richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 6 Posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1476 times:
I was scanning some of my parents' old slides from the 1970s and came across this TWA L-1011 photo. I believe the photo was taken at LAX in 1978 (sorry for the poor quality, the film has deteriorated somewhat) and it clearly shows the number "11023" on the fuselage.
Are there any TWA livery experts who can tell me what this number is? I have looked for "N11023" and I cannot locate this registration on any TWA or L-1011 fleet lists. I wondered if perhaps "1023" was the construction number, similar to other period construction numbers for this type, but the corresponding L-1011 never flew for TWA as far as I can tell.
Can anybody tell me the registration number and/or history of this aircraft? Obviously it is long gone now but I'd be curious to know anyway.
Blueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2515 posts, RR: 25 Reply 2, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1477 times:
Quoting richierich (Thread starter): Are there any TWA livery experts who can tell me what this number is? I have looked for "N11023" and I cannot locate this registration on any TWA or L-1011 fleet lists.
Is it not N31023 ? Could be some deterioration on the slide or shadow making it look like 11023.
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sevenheavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1126 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1477 times:
It's N31023, DD jun'74.
Most of TWA's fleet carried a slightly different number on the nose, usually similar to the registration, but used as an internal ship number. AA and probably others do a similar thing.
Interestingly, this L-1011 carried 11023 on the nose in this livery, and 21023 when it had the red stripe livery applied. Possibly a way of noting which livery a particular aircraft had.
This aircraft survived until recently In Kingman, but has sadly now been broken up
richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1477 times:
Quoting Blueshamu330s (Reply 2): Is it not N31023 ? Could be some deterioration on the slide or shadow making it look like 11023.
After familiarizing myself with TW's fleet list from that time period, I think N31023 is the most likely candidate for this aircraft. However the number on the forward fuselage clearly reads "11023" and I don't think there is enough deterioration to get "31023" out of it! I'm wondering if the first digit "1" is to identify this aircraft as a L-1011-1 (as opposed to a -500 series) added to the last four digits of the registration number "1023"... that seems to make the most sense to me.
richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1477 times:
Quoting sevenheavy (Reply 3): Most of TWA's fleet carried a slightly different number on the nose, usually similar to the registration, but used as an internal ship number. AA and probably others do a similar thing.
Interestingly, this L-1011 carried 11023 on the nose in this livery, and 21023 when it had the red stripe livery applied. Possibly a way of noting which livery a particular aircraft had.
milesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1855 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 1477 times:
Quoting richierich (Reply 4): After familiarizing myself with TW's fleet list from that time period, I think N31023 is the most likely candidate for this aircraft. However the number on the forward fuselage clearly reads "11023" and I don't think there is enough deterioration to get "31023" out of it! I'm wondering if the first digit "1" is to identify this aircraft as a L-1011-1 (as opposed to a -500 series) added to the last four digits of the registration number "1023"... that seems to make the most sense to me.
TWA never operated the L-1011-500. As was posted above, the fleet numbers, while similar to the registration numbers, are seldom identical. If you famliarized yourself with the pictures of the L-1011's in the original double globe livery on this site, you would find the oldest photo shows N15017 and it has 11017 in the nose; N31031 is 11031; N31018 is 11018, etc., etc., etc.
ATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1361 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1406 times:
Quoting sevenheavy (Reply 3): This aircraft survived until recently In Kingman, but has sadly now been broken up
Here is 2 videos showing its interior and exterior shortly before it was broken up.
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but I'd be curious to know anyway.
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