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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Hi guys,

The Wikipedia entries for both SJC and MCO state that AS is going to start SJC-MCO service on about Oct. 13. That's the same day (actually I think it's 10/11) that AS does start SAN-MCO, which is also listed in Wiki.

Is the SJC-MCO route an error in Wiki, or does someone know something that we don't know?

I was looking at the SJC page in Wikipedia so see if NH was listed yet as serving SJC and ran across the info that shows MCO as a new AS destination from SJC. As I said, SAN is correctly shown separately on the MCO page, so whoever put that in Wiki didn't simply mistake SJC for SAN.

What gives?

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User currently offlinehiflyeras From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Has to be a typo....would love to see that in the future though!!

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 1):
Has to be a typo....would love to see that in the future though!!

Like I said, there is both SAN and SJC for AS, shown as starting the same day, on Wiki's MCO page. And it's on the SJC page. I had thought the person just mistook SJC for SAN, but SAN is still correctly shown also.

Yeah, I'd love to see more AS expansion out of SJC, but it doesn't doesn't seem to be happening, after some initial expansion (Hawaii, SJD, etc). AUS and GEG have actually been discontinued.

AS dropping AUS; not starting SJC-BOS when B6 dropped it for last Winter; and passing on SNA slots for QX (when I'd like to have seen them start SJC-SNA) made me think that AS was not going to continue building up SJC as a focus-city, unfortunately.

I'd love to see AS add (or reinstate) PVR, GEG, SNA, TUS, AUS, MEX, ORD, MCO, RDU and BOS from SJC.


User currently offlineana787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

I'd expect a return of PDX-MCO before SJC-MCO. PDX after all is an AS hub, not SJC. And SFO already has nonstop flights to MCO.

[Edited 2012-09-10 18:55:09 by ANA787]

User currently offlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

If it does not have a citation next to it, I would skeptical.


John@SFO
User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5445 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

Quoting ana787 (Reply 3):
I'd expect a return of PDX-MCO before SJC-MCO. PDX after all is an AS hub, not SJC. And SFO already has nonstop flights to MCO.

True. However, they added a PDX-SJC-XXX flight awhile back, though the "XXX" escapes me now.

-Dave



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User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 837 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Yeah, I'd love to see more AS expansion out of SJC, but it doesn't doesn't seem to be happening, after some initial expansion (Hawaii, SJD, etc). AUS and GEG have actually been discontinued.


With an increase to daily service to all 4 Hawaiian Islands since April, 2x daily (and very successful) flights to RNO since June, PSP returning in November, and daily to GDL and SJD coming up in December, AS has MORE than enough to keep it busy at SJC. Believe me! Expect to see a dozen new faces on the front line as hiring continues throughout the fall to keep up.

Tomas SJC



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User currently offlinehiflyeras From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 923 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

I think any perceived slowdown in growth out of SJC is due to the lack of aircraft for trying new routes. Hawaii flying has been such a great success...and AS wants to have a substantial foothold into all Hawaii markets they're serving prior to any new entrants appearing (WN, VX. G4). It looks like they're successful in that regard and should have much of their current network to themselves for a while longer.

Once the few remaining holes in the Hawaii market are filled I believe you'll see new and returning routes out of SEA, PDX, SJC and SAN.


User currently offlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Update: no longer showing in Wikipedia. No go for AS to MCO.


John@SFO
User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 7):
Once the few remaining holes in the Hawaii market are filled I believe you'll see new and returning routes out of SEA, PDX, SJC and SAN.


Any hints?

Off-hand I can think of the following discontinued routes that may be candidates to return:

SEA: DCA, CUN
PDX: MCO, TUS (very short time), SJD, PVR
SJC: GEG, PVR, TUS, AUS
SAN: BOI


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 837 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
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Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 7):
I think any perceived slowdown in growth out of SJC is due to the lack of aircraft for trying new routes


Actually, it is possible to use a RON aircraft on a SJC-East Coast redeye and have it return in time for a mid morning Hawaii or SEA departure. Currently there are 4 to 5 (depending on the day of the week) aircraft that overnight at SJC. I believe that scenario has been suggested to "The Emerald Tower" by local management and airport authorities, who would like to see further AS growth at SJC.



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User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Any hints?

Off-hand I can think of the following discontinued routes that may be candidates to return:

SEA: DCA, CUN
PDX: MCO, TUS (very short time), SJD, PVR
SJC: GEG, PVR, TUS, AUS
SAN: BOI

Add PDX-DEN, PDX-RNO, PDX-RDD to that list.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 11):

Add PDX-DEN, PDX-RNO, PDX-RDD to that list.

Yep. I didn't include the QX destinations like ACV, LMT, PDT, etc but did forget about PDX-DEN.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 10):
I believe that scenario has been suggested to "The Emerald Tower" by local management and airport authorities, who would like to see further AS growth at SJC.

Any hints? What would be the most likely if AS started a transcon from SJC? FLL? MCO? BOS? DCA (slot permitting)?

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
SEA: DCA, CUN

Surprised no-one caught this. I meant IAD, of course.


User currently offlinesjc4me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
True. However, they added a PDX-SJC-XXX flight awhile back, though the "XXX" escapes me now.

-Dave

It was the AUS flight.



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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
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As a side-note, I notice in AS magazine they don't even show their SEA-MCO route.


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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5445 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

Quoting sjc4me (Reply 13):
It was the AUS flight.

Ah, that's right. Well, that didn't last I guess.

-Dave



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User currently offlineJetAmericaS80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

It would not surprise me to see some future expansion from SJC or the rest of the Bay Area. Just the other day an AS captain was telling me that they were sent a survey asking, if AS were to open a new crew base, which of the four options would they prefer. Options were SAN, HNL, OGG, and Bay Area (SJC/OAK/SFO). Now it's very possible this means nothing, but it was interesting nonetheless. It would be nice to see AS compete with Volaris out of OAK, if the market is there. On a side note, it was very interesting to find out on my last pass through OAK that SATA flies there! Who would have guessed?

JetA



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 14):

Still shows it on the route map.

KH



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