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Cathay 744 B-HUD At MAN, Why?  
User currently offlinespiplane From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15671 times:
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Was taking departure photos this morning at Manchester Airport and caught Cathay Pacific passenger 744 B-HUD taking off. Looked like it was going West, at least initially. As Cathay only has cargo flights to MAN, anyone knows what this passenger plane was doing here? Diversion from LHR?

Thx, Paul


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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1812 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15606 times:

I believe someone posted a topic on this a short while ago. It's off to the USA (?) to be scrapped. Shame. Could it not be found a new home?


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User currently offlineSTEVE7E7 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 476 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15585 times:

IIRC it is destined to be scapped at Bruntingthorpe.

User currently offlineBlueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2912 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 15537 times:

Kemble is its final resting place.

Rgds



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User currently offlineandrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 15409 times:

B-HUD operated flight number CX3339 from XMN direct to MAN before being ferried to Kemble.

User currently offlinejetset7e7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 15174 times:

Believe aircraft had to clear customs at MAN before departing to Kemble for scrapping.

Mark



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User currently offlinegegarrenton From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 14952 times:

Ahh, bummer. I was on that bird beginning of the month SFO-HKG.

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[Edited 2012-09-22 09:39:45]

[Edited 2012-09-22 09:40:33]

User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7572 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7670 times:

Arrived at Kemble about 1000 Saturday.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7636 times:

I looked at Kemble Airport using Google Maps. Noticed two other 747s there, but more notable was how SHORT the runway is   

User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7572 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7610 times:

If you were looking at the Main Gate area, these were G-MKCA and G-MKGA parked since MK Airlines folded in 2008/2009.

User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1918 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7580 times:

Oh no... I did not get to fly it before it is scraped...
I guess I can never claim flying every CX passenger 747-400... lol... I am missing B-HUD and B-HKV on my list.

Thanks for the pictures!

Carfield


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined exactly 3 years ago today! , 1189 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

B-HUD was delivered in December 1992, so nearly 20 years old. Here it is at Kemble, rest in peace, B-HUD:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/8014978436_265e21022d_c.jpg
B-HUD Boeing 747-467, Cathay Pacific, Kemble, 22 September 2012 by Kev Slade, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/8017147676_02833fd195_c.jpg
B-HUD Boeing 747-467, Cathay Pacific, Kemble, 22 September 2012 by Kev Slade, on Flickr

Looks like it did a flypast also:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kev_sla...019043248/in/set-72157631598358616



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User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6840 times:

Why was HUD pulled from service before any of the older 744's in the CX fleet ?

User currently offlinebrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 12):
Why was HUD pulled from service before any of the older 744's in the CX fleet ?

Probably due for a D check that the older ones have already undergone.



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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6598 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

B-HOT has already been retired as well, and will probably end up in Kemble soon.

User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9038 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 11):
Looks like it did a flypast also:

Looks like they joined overhead for a visual circuit to land, Kemble does not have any instrument approaches as far as I understand.



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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6598 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

B-HOT is due to leave HKG on the 29th, bound for MAN then Kemble. Chance to get two CX744s on the ground there!

User currently offlinencfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6319 times:

I'm very surprised CX is retiring a sub 20 year old 744. I just assumed they'd keep them for a few more years, or sell it on to another operator/conversion.

User currently offlinegegarrenton From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6310 times:

Given the cost of a D check, I am not that surprised.

User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6598 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

The 744 in CX operation needs around 90% load factor to make money because of the fuel prices. This has been discussed in other threads. Given the costs of a D check and engine overhaul costs, retirement is the only reasonable option. We have 9 777-300ERs being delivered in 2013 and a cut back in our longhaul schedule for winter 12/13. This is allowing several 744s to be retired. Our passenger 744fleet will be halved by the end of next year!

User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9038 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6119 times:

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 16):
Chance to get two CX744s on the ground there!

Probably more like 15, in very very small pieces, literally on the ground.



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User currently offlinegegarrenton From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6111 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 20):
Probably more like 15, in very very small pieces, literally on the ground.

I know it's progress and the 77W's are moneymakers, but damn it's a bummer to see such iconic planes headed for the bin.


User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9038 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

Quoting gegarrenton (Reply 21):

I know it's progress and the 77W's are moneymakers, but damn it's a bummer to see such iconic planes headed for the bin.

I think it is safe to say they paid themselves off, and then some. The earlier plan was to convert all of them to BCFs, they did not turn out as good as the brochure. So the options are, give the aircraft away to your competitors for X, or sell them for scrap and parts which is worth more than X and does not leave your seat product in the hands of your competitors.

The positive out of this should be more parts available for the existing 744 fleet in other airlines to keep them economical for longer.



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User currently offlinezipsy From UK - England, joined Jul 2010, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6059 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 22):
I know it's progress and the 77W's are moneymakers, but damn it's a bummer to see such iconic planes headed for the bin.

Very sad to see another beautiful 747 bite the dust,I love these birds!


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined exactly 3 years ago today! , 1189 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5998 times:

Does anyone know how many hours/cycles B-HUD had done when she reached retirement? It would be interesting to compare it to Lufthansa's first 747-400 (D-ABVA) which was scrapped last year.

[Edited 2012-09-25 21:23:20]


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25 lukeyboy95 : Yes, very sad to see this fall from grace. It is a shame the JumboHostel lot at ARN are not looking to expand their product across some more airports
26 gegarrenton : Certainly agree, just lamenting. Do you guys keep much hardware or just turn these birds over as-is?
27 B-HOP : What time would B-HOT leave HK this Sat?
28 EVAAIRBR076 : Why airline companies sometimes choose for Victorville, Mojave, Kemble etc. Ofcourse it must have something to do with the prices, but is the differen
29 Post contains images GCPET : Sad to see another 744 being scrapped especially a Cathay one! They look so elegant... And I've got the ITVV video of the Cathay 747-400 with Don Gran
30 gdg9 : Probably a combination of the cost of ferrying the aircraft as well as how much each scrapyard is willing to pay.
31 CX747 : It is indeed an unusual sight to see a CX 747-400 heading off into retirement. One of the first books I ever read regarding aviation eagerly anticipat
32 Post contains images spiplane : I guess that answered my question and more. Thought I add a photo of B-HUD during it's last take off, from Manchester Airport on the 22nd of September
33 CX Flyboy : 9:20am from memory.
34 tonymctigue : Ah no, not another airline ditching 747s! I had my first ever CX B744 flight only last June, ending an 18 year gap between 747 rides (The last being i
35 na : Very sad developments at CX, but most of the 744s in the green fleet is over 20 years old and CX utillisation quite high as much as I know. B-HOT mus
36 jfk777 : Sad to see Cathay parking so many 744 especially when they expanded the fleet by buying several ex-Singapore Air Pratt powered 744's. Now the question
37 tonymctigue : Sadly, like so many airlines who for so long the B747 formed the backbone of their fleet, it is hard to see CX ever ordering anything bigger than the
38 blueflyer : Some 744s are due for heavy maintenance and several engines are due for an overhaul (that alone is $8 millions a piece). Cathay isn't retiring the 74
39 lightsaber : I have hopes for the 748i. Hope that is fading... Looking at the freight market and unconverted 744 prices... cheaper to buy a BCF used. Seriously. I'
40 Post contains images EK413 : I'm curious to know why CX ferry the aircraft to Kemble and Mojave as many other carriers choose to do so...? When did JetStar start up in Kemble EK4
41 CX Flyboy : As Lightsaber noted above, the aircraft are sold to third parties who then scrap them. Kemble has an established scrapping facility. See below: _____
42 Post contains images EK413 : Thank you for the details Mr CX Flyboy EK413
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