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American Eagle - Rename That Airline!  
User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14630 times:

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/

"AMR Eagle president and chief executive officer Dan Garton told his employees Wednesday that the addition of SkyWest as an American Airlines partner will impact AMR Eagle’s operations."

One of the changes - the airline will rename itself.


Interesting changes, particularly replacing 44 seaters with 50 seaters, given one of their biggest competitors is looking to cut 50 seaters as much as possible - and they're going to end the 'Connection' brand - in order to expand the 'Eagle' brand - only to change it.


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User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14593 times:

I don't think they're talking about just re-naming American Eagle.....

[Edited 2012-09-12 07:26:30]

User currently offlineb6a322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14536 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 1):
It can't possibly become American Express for obvious reasons.

Well I'm not so sure about that...it would certainly take the pressure off of designing a new logo. Available on the cheap, too. 

But at the same time...American Connection doesn't sound too bad.

[Edited 2012-09-12 07:37:09]


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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14383 times:

Quoting b6a322 (Reply 2):
Available on the cheap, too.

Ha. I know a few folks down at AmEx who'd love to get on here and respond to you about that ;0



Also, Bloomberg reports Skywest will fly 23 planes for AMR.

[Edited 2012-09-12 07:45:33]


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User currently offlineBC77008 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14213 times:

I think what he means is that the airline will rename itself from American Connection to American Eagle.


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User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5151 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14143 times:

Too bad American Express is taken.  


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User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14111 times:

Well, it makes sense that AMR needs to change the name of the regional airline they own from AE to something else so they can use the AE brand for ALL regionals they will have.

I like the brand consistency this will create.

Now, the big question still not addressed is the long-term plan for (current AE) regional under AMR. That has to be addressed, but it seems like they are not going to the route of DL and shut it down.
They are in BK, they need to take the opportunity to fix the structure. Maybe making the current regional in AMR a 70-90 seater flier they will make it easier to spin it off at a later date.


User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14092 times:

American Widgeon? American Robin?

Wait, wrong set of associations...


User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1600 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14032 times:

Quoting stlgph (Thread starter):
Interesting changes, particularly replacing 44 seaters with 50 seaters, given one of their biggest competitors is looking to cut 50 seaters as much as possible - and they're going to end the 'Connection' brand - in order to expand the 'Eagle' brand - only to change it.

Keep in mind that one problem remains their heavily restricted large RJ flying. I don't mean to overstate that case, but they don't have as many options (yet) for adding RJ capacity as their competitors, so 50 seaters may be about the best they can do.


User currently onlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14019 times:

Why didnt they jus expand the american connection brand? Have the contracted flying fly under american connection and american eagle remain eagle....simple.

User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14019 times:

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 8):
Keep in mind that one problem remains their heavily restricted large RJ flying. I don't mean to overstate that case, but they don't have as many options (yet) for adding RJ capacity as their competitors, so 50 seaters may be about the best they can do.

Well it's nice their 50 seaters are finding a new home with cut backs in 50 seat flying at DL and UA



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 13983 times:

Quoting stlgph (Thread starter):
One of the changes - the airline will rename itself.

Your premise is wrong. The Eagle name is staying. AA itself says . . .

Quote:
As a result of the rebranding exercise, we will eventually discontinue the use of the AmericanConnection brand and will use the American Eagle brand for all of our regional partners. All other mainlines have one brand for their regional partners.



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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 13894 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):

Let's revisit.


http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...st-changes-at-american-eagle.html/

“Although we all share a pride with the American Eagle name, the name and the brand belong to AMR, and it is not surprising that American would want to have a consistent brand for all of its regional flying – just as all other mainlines have one brand for their regional partners,” Garton wrote.

“So, for now, we will continue to be American Eagle Airlines, but over the coming months we will be looking into creating a new name and identity for our company and our people,” his message said.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 13855 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 12):
Let's revisit.

But aside from the union, is anyone saying that? We have had Executive (OW) operating as American Eagle and American Eagle Airlines (MQ) operating as American Eagle for some time.



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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 13838 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 13):

American Eagle's ceo Dan Garton is saying the name will eventually change from American Eagle.

I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 13735 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 14):
American Eagle's ceo Dan Garton is saying the name will eventually change from American Eagle.

The name, but not the brand. So I say who cares? It's not like anyone who doesn't work for American or hang out on a.net knows that OW is called Executive.



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1441 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 13512 times:

Quote:
American Eagle's ceo Dan Garton is saying the name will eventually change from American Eagle.

So it will be American Eagle operated by [new name]. So American eagle will be the Delta Connection of American and the actual American Eagle airlines will be renamed. For the customer this is no big deal, it's like ASA and ExpressJet merging.

To me this sounds like spin off prep so there wouldn't be a naming rights problem...



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User currently onlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 13298 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 16):
So it will be American Eagle operated by [new name]. So American eagle will be the Delta Connection of American and the actual American Eagle airlines will be renamed. For the customer this is no big deal, it's like ASA and ExpressJet merging.

To me this sounds like spin off prep so there wouldn't be a naming rights problem...

Exactly. The American Eagle brand will remain, and it will be used by all the regional airlines who fly for AA. The problem is that American Eagle is also the name of the actual American Eagle Airlines, and that's what will need to change.

- American Eagle [operated by American Eagle Airlines].
- American Eagle [operated by Skywest Airlines].
- American Eagle [operated by Expressjet Airlines].
- American Eagle [operated by Chautauqua Airlines].

The first one is the one who will change.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 13265 times:

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 6):
but it seems like they are not going to the route of DL and shut it down.

At least not yet.

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 9):
Why didnt they jus expand the american connection brand?

The American Eagle name is far larger, has far more of a history, and is far more recognized in a lot of places. American Connection is today 15 jets flying in and out of a few Upper Midwest markets from ORD.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 16):
So it will be American Eagle operated by [new name]. So American eagle will be the Delta Connection of American and the actual American Eagle airlines will be renamed. For the customer this is no big deal, it's like ASA and ExpressJet merging.

Exactly. And remember - this is already how American Eagle operated for the first 15 years of its existence. Beginning in November 1984 and for nearly 15 years after, Eagle was operated by various individual companies, some eventually owned by AMR and some not. It was not until 1998 that AMR actually bought up all four of their major Eagle operators and merged three of them into what is now called American Eagle Airlines, Inc.


User currently offlinepu From Sweden, joined Dec 2011, 724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 13113 times:

If you bother to check American Eagle's recruiting page, they have been big time recruiting for non-benefitted ground personnel in a large number of stations. The once great Air Wisconsin is on its way to becoming a pure ground handler with no flying after their US contract expires. Will Eagle migrate to become a pure ground handler with no flying? The ground services arm of AMR to compete with Delta Global, AirWisconsin, GAT, etc?

...American Ground Services...AGS...a good name...

Pu


User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 13051 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 18):
Exactly. And remember - this is already how American Eagle operated for the first 15 years of its existence. Beginning in November 1984 and for nearly 15 years after, Eagle was operated by various individual companies, some eventually owned by AMR and some not. It was not until 1998 that AMR actually bought up all four of their major Eagle operators and merged three of them into what is now called American Eagle Airlines, Inc.

It is crazy how history repeats itself. I will wager there will soon be more than 4 carriers flying under the American Eagle banner again.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 12991 times:

Please continue the discussion in the following thread:

Skywest Might Operate For AA (by LAXintl Sep 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)


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