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US Military Charter Flights TO/FROM Europe  
User currently onlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 5
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

I know the majority of these flights were operated by airlines such as ATA, Miami Air, North American, Omni & Ryan International, im almost certain that DL (747) NW (DC-10, 747) & UA (747) flew some of these charters too. What im not so sure about is, did CO with 737-900ER & 757-300 aircraft & NW (or DL) with 757-300's operate some of these flights? I vaguely remember seeing photo's of those aircraft in Europe on the internet so I presume it was for this reason. Can anyone confirm?

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6177 times:

Quoting eicvd (Thread starter):
did CO with 737-900ER & 757-300



I don't believe CO ever flew the 900 or 753 for military charters however, I do know they did them with 772.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6098 times:

Here is a chartered Delta B772 at TRD back in march, bringing US soldiers to a NATO exercise in Norway:

Rare Visitor At TRD: Chartered DL B772 ER (pics) (by Mortyman Mar 6 2012 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=5406233&searchid=5406828&s=DL+at+TRD#ID5406828


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6093 times:
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the 737-800 / 757-200, along with the widebody flights did military charters in Europe/Asia.


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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Northwest did a ton of Military charters, before the merger most of them stopped in AMS, after the merger many of them now stop at HHN.


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User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5890 times:

NW indeed used AMS a lot, usually with 747-200. I quite often see Omni, North American and World on flightradar24 above Hungary, I guess between European bases and the Middle East, or maybe even nonstop from the US.

User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 548 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5721 times:

Sub-CO is doing a TON of military charters currently. As well as the usual sport charters... Where they go, when they go I can't really share that. But, the pilots,especially priors, eat them UP!

User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5640 times:

Saw ATA 757 200s March 2008 LiepZig Germany, Along our aging beautiful DC-10, ...Cherry Point, Bangor, LiepZig, Djibouti ......
Longest takeoff roll ever going trans Atlantic, I know my bags waged a total of 100lbs give or take plus a 50 pound pack, 20 lbs flak and sapi inserts...x a full to the gills Dc-10 it was brutally long

Saw omni birds in Bangor

The World Airways crew were awesome


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9746 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Leipzig is a regular tech nstop, as is HHN.

Some 20 years ago, I think it was the Kosovo war, we had all kind of military charters in FRA as well, besides the regular MAC charters. Hawaian L101s1 were quite exotic here.



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User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4878 times:

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 7):
The World Airways crew were awesome

So are you guys!

For the most part working a Military Charter for us flight attendants is pure pleasure. Military people are by far the nicest, friendliest and most cooperative passengers one can imagine. Everybody is like: Thank You Sir, no problem Sir, I/We gladly do that... versus many people complaining, arguing and being self-centered...

At least for me every MAC flight I ever worked was a great experience.

However of course we prefer flying you back home over flying you out there. Flying these people out always has a somehow bitter aftertaste. Flying them home is an honor and pleasure!

I miss doing MAC flights!

Best regards

L1011Lover


User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4753 times:

Atlas Air runs a number of these almost daily using passenger 767-300s and 747-400s.


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 9):
At least for me every MAC flight I ever worked was a great experience.
Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 9):
I miss doing MAC flights!

The term MAC or Military Airlift Command is no longer a valid acronym. It changed in 1996 or so. The new term is AMC or Air Mobility Command.



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User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 11):

Well I only ever did MAC flights, because 1997 or 1998 might have been the last time I ever did such a flight... So I never knew the term MAC is no longer in use... lol...

Thanx for the clarification...


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4123 times:

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 12):

Sehr gut!



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User currently onlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

There are pictures of a CO 777 in ANC and the caption says its for a military charter.

Unrelated, but how do crews (pilots and FA's) bid to operate charters, whether they are AMC, sports, large groups, etc... ?



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User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3791 times:
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Over the years at the various military bases, I have seen an amazing amount of commercial airliners doing troop transports and it's been great! I was in Okinawa, Japan, and Mildenhall, England. Saw many, many 747's of various types, DC-10's, MD-11's, 767's, 777's, and several carriers (Evergreen, ATA, North American, World, Southern Air, and ATI, an unimagineable amount of times), and while in Deigo Garcia saw my first CO 772 and then later on another one in Okinawa. It was nice that UA and NWA were frequent visitors to Mildenhall and Kadena over the years. But, around late 2004, that all seemed to fade away fast. However, I personally never was able to see a CO 753 or 739 (as the thread is about) as heading that far into the Pacific would not have been feasable for those awesome birds. That would have been pretty awesome.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 3741 times:

TZ did fly their B-757-300s to and from Europe on MAC charters.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3625 times:
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Quoting 135mech (Reply 15):

there was a 737-800 in DEL/KWI/SNN/FRA back in the 2005/6 time frame. Same with 757-200s.



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User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3538 times:
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Quoting CALMSP (Reply 17):
Quoting 135mech (Reply 15):


there was a 737-800 in DEL/KWI/SNN/FRA back in the 2005/6 time frame. Same with 757-200s.

Cool, like I said, I personally never got to witness them. Were they for the military charters?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 16):
TZ did fly their B-757-300s to and from Europe on MAC charters.

Nice. Would have been great to see! We didn't always get to the best locations with the tankers as time went on w/ those lovely budget cuts, and many trips ended up with a late arrival and early departure.

I was just looking for tickets and saw that DL is flying a 753 from MSP to HNL (ugh 11h 34 m) non stop... KILL ME! LOL Didn't realize that the 753 had that range...I knew the 752 was long though.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Quoting 135mech (Reply 18):
I was just looking for tickets and saw that DL is flying a 753 from MSP to HNL (ugh 11h 34 m) non stop... KILL ME! LOL Didn't realize that the 753 had that range...I knew the 752 was long though.

The B-757-300 has a range of about 3400 nm, the B-757-300W has a range of about 3600 nm.

GCM shows the distance to be 3450 nm, so you will be flying on one with winglets. But at 450 knots, the flight time is 7 h 45 m. Are you stopping somewhere along the way?


User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3459 times:
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Atlas 767s flew the Naval academy mids to the notre dame game in Dublin earlier this month.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3442 times:
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Quoting 135mech (Reply 18):

yeah, numerous times for AMC charters.



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User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 19):
The B-757-300 has a range of about 3400 nm, the B-757-300W has a range of about 3600 nm.

GCM shows the distance to be 3450 nm, so you will be flying on one with winglets. But at 450 knots, the flight time is 7 h 45 m. Are you stopping somewhere along the way?

I haven't booked it yet... was just looking at options and noticed that one... it's MSP - HNL direct at 11h 34m and says non-stop on DL's page. THAT freaked me out... 12 hours on a DL NB...ugh! LOL


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting 135mech (Reply 22):
I haven't booked it yet... was just looking at options and noticed that one... it's MSP - HNL direct at 11h 34m and says non-stop on DL's page. THAT freaked me out... 12 hours on a DL NB...ugh!

Must be an error if it shows nonstop.


User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2856 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 23):
Must be an error if it shows nonstop.

I really hope so! LOL


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