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TK Does It Again, Pax No. Up 20%  
User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4427 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

TK passenger numbers up 20%, Jan-Aug year on year;
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...s-passengers-idUSI7E8JE00E20120913
This includes 46.5% increase on transit pax, and 45% increase in J/Y+ pax.
Load factor still at 77%.
Also,
TK Cargo gets an award;
http://awards.payloadasia.com/en/winners.asp

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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

Very good news! TK has always struck me as a top-notch airline and this kinda proves it!

I guess the new flight to JFK is working them if numbers are up!


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4161 times:
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Not long ago they reorganized their flights to the Balkans in order to facilitate connections to North America. Not to mention that, at least in Belgrade, they have had a very agressive marketing campaign. I guess all of that finally paid off.

User currently offlineIFlyTWA From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

Good to hear. I flew on TK last month and couldn't be more satisfied.


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User currently offlinePIEAvantiP180 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4110 times:
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Quoting ju068 (Reply 2):

But how much connecting traffic do you think they actually get to connect to the Americas. All the western hubs are more suitable for this purpose and I nor anyone else who regularly visits the ex YU states would ever consider going thru Istanbul just to get there. We both know why TK and JAT fly this route is the big o&d market that's there plus any connection they get is just gravy. Everybody knows if you want good quality and cheap clothes, jewelry, and gold you go to Turkey lol. My aunts in laws who all live in Novi Beograd make the trip at least once or twice a year.

Back to topic, glad to see TK doing great with their expansion. I just hope the new Istanbul airport gets built on time for them to continue since the current one is about to burst at the seems.


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4075 times:
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Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 4):

Well, Belgrade-Istanbul is just over an hour so one doesn't really have to backtrack. Plus, Turkish Airlines usually charges the same Lufthansa or Air France do, but still offers a far superior product. The fact that they still promote it means that they have captured a share of the market. TK's brand is very well known in Serbia and I guess that is what helped them.
But regardless of all this, TK's main aim in Belgrade is the market from Serbia->Middle East/South Africa/Asia.

Also I think we are overestimating the market between Belgrade and Istanbul. OK, there is a market in summer but during winter time not so much.


On a totally unrelated note, how much longer can Turkish Airlines expand in Istanbul before the airports becomes a Heathrow?


User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 4):
But how much connecting traffic do you think they actually get to connect to the Americas.

They do get connecting traffic since most (or all?) Balkan states have regional airlines at best. They lure passengers away from other European airlines with their fares, which are pretty good. Backtracking is not that bad, especially if the price is right. I almost booked TK this summer for LAX-IST-ATH but found a cheaper last-minute fare with BA.

[Edited 2012-09-14 17:15:47]

[Edited 2012-09-14 17:16:14]

User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Looking forward to seeing TK here in Houston next year. It's been 15 years since I was last in Turkey, just might have to take advantage of this service next year.


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User currently offlinehhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Now they just need to arrange the slot between IST and BAH so the connection times are reasonable.

User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Getting pax no.s up is easy. But what percentage of that is reflected in revenue? The latter is what is really important.


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User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
On a totally unrelated note, how much longer can Turkish Airlines expand in Istanbul before the airports becomes a Heathrow?

Very relevant question, actually ... totally related to the thread title. Unless Istanbul gets a new airport soon enough ... this growth trend can't sustain!  


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 9):
Getting pax no.s up is easy. But what percentage of that is reflected in revenue? The latter is what is really important.

Revenues are keeping up quite well.

As recently announced for the first 6-months of 2012

Some details:
Revenue - 6.7bil TL (+36%)
Passengers - 18mil (+20%)
ASK - +19%
RPK - +24%
Load Factor - 75.2% (+5.7%)



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2945 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
On a totally unrelated note, how much longer can Turkish Airlines expand in Istanbul before the airports becomes a Heathrow?
Quoting ASA (Reply 10):
Very relevant question, actually ... totally related to the thread title. Unless Istanbul gets a new airport soon enough ... this growth trend can't sustain!

There are plans to build a NEW airport with capacity to handle 100million passengers & 5 runways... The location has been kept a secret...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1394048&page=2

EK413



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User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 12):
There are plans to build a NEW airport with capacity to handle 100million passengers & 5 runways... The location has been kept a secret...

Thanks, EK413. Yes, patiently waiting for details on the new airport for a while now.

And new widebody orders from TK ...   


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

They will hurt themself eventually, IST is getting more and more clogged up every day and nobody is working on a solution for that major problem.


'Every year donkeys and mules kill more people than plane crashes'
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 12):
Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
On a totally unrelated note, how much longer can Turkish Airlines expand in Istanbul before the airports becomes a Heathrow?
Quoting ASA (Reply 10):
Very relevant question, actually ... totally related to the thread title. Unless Istanbul gets a new airport soon enough ... this growth trend can't sustain!

There are plans to build a NEW airport with capacity to handle 100million passengers & 5 runways... The location has been kept a secret...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1394048&page=2

EK413
Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 14):

They will hurt themself eventually, IST is getting more and more clogged up every day and nobody is working on a solution for that major problem.

'Every year donkeys and mules kill more people than plane crashes'

Umm they are looking at resolving the problem by building a NEW airport or did you skip my previous post?

EK413



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 15):
Umm they are looking at resolving the problem by building a NEW airport or did you skip my previous post?

Yes, but when are they actually going to start building this new airport and when will it be fully operational? They haven't even decided who is going to build it yet (I'm not even sure that they have sent out the tenders yet-the newest article I can find says that they intended to do so by the end of last month, but I can't find anymore new info). Until then it is just all talk while the IST passengers suffer.


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
On a totally unrelated note, how much longer can Turkish Airlines expand in Istanbul before the airports becomes a Heathrow?

Istambul will be a super ATL when Heathrow still will be Heathrow...


User currently offlineyegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1725 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Well, that doesn't surprise me one bit. TK has been capitalizing on the poor service that major Western European carriers offer. And they are serving many destinations that are overlooked by the major carriers.

That in addition to the lack of major service into North America from most Eastern Europe makes TK another alternative - but with a far superior service. It also helps when TK doesn't charge extra for stopovers.

I had the pleasure of flying TK last summer. Great service and competitive fares.


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 15):
Umm they are looking at resolving the problem by building a NEW airport or did you skip my previous post?

No, I didn't skip your post. The story of a new airport has been going for many years now and so far nothing happened, therefore my reply.  



'Every year donkeys and mules kill more people than plane crashes'
User currently offlinetk1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 19):
The story of a new airport has been going for many years now and so far nothing happened

Planning an airport isn't the same as planning to order a new aircraft of launch a new destination... To come up with a good airport, you need to plan everything carefully and look many many years ahead. You should contact Prof. Ing. Antonín Kazda, who knows a lot about this subject  



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