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Weird News Item On CX's J Class Passengers  
User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13017 times:

Hi all,

Haven't seen anyone post this up yet, but according to Taiwan's AppleDaily, the J-class on CX is attracting men who find "other" ways to entertain themselves onboard.

See the hilarious yet disturbing video here (don't worry, it's SFW  www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPz8UnrPGE

To CX crews, is this a problem you encounter on the job? And how crews in other airlines too? Or is it just media sensationalism?


YVRFlyer
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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12820 times:

That was about the most disturbing video I can remember seeing.


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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8864 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12700 times:

Quoting YVRFlyer (Thread starter):

You will find just about every type of behavior on-board almost any airline from males, females, and couples that you will find on the ground. Being on an aircraft does not seem to change what people do, for example we still get hundreds of people each year smoking on-board as well.



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User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2093 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12655 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 2):
You will find just about every type of behavior on-board almost any airline from males, females, and couples that you will find on the ground. Being on an aircraft does not seem to change what people do, for example we still get hundreds of people each year smoking on-board as well.

Are we talking about crew or PAX  


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 12418 times:

Quoting YVRFlyer (Thread starter):
See the hilarious yet disturbing video here (don't worry, it's SFW www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPz8UnrPGE

Oh dear god -_-
Yeah this is a serious issue. On flights here in the US this is completely unacceptable and the....er.....self abuser (to use 50's terms) would be seriously prosecuted as a sex offender.


In the meantime....i'm surprised I didn't see this while in Japan   



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User currently offlinekiwiinoz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 12367 times:

Wow. They went to quite an effort to make the video

I will take note next time flying CX


User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11924 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 2):
You will find just about every type of behavior on-board almost any airline from males, females, and couples that you will find on the ground.
Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 5):

Wow. They went to quite an effort to make the video
I will take note next time flying CX

True true... I wonder if this was a shameless ad for Taiwan's own China Airlines, to help them crack into the lucractive TPE-HKG market. I believe CX dominates the route, and in the public's mind, China Airlines still has the stigma of its past dangerous safety record.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
In the meantime....i'm surprised I didn't see this while in Japan     

I take you've experienced Japan's trains? Actually, the pervs in Japan are much more discreet. Apparently a popular seller are these trenchcoats with fake arms and hands, so the wearer can pleasure himself under the trenchcoat, standing up in a crowded train. Think about that next time you're commuting in Tokyo!   



YVRFlyer
User currently offlineinfinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11845 times:

Yikes. That is just depraved.
Sheesh.. at least do it in the washroom if you really must!

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
Oh dear god -_-
Yeah this is a serious issue. On flights here in the US this is completely unacceptable and the....er.....self abuser (to use 50's terms) would be seriously prosecuted as a sex offender.

In Singapore too, I reckon!


User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 394 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11824 times:

Quoting YVRFlyer (Reply 6):

I wonder if this was a shameless ad for Taiwan's own China Airlines, to help them crack into the lucractive TPE-HKG market.

They don't have too. Despite its troubled safety records, their flights between TPE/HKG are very full most of the time.

Anyway, EVA Air now also offers this same fee-free "value added service" on board their new/refurbished 77W Royal Laurel Class  


User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1861 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11567 times:

Does somebody get paid to make animations like this?

User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11552 times:

Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 8):
They don't have too. Despite its troubled safety records, their flights between TPE/HKG are very full most of the time.

I stand corrected, I had no idea they were doing so well. Still, knocking CX down a bit is still a good motivator if this is some kind of sly ad tactic.

Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 8):
Anyway, EVA Air now also offers this same fee-free "value added service" on board their new/refurbished 77W Royal Laurel Class   

Well well then... competition is a good thing!   



YVRFlyer
User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11161 times:

That is one of the funniest videos I have seen in awhile! Hysterical. It certainly brings new meaning to In Flight Entertainment. The hot towel service was a bit over the top. I've thought the business class seats of CX and DL and others like them look like video arcade booths from the 70s.

User currently offlineLostmoon744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8440 times:

Wow, that was pretty nasty. I still love the seats!

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8224 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 11):
The hot towel service was a bit over the top

That was hilarious!

The whole video is great! Now to link it on Facebook  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlinetaichen From Spain, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7527 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 1):
That was about the most disturbing video I can remember seeing.

Then you haven't seen much in your life.

It might be a bit over the top, but at least it was not "american prudish ... hilarious as it was, it does have a point. FAs do have to deal with this from time to time, not only on CX.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7427 times:

Hahaha... now that is really weird

User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7218 times:

Quoting YVRFlyer (Reply 10):
I stand corrected, I had no idea they were doing so well. Still, knocking CX down a bit is still a good motivator if this is some kind of sly ad tactic.

No, they don't seem to have any problem with CX. Apparently you missed their „coverage“ of the AA Bankruptcy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhS54F_y_ZU&feature=plcp


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 16):
No, they don't seem to have any problem with CX. Apparently you missed their „coverage“ of the AA Bankruptcy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhS54...=plcp

That was great too - "Not if they were run like airlines in Asia!!" ... How very true  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Quoting infinit (Reply 7):
In Singapore too, I reckon!

It's like $500 for spitting on the sidewalk there too  
Quoting YVRFlyer (Reply 6):
Think about that next time you're commuting in Tokyo!

Oh I've seen it other places....i.e., i went to the equivalent of a Blockbuster with the 5th floor being the 18+ floor.....you can just think   



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User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5630 times:

Quoting taichen (Reply 14):
Then you haven't seen much in your life.

Oh, I have seen more disturbing things, but not a youtube video...
Maybe I just find or define different stuff as disturbing.



The light at the end of tunnel turn out to be a lighted sing saying NO EXIT
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Tell me there's a first class on CX cuz I can't do that long a flight in economy and I won't be able to be comfortable in business class anymore.

User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 18):
Oh I've seen it other places....i.e., i went to the equivalent of a Blockbuster with the 5th floor being the 18+ floor.....you can just think     

Hopefully they used bleach to clean the floors! I wonder if sales of sterilizing towels (i.e. Lysol Wipes) at HKG have gone through the roof now.

Quoting LOWS (Reply 16):
No, they don't seem to have any problem with CX. Apparently you missed their „coverage“ of the AA Bankruptcy.

Oops oh yeah, I missed that one!   

Quoting tharanga (Reply 9):
Does somebody get paid to make animations like this?

Yep, they do... they make some wacky animation, often very sensationalized. I'm amazed at the effort they took to accurately recreate CX's airplane and interiors, especially all the fine details for the J cabin and seat.

The funny thing is that there doesn't seem to be any original source stories about CX's "problem", it's like the animators made it out of thin air. The only news on it are all reposts on the animation, rather than original news.



YVRFlyer
User currently offlineinfinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 18):
It's like $500 for spitting on the sidewalk there too

Well if you get people flying in from some countries not too far from you where they discharge their bodily fluids all over the place you need legislation involved here  
Quoting tharanga (Reply 9):
Does somebody get paid to make animations like this?

lol

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 11):
The hot towel service was a bit over the top.

For some strange reason, I pictured a hot towel under that blanket in the animation
I'm not going to be taking those hot towels for some time!
Okay, I'd better not give them ideas! 


User currently offlinesmws From Estonia, joined Jun 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

Quoting YVRFlyer (Reply 10):
I stand corrected, I had no idea they were doing so well. Still, knocking CX down a bit is still a good motivator if this is some kind of sly ad tactic.

They put everyone down!  

The video was created by Next Media Animation ( http://www.nma.tv/ ) which creates these funny and humorous news reports of stuff going on all around the world. Some fascinating highlights so far have taken a look at:
- Charlie Sheen - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_OB-W3FQM
- iPhone 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBMxHbvLA5U
- etc.

Their YouTube channel is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/NMAWorldEdition


User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 824 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

This happens more than you'd think. Out of my 3 years working as an FA, I've personally seen about 10 cases.

YLWbased



Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
User currently offlineinfinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 24):
This happens more than you'd think. Out of my 3 years working as an FA, I've personally seen about 10 cases.

Good lord.. How did you deal will it?


User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 824 posts, RR: 4
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4668 times:

Quoting infinit (Reply 25):
Good lord.. How did you deal will it?

Tap on their shoulder, tell them that "the lavatory is at the rear of the aircraft". Speak softly, avoid making a big fuss in the cabin.   

YLWbased

edited for spelling

[Edited 2012-09-19 19:24:21]


Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

Quoting infinit (Reply 25):
Good lord.. How did you deal will it?

Wow, I'm surprised no one asked that earlier!!!   

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 26):
Tap on their shoulder, tell them that "the lavatory is at the rear of the aircraft". Speak softly, avoid making a big fuss in the cabin.      

 Wow! ... Duly noted. I will upgrade to Y+ or book near the front of the Y cabin to avoid the rear lavatories!

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 20):

Tell me there's a first class on CX cuz I can't do that long a flight in economy and I won't be able to be comfortable in business class anymore.

Yes, indeed there is First on CX!

Wow, this video could be a subliminal message for people to upgrade. I'm already thinking of going Y+ or grabbing the more desirable (and pricy) seats up front, and spiritair97 is considering F instead of J. Very clever if CX's marketing department was involved!   



YVRFlyer
User currently offlineYVRFlyer From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

UPDATE: Apparently CX has managed to remove the animated piece from Youtube, Next Media did a followup animation ad story here:
http://www.nma.tv/cathay-pacific-bus...s-class-airline-censors-nma-video/

I wonder if anyone at CX has ever heard of the 'Streisand Effect' - this might bring far more attention to the original offending animation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect



YVRFlyer
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6530 posts, RR: 9
Reply 29, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Do you know where I can see it, then ?


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User currently offlinesmws From Estonia, joined Jun 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 29):

Do you know where I can see it, then ?

The English version seems to be available:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZdT5HfrJk


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