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Lufthansa... Clean Airplanes!  
User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 324 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22387 times:

Came across this video of a Lufthansa B747-400 taxiing in Osaka... OK, so the video quality is excellent... But damn do those Germans keep their airplanes clean...

Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeBzzTupBNw

Cheers !    

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User currently onlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12061 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22249 times:

LH has one of the cleanest and well maintaned fleets of airliners in the world.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22107 times:

Quoting Qazar (Thread starter):
Came across this video of a Lufthansa B747-400 taxiing in Osaka... OK, so the video quality is excellent... But damn do those Germans keep their airplanes clean...

Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeBzzTupBNw

Cheers !    

That's a spotless B744!!! Appears to have been delivered fresh from the factory! Germans certainly know how to maintain their aircraft...

EK413



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 21987 times:

LH is an excellent airline. If you haven't flown them you need to get a ticket, incredible IMHO.


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8899 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 21817 times:
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Glad to read positive things about my employer!

The airplanes are indeed well maintained. I am flying the old 744s and their technical status is very good.

Wilco737
  



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 21597 times:

its just the opposite of Air France


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21085 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 21583 times:

I've heard stories about LH's 737s once they moved on to other owners, and it was said that you could eat off the insides of the gear wells.

-Mir



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User currently offlinegrain From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 21371 times:

I had a great trip ORD - MUC - ORD. Great food, nice a346 plane. For $322 r/t was worth every penny

User currently onlinejetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1616 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 20959 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 6):
I've heard stories about LH's 737s once they moved on to other owners, and it was said that you could eat off the insides of the gear wells.

Many years ago when the old Peoples Express airlines first started up, they bought about 15 or so of LH’s early 737-100’s. I met a maintenance manager for PE at a trade show seminar and I asked him about these old 737’s. He said even though they had about 40,000 to 50,000 hours on them, they were immaculate, and he used the same term, you could eat off of the inside of the wings, that’s how clean they were.

JetStar


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20212 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
LH has one of the cleanest and well maintaned fleets of airliners in the world.

KLM also does an excellent job of keeping their aircraft clean, both inside and out. Even their oldest aircraft usually look like new.


User currently offlinedairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 18959 times:

Seems to me that someone only wanted to push that video on YT - this and every other Lufthansa aircrafts are so shiny white.... no need to clean!


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User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 18844 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 5):
its just the opposite of Air France

Beat me to it, I must admit...

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
Glad to read positive things about my employer!

The airplanes are indeed well maintained. I am flying the old 744s and their technical status is very good.

I wish I could do the same with my employer...   



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User currently offlinehorstroad From Germany, joined Apr 2010, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 18570 times:

the cleanliness of an aircraft tells nothing about the technical status.

look at this filthy Lufthasa Cargo MD11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEHto1hPqAU
those MD11 are as well maintained as the ships of Lufthansa Passage, if not better (>98% technical punctuality). but there are no passengers to complain about dirty aircraft or suggest a bad maintained aircraft.
I bet AF aircraft are in a good shape as well, though they don´t care about exterior cleaning that much


User currently offlineCALTUS67 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15572 times:

They've been like that for a long time! Almost forty five years ago I worked for Continental in Tucson where we did some ground work for LH when they came to town for pilot training. Each aircraft, a 707, 727 and 737 all of which I have found on Airliners, were spotless and kept that way throughout their stay. The lower half of the fuselage was kept aluminum back then and I could have shaved in my reflection!
In addition, their work in the pattern was exemplary as well, always courteous, giving way to scheduled aircraft when appropriate and responding to ATC requests quickly and positively. It was great to see and hear them!


User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15254 times:

Quoting horstroad (Reply 12):
I bet AF aircraft are in a good shape as well, though they don´t care about exterior cleaning that much

First positive thing about AF I've been reading for a long time! Thanks  

On a more serious note, I agree with you with the fact that cleanliness of an aircraft and technical status are two very different things.
To share my own story, I've been flying on one of the oldest (if not THE oldest) A320 around; MSN 002 registered F-GFKQ by then. It was a A320-100 (without winglets) and this aircraft has been used by Airbus as a test bed. Even though this bird was 21 years old, the technical status was just amazing. Dirty but technically clean.... To my knowledge, this aircraft is still flying for Airbus currently, after AF got rid of their last -100 series A320.

Cheers!



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13380 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
Glad to read positive things about my employer!

The airplanes are indeed well maintained. I am flying the old 744s and their technical status is very good.

Wilco737

Great airline... I've flown LH many times to Europe and within Europe...

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
LH has one of the cleanest and well maintaned fleets of airliners in the world.

KLM also does an excellent job of keeping their aircraft clean, both inside and out. Even their oldest aircraft usually look like new.

Clearly demonstrated with aged MD11 fleet which is about to be phased out..

Once upon a time you could say same about QF aircraft...

EK413



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User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5094 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13283 times:

This is what happens when the entire staff of a company takes real pride in the company. It's wonderful to see. I haven't flown LH often, but I've enjoyed every flight I've taken. They are not the most glamorous airline, but they may well be the most professional.


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12923 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 16):

This is what happens when the entire staff of a company takes real pride in the company. It's wonderful to see. I haven't flown LH often, but I've enjoyed every flight I've taken. They are not the most glamorous airline, but they may well be the most professional.

Very well said... Very professional indeed...

EK413



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18681 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12613 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 17):
Very well said... Very professional indeed...

There is that.

And then, there's the simple fact that Germans are more orderly than humans.  


User currently offlineSasha From Russia, joined May 1999, 861 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12499 times:

I second that LH excels well beyond keeping spotless aircraft. Their flights feel as professional as one can imagine airline industry to be. Also, being yer average "IT guy" and analyst of systems, I witness how Lufthansa Systems and Consulting entities are proving to be leaders in their own right. With very strong standing in the industry. They aren't the airline, but hey - if they are doing it right here, one might assume they are doing it right in the sky business too.

I only flew AF once (two flights) and managed to notice how dirty the exterior of the planes was. Also, I managed to get a stain on my trousers in a seat at CDG! Woss wrong, it's europe - I didn't see that coming... Maybe in SVO back in 90s, but not in CDG.

But anyway, I wouldn't pick another airline over AF if I had a choice just coz of the dirty fuselage  Smile. Well, if LH and AF offered on same route... I'd go LH.

[Edited 2012-09-16 18:16:16]


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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

Quoting dairy (Reply 10):
this and every other Lufthansa aircrafts are so shiny white.... no need to clean!

You´re wrong, aircraft - especially long haul - need cleaning, it saves fuel!


User currently offlineAF185 From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12089 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 5):

Here we go again...  

Just browse the latest AF planes pictures on A.Net and you'll see their planes are as much clean as any other airline out there. Some exceptions apply once in a while, but AF planes are usually shiny white


User currently offlineTrentXWB From India, joined Sep 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10932 times:

It's a pleasure to watch the LH birds. I've flown them many times and they are one of my favourite airlines. Have to fly the 747-8i now, as they have started the service from BLR, replacing the 744.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):

Wilco, you no more fly the MD-11Fs?



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User currently onlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10901 times:

Quoting AF185 (Reply 21):
Here we go again...

Just browse the latest AF planes pictures on A.Net and you'll see their planes are as much clean as any other airline out there. Some exceptions apply once in a while, but AF planes are usually shiny white
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWKD9KvdehQ

Sure... 

I've only seen a few AF planes over here in the states and most of them are clean as a whistle, but their 747 fleet has always been extremely dirty by comparison to others...



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10738 times:

Quoting AF185 (Reply 21):
Here we go again...

Just browse the latest AF planes pictures on A.Net and you'll see their planes are as much clean as any other airline out there. Some exceptions apply once in a while, but AF planes are usually shiny white

aaa the good old photoshop is still working  

well I can only judge from what I have seen live, and yeah the aircrafts were usually quite dirty, used AF many times MUC/FRA-CDG-MUC/FRA and from the americas (JFK, LIM, BOG, CCS) to CDG



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25 Sasha : Actually this thread begs another question. Where does the dirt come from? It's not like planes are operated on gravel runways... is it fumes or liqui
26 nethkt : Confirming LH aircrafts are super clean inside-out. Even their grandpa 737s are still looking young on the inside. They really know how to maintenace
27 Post contains images wilco737 : TrentXWB, I am not flying MD11s anymore, I am enjoying the 744 now and soon 748 as well. How clean an airplane is, doesn't show its technical status a
28 Post contains images EK413 : German engineering One word... Air Pollution... Well that's two words... EK413
29 N243NW : Great video - I flew on VM myself, back in 2006! LH really impressed me at the time - A321, A300 and 744. The A300 was the smoothest landing I've ever
30 ju068 : Not only are they the most professional, but I find Lufthansa cabin crew very polite and pleasant. I remember when we boarded our flight from FRA to
31 my235 : Such a proud looking airplane at the 0:45min mark.
32 EK413 : It's been a while since I flew LH and economy to top it off... The only 2 negatives about LH would be the Y/C product which I believe has been improv
33 euroflyer : Well, I heard that too. So I sat down and did the math with all the informations I could have gathered for AF. And it appeared to me that the fuel ga
34 n729pa : I flew SAS to CPH a few weeks back and the A319 outboard was grubby outside but perhaps cleverly the SAS colour is a very light grey, but close up you
35 Post contains links BlueJuice : Another AF bird that needs a bath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8B9HmvSipA
36 Post contains images sturmovik : A colleague of mine just travelled to the US, and had the choice of booking either LH or AF ex BLR. I spent a week lobbying him to take the shiny new
37 Post contains images debonair : True- and I am always shocked, in which state other flag carrier operate their fleet (like AZ their MD80's or BA their B767!). But I have to admit th
38 Max Q : A great Airline whose normal standards are head and shoulders above most flying the Queen of the skies. What more can you say.
39 TrentXWB : Well, congrats & enjoy the 744 and wish to see you soon on a 748i (hopefully on the FRA-BLR-FRA sector). I'd have done anything to get on that ne
40 DALCE : Obviously you don't have a clue how LH washes their aircraft. They actually do this by hand, with cleaning towels. I have seen this being done on the
41 hb88 : LH are an excellent airline. Also, their ground handling is brilliant - Munich has to be one of my favourite airports. Apart from the availability of
42 euroflyer : Do you honestly think that even with hand washing procedures that LH has established few years ago, they don't need any water ? FYI, LH technik uses
43 horstroad : what a downgrade :P dust in the atmosphere and on the airports, there are building sites which produce a lot of dirt. bird poo, insects, rubber from
44 Unflug : Are you saying that the fuel gain by washing is less than the cost of 100l of water? I have no idea, but I'd be interested to know how you calculated
45 okees : I mean, German factories are spotless, so having clean aircraft is a no brainer! Still waiting to fly on LH.. every chance I got basically failed!
46 euroflyer : In my first comment I was talking about old procedures (before Ecoshine) which has been modified few months ago and for which there is plenty of data
47 HELFAN : And they serve the beer in bottles, not in cans even though the bottles must be much heavier. A nice detail highlighting the German beer culture. Hav
48 skipness1E : The funniest thing I saw at CDG 2E recently was a filthy B744 where they had washed half of it and stopped! It really looked a mess. Air France do hav
49 holzmann : My first internship of my life was with Lufthansa and now that my work involves German-American relations, I fly IAD-FRA quite frequently. I have stat
50 Post contains images DALCE : No, even germans can't do the trick without water But at least they save a lot of it by implementing this mode of cleaning. I wasn't aware that AF al
51 Stratacruiser : I agree that LH features clean, well-maintained planes based on my experience with them (about 10 flights per year for the past decade). However, the
52 Qazar : Dude..! Don't get so offended... Air France is a good airline too.... We're just saying how we like the constancy of the clean Lufthansa aircraft.. T
53 ju068 : Actually that is true but I only experienced problems of that sort when the person working for Lufthansa was not German. I had 7 return flights with
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