multimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 745 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5544 times:
I lnow the easy answer is one of the hangars was inherited from CP. But given that it has been @12 years since the merger, why do they still retain their original hangar and the CP Ops building? And given that they're trying to lease out hangar space in the CP building, why not just sell off their original AC hangar and consolidate everything in the Ops complex? It seems to me they'd have plenty of space, and could probably even accommodate Jazz operations all under one roof.
My16sidedoffice From Canada, joined Dec 2011, 12 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5205 times:
It would make sense to move into the old Canadian Ops center as the whole facility is so much larger. I can only imagine though how many feathers that would ruffle from the old school Air Canada employees. Either way it's a lot of money tied up operating 2 large facilities.
Jazz has their own hangar and is a separate entity so sharing hangar space isn't really a good idea.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5205 times:
Quoting multimark (Thread starter): why not just sell off their original AC hangar and consolidate everything in the Ops complex?
Before they can sell something as large as an aircraft hanger - there has to be a buyer.
What airlines/ businesses in Vancouver are looking to buy a hanger that large?
airforceone From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4766 times:
I was wondering why Westjet would not buy it. For a while there was a plan to flatten Burkeville and build a hanger for Westjet there. Now Westjet uses the old hanger where the BCIT use to be and they can only fit one plane in there at a time.
pictues From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4447 times:
Actually per space the original ac hanger can hold more planes at once, during the strike in 98 air Canada put 7 planes into their hanger in yvr. Max for the content hanger in one spot is 5. But yes using the whole cp hanger you can put a more aircraft
qblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2609 times:
I believe that Westjet is using the old BCIT hanger on the south side. But all they do there with the plane is minor maintenance and wash there aircraft. I think YVR bought the AC hanger to help AC when they where cash strapped and AC is now just leasing it. YVR also owns the JAZZ hanger and also just leasing. The old CP hanger was with AVEOS and is now empty all tooling have been auctioned off and is all gone. Air Transat some times rent the last bay in the old CP hanger for the winter for some minor repairs and keep aircraft warm when layover is few days.
slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2452 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2166 times:
My first question was who would want the other one? What is the point of consolidation if no one wants the other one?
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 10): My first question was who would want the other one? What is the point of consolidation if no one wants the other one?
Reply 9 says AC is leasing their former hangar from the YVR airport authority. If they don't need it and could cancel the lease they could presumably save the lease payments.
multimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 745 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Quoting YYCFlyer (Reply 2): One hangar is used for Jazz Air and the other is used for Air Canada.
No, there's actually three hangars involved there. North of Grant McConachie Way is the CP Ops building with its hangars (now AC). South of Grant McConachie Way is the large AC hangar, and beside it a smaller hangar for Jazz.
As stated, it seems to me everything could be consolidated into the CP building.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24 Reply 13, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1621 times:
Quoting multimark (Reply 12): Quoting YYCFlyer (Reply 2):
One hangar is used for Jazz Air and the other is used for Air Canada.
No, there's actually three hangars involved there. North of Grant McConachie Way is the CP Ops building with its hangars (now AC). South of Grant McConachie Way is the large AC hangar, and beside it a smaller hangar for Jazz.
As stated, it seems to me everything could be consolidated into the CP building.
The former CP Ops Centre (now AC) hangar is bigger than both of the old AC hangars combined.
Both of the original AC hangars in this photo. The smaller and older one on the left was built around 1960. The larger hangar on the right opened sometime in the 1970s if memory correct.
The older hangar (then TCA) in the early '60s soon after it opened, with one of every member of the fleet at the time (DC-8, Vanguard, Viscount). The vacant land on the far (north) side became the site of the CP Ops Centre several years later. It opened in 1969, soon after the new terminal opened. When the photo below was taken there was almost nothing else in that area as the passenger terminal was still the old, very inadequate facility on the south side of the airport.
The ex-CP, now AC hangar when under previous management.
When under construction in the mid-60s. It was enlarged by around 1/3 about 10 years later. The houses and buildings in the distance are long gone and are now covered by runway 08L/26R.
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