the moment.

BTW was it a Technical issue or a birdstrike?



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User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1424 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4562 times:
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Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
Another good job by a FR crew.
Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 2):

No need to become a fanboy about anything. Someone posted a simple informative fact about an incident that occurred and it just happened to involved Ryanair. No one mentioned negativity or picking on the airline until you did.

Okay - since there are only 3 replies in this thread (4 counting mine) - I must assume shufflemoomin is replying to rfields5421 - and I'm baffled. rfields... was complimenting the FR crew. What is shufflemoon reading?

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Sure engine failures happen at every single airline, but saying that this was a diversion and not an emergency is simply a false statement.

And now I'm extremely baffled.

Are there replies missing
Mods - did you removed some replies but miss replies that are referring to them?

Maybe somebody should contact support ... - oh....  



rcair1
User currently offlinekl911 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2003, 5479 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Sure engine failures happen at every single airline, but saying that this was a diversion and not an emergency is simply a false statement.

The official statement on Avherald was a diversion. quote: ''a mechanical problem prompted the crew to shut an engine (CFM56) down and divert to Milan Bergamo Airport ''

It is always mentioned there if it is an emergency, so I assumed this was a diversion, not an emergency.


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2189 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

Or an increase in the amount that are reaching the public domain perhaps.

User currently offlineBlueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3253 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4117 times:
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Thanks

[Edited 2012-09-10 00:04:54]

[Edited 2012-09-10 00:05:46]


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User currently offlineBlueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3253 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4114 times:
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My post, exlaining criteria for a full emergency has also been deleted.

Not sure what's going on.   Perhaps a system problem, as I've not had an email from the Mods about it having been deleted by them.

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User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 480 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3951 times:

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 4):
I must assume shufflemoomin is replying to rfields5421

Yeah, there was a trolling post about how people only post negative info about Ryanair and ignore all other airlines. All the other posts relating to it are gone but mine remains. I assume they missed it by accident. I've requested it be removed to avoid confusion.  


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 3114 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3833 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 4):

According to Oxford dictionnary this is the definition of a diversion:
[mass noun] the action of turning something aside from its course: the diversion of resources from defence to civil research.

So it was a diversion due to an emergency which occured mid-flight. I believe when a flying aircraft loses one of its engines it is quite serious otherwise they would not feel the need to divert into Bergamo.


User currently offlineBlueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3253 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3833 times:
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Quoting kl911 (Reply 4):
It is always mentioned there if it is an emergency, so I assumed this was a diversion, not an emergency.

To assume makes an ass of u and me.  

Facts are quite simple;

engine out,
emergency declared,
full emergency instigated at diversion airfield,
emergency vehicles for arrival of the aircraft,
aircraft lands safely, no further action required.

Classic case of text book emergency, full emergency initiated at airfield, diversion and safe landing.

Incident ended.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14595 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

An inflight shutdown is a reportable incident (it has to be reported to the relevant aviation authorities within IIRC 24 hours).
The QRH says for an inflight shutdown to land at the next suitable airport, which the pilots did. As obviously you don´t want to hang around in the air with only one working engine on a big jet, the crew declared an emergency to get priority assistance by ATC.
As I don´t know what caused the engine shutdown and how it manifested itself, there exists the possibility that the engine gave up it´s ghost with a loud bang and vibrations. In this case the crew, who could not in the air assess the possible damage, most likely treated it as serious damage and wanted to get back on the ground ASAP.

Jan



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User currently offlinepelle From Denmark, joined Apr 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

Yes, some weird modding has been done in this thread. I'd also say that loosing an engine mid-air counts as a but more than a diversion, although diverting to BGY was part of the solution to this emergency.

I also want to make it clear that I did not post this because I have anything against Ryanair (because I don't), I would have posted this no matter which European airline was responsible for the flight.



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User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 4):
It is always mentioned there if it is an emergency, so I assumed this was a diversion, not an emergency.



Diversion is a consequence of an engine out. So Engine out is the main reason (therefore emergency was declared). Not the other way around.



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User currently offlinekl911 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2003, 5479 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Thanks all for correcting me here!  

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