It is mentioned that authorities from the Chinese province of Hainan, recently visited the Mexican Caribbean resort of Cancun to meet with local authorities. The top topic was to discuss the feasibility of commencing directs flights by Hainan Airlines, during the third quarter of 2013, between Beijing and Cancun. No further details were given, but it is mentioned in the article, that HU would be using 787-8s to run the proposed new service.
Lots of talking in the past, in regards to flights from China to Mexico by a Chinese carrier. Nothing has materialized just yet. At his time, Aeromexico remains the only airline providing direct links between the two countries ( MEX-PVG v v ).
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thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11039 times:
Quoting XA744 (Thread starter): The top topic was to discuss the feasibility of commencing directs flights by Hainan Airlines, during the third quarter of 2013, between Beijing and Cancun
PEK-CUN, a 12,817 km VFR route.... That would be a first!
Even a one stop via say, MEX, would make little sense.
Thenoflyzone
[Edited 2012-09-13 07:33:19]
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
777222LR From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 107 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10918 times:
LOL, perhaps with almost FULL government subsidy....
BTW, the only logical stopping point would either be in Canada or the US, and I doubt any of that will happen. I'm not sure a flight could take off from MEX and fly nonstop to PEK, giving altitude at MEX.
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10696 times:
Quoting 777222LR (Reply 2): LOL, perhaps with almost FULL government subsidy....
There was a fascinating article in the last Economist about countries and cities trying to court the Chinese tourist markets. Apparently, Chinese tourists spend a ton more money than most others, and are becoming a very, VERY important demographic in the travel business. Not saying there would be a full government subsidy, of course, but Cancun trying hard to attract Chinese tourists would not be a crazy thing.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10345 times:
At one time, HU had expressed interest in tagging their SEA service with MEX...along with KE.
XA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9583 times:
Quoting g500 (Reply 4): see Hainan airlies starting services to Mexico City with the 787 in the next two or three years, and I think they would be succesfull there.
I don't know about Cancun, might be better to code-share it through MEX
I concur !!!
Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 6): All of this being said, i fail to see how a tiny little B788 with 215 seats will perform profitably on such a long and thin segment that is PEK-CUN.
You are very right here. Like g500 mentioned, It would be more feasible to code share, a possible servicee to CUN, ex MEX with Aeromexico.
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16814 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9363 times:
Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 6): All of this being said, i fail to see how a tiny little B788 with 215 seats will perform profitably on such a long and thin segment that is PEK-CUN.
Well, the 788 was designed for long, thin routes...
Bobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1360 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6097 times:
Quoting g500 (Reply 4): I don't know about Cancun, might be better to code-share it through MEX
My guess is the Chinese would want to fly nonstop to their destination and spend as little time as possible making connections after a ULH flight in a strange and foreign nation that is suseptible to crime.
bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5789 times:
I am looking at my calendar. Today is NOT April 1.
Quoting 777222LR (Reply 2): the only logical stopping point would either be in Canada or the US,
Could they even get 5th freedom rights between USA/Canada and Mexico? That's the only way they would have a chance to succeed on such a route, and I'm not giving that much of a chance either.
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1950 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5701 times:
If true, this route would be even more poorly conceived than MH's KUL-LAX-MEX route. It's amazing that in this day in age, there are airlines who completely lose their minds on absurd routes.
timpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4271 times:
Or just behave like so many other parts of the world with a normal transit process sans the need for a visa, just change planes at LAX like I can go from LA to BKK via Beijing Without a China Visa.
XA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1672 times:
Quoting PA110 (Reply 12): If true, this route would be even more poorly conceived than MH's KUL-LAX-MEX route. It's amazing that in this day in age, there are airlines who completely lose their minds on absurd routes.
Well, believe it or not, MH's fifth freedom sectors LAX-MEX-LAX, were averaging 90 PLF, when traffic rights were removed from the airline by the Mexivan government, back in 1998.
Yes, as absurd as it may sound to you !!!
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