LHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1368 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4363 times:
Does OO have mx, training, etc. facilities at SLC? I figured it might be similar to everyone funneling various Republic brands as regionals to CMH with the base and mx facility there, for example.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4244 times:
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 1): Does OO have mx, training, etc. facilities at SLC? I figured it might be similar to everyone funneling various Republic brands as regionals to CMH with the base and mx facility there, for example.
Yes. The hangars and training are on the same plot of land, and can be seen from the terminal.
SLC is the largest MX base, and is a large crew base (but not the largest anymore.)
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Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
Also, I should note that based on how the schedules are laid out currently, all but 1 flight LAX-SAN flight will be OO. That lone flight will be an AE CR7.
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enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6130 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4070 times:
Quoting ridgid727 (Thread starter):
Later this year when OO starts operating for AA out of LAX, They will be operating SLC-LAX for three different airlines, Delta, United and American.
That is crazy. All three alliances as well. ...and people say there is no difference in product between airlines, LOL.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4022 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 4): That is crazy. All three alliances as well. ...and people say there is no difference in product between airlines, LOL.
Staying within the scope of the thread here, if you've flown SLC-ORD on both DLC or UAX in the recent past, one would certainly note the difference in product---even on the same regional.
Sure, you get a cold meal in first on DLC, but it's still a meal.
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DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3982 times:
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5): Staying within the scope of the thread here, if you've flown SLC-ORD on both DLC or UAX in the recent past, one would certainly note the difference in product---even on the same regional.
Sure, you get a cold meal in first on DLC, but it's still a meal.
Not to mention wi-fi on Delta - something that United nor American features (or has announced plans to feature) on their regional jet fleet.
sancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3961 times:
AA's strategy ex-LAX is very interesting. I mostly see a mix of cr-7/9 operating SLC-LAX for both DCI and UAX, but it looks like AA will try competing with OO cr-2s on many LAX west coast routes? LAX-SAN/FAT/BFL/PHX/LAS would be OK on off peak routes, but they really need larger RJs for their west coast regional routes especially since its roughly the same cost to operate a cr-7/9 or a cr-2.
xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2345 posts, RR: 52 Reply 10, posted (8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3754 times:
Quoting sancho99504 (Reply 7): but they really need larger RJs for their west coast regional routes especially since its roughly the same cost to operate a cr-7/9 or a cr-2.
You have to remember, with OO losing the CR2 flying from both DL and FL, they have a bunch of those torture tubes hanging around not doing much flying. This means that OO doesn't have a lot of wiggle room with the aircraft that they have contractually obligated to their fleet for other airline flying. That leaves the abandoned CR2s to work with AA.
The statement I quoted above is technically incorrect as the CR2s cost so much more to operate than the nextgen CR7/9s. But with very little options AA has, it is technically stuck with the CR2.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3528 times:
Quoting xjramper (Reply 10): The statement I quoted above is technically incorrect as the CR2s cost so much more to operate than the nextgen CR7/9s. But with very little options AA has, it is technically stuck with the CR2.
Actually, no, the CRJ-200s cost less to operate, but their CASM is higher.
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Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (8 months 5 days ago) and read 2493 times:
Quoting sancho99504 (Reply 16): Higher CASM= cost more per mile to fly=higher operating cost.
Its cheaper to fly a 70 seater with 50 passengers than a full 50 seater.
You mis-understand me. On a block-for-block basis, the -700 is NOT cheaper to operate than the -200. When you compare CASM to CASM, yes it is.
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Caspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
I'm pretty sure that SLC is in fact the largest crew base still. DEN would be the next largest base, but still at least 80 crew members less per pilot seat than SLC.
xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2345 posts, RR: 52 Reply 20, posted (8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1402 times:
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 18): You mis-understand me. On a block-for-block basis, the -700 is NOT cheaper to operate than the -200. When you compare CASM to CASM, yes it is.
CASM is what my original post was talking about. Obviously if you can't hold as much fuel and have to pay one less F/A, it will be cheaper to operate. The overall cost (CASM) is much more expensive for the CR2 over the CR7/9
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3747 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1085 times:
AA elites are not going to be thrilled with those OO CR2s. Will AE continue to operate LAX-SJC-LAX? I hope AA decides to add some larger regional jets, they definitely could use them to stay competitive, especially with DLC.
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