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United 787 #3904 To IAH  
User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2004 posts, RR: 27
Posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 38034 times:

United Airline's first 787 is on it's way to IAH this morning. Scheduled arrival at 09:48 AM.

[Edited 2012-09-22 06:27:23]


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16693 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 38084 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Thread starter):
United Airline's first 787 is on it's way to IAH this morning.

Wow, when did the delivery take place yesterday or this Morning.



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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2004 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 38067 times:

She left BFI today. She is aloft. And Flying. It is showing as a non-revenue test flight. Actual delivery ceremony in IAH ?

[Edited 2012-09-22 06:30:56]


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16693 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 38005 times:

I don't see anything on Flightaware.


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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37929 times:

Not showing on FlightAware...


Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37905 times:

Can an airline block a flight on flightaware, like the government can?

User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2004 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37816 times:

Remember, this is a non-revenue flight. Believe she is flying as a test or ferry flight. #6864.


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User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37787 times:

united.com does show 6864 from BFI to IAH with the arrival times listed above.

Technically it does not show BFI as the origin, but then under the weather for the airports involved it displays BFI.

the status says 'on schedule' but it should have an estimated arrival time if it is in the air, but I am sure that united could block this if they wish.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5671 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37731 times:

Got a couple of sources telling me that delivery did indeed take place and the airplane should arrive at IAH by 10AM CDT. Sounds like delivery ceremony will be in Houston.


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1806 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37716 times:

They tricked even the most active followers   If the ceremony is at IAH they certainly would want to keep this flight quiet if possible.

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 37651 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 6):
Remember, this is a non-revenue flight. Believe she is flying as a test or ferry flight. #6864.

There are some other airline ferry/delivery flights showing up on Flightaware out of BFI this morning (Aerolineas Argentina and Xiamen Air both have 738s departing BFI this morning.). The last instance of UAL6864 being used is Sept. 15 for an LAX-SFO flight with a 772. The fact that this ferry flight isn't showing up on Flightaware is interesting and makes you wonder if perhaps it's flying under some other flight number or UA had the flight number or registration blocked.

Flightaware is showing three 787 flights, two from JAL and one from ANA:

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B788

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 5):
Can an airline block a flight on flightaware, like the government can?

Yes. Plenty of private a/c have their registrations blocked, so an airline can just as easily request a similar sort of blocking of a flight number or a/c registration even on a temporary basis (Many private jet fractional operators are classified as airlines.). It's probably not done as often since airlines typically use a block of flight numbers for ferry/test flights.


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 37460 times:

Awesome news for a Saturday morning... my daughter is dancing to the Rhapsody in Blue that I am blasting right now!

Congrats to all at United and Boeing!


User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 37409 times:

FYI friend of mine says the internal UA system shows the flt sked but does not show the aircraft flying...mebbe a data error???

User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2004 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 36584 times:

It was a tip from Chicago Ops, the schedule at 09:48 IAH time is wrong. Trying to get more info.


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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1157 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 36040 times:

My United app actually shows some seats in Y+ are occupied. Maybe a glitch.


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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 35799 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 14):
My United app actually shows some seats in Y+ are occupied. Maybe a glitch.

Those are the default blocked seats...



Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 35357 times:

Is there no A-Netters in IAH to confirm that the 787 has landed and then disappeared into a hanger?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5671 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 35349 times:

ZA288 is still in Seattle and should depart later today or tomorrow morning. Apparently it's getting some sort of custom software load.


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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33590 times:

Looks like the UA 787 will be delivered to IAH!


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User currently offlineflight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3369 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33429 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 18):
Looks like the UA 787 will be delivered to IAH!

What gave that away? This entire thread?


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33361 times:

Looks like it. Looks like the rumors that is was gonna be either SFO or ORD are now false!


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5671 posts, RR: 48
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33254 times:

No delivery today. Apparently no C-1 flight has even taken place. That still has to be done as well as some other training and marketing matters. Delivery towards the end of the week possibly.


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1806 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33248 times:

Was it Continental or UA that ordered these frames?

User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33228 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 22):

Was it Continental or UA that ordered these frames?

This is a Continental ordered aircraft.



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User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33140 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 22):

IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1806 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 33916 times:

So delivery should be at former Continental hub?

User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 33955 times:

Quoting n797mx (Reply 24):
IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.

Nope it's a CO ordered aircraft. The UA ordered ones won't be coming online until around 2016 or so.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 27, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 35270 times:

Technically the delivery flight was on Friday PAE-BFI. BFI-IAH is a non revenue flight operating for UA. Rarely do airlines do this since usually the plane flies directly from PAE.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
No delivery today. Apparently no C-1 flight has even taken place. That still has to be done as well as some other training and marketing matters. Delivery towards the end of the week possibly.

Are you looking at a different plane?



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User currently offlineco772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 34979 times:

Quoting flight152 (Reply 19):
What gave that away? This entire thread?

  

Quoting sweair (Reply 25):
So delivery should be at former Continental hub?

I have no inside information but it would make sense as the 787 is a sCO order, crewed by a sCO crew, based out of IAH (an sCO hub). Wouldn't surprise me if it went to ORD though.

I was at IAH around 1pm... I didn't see it at Terminal E or around the hangers off of Will Clayton Pkwy. Did get to see a few 772's and 764's  


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 34461 times:

Quoting co772 (Reply 28):

I was beginning to think it was going to be delivered to ORD, but IAH makes more sense since it is a sCO order.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16693 posts, RR: 51
Reply 30, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 34337 times:

I remember with CO their 777s #1 and #2 were delivered the same day, #1 flew to IAH and #2 to EWR. I went to EWR that night to see the new CO 777 and could not miss that huge tail towering over all the 737s. I remember looking from the gate at all the ground crew surrounding the aircraft checking it out. Their first revenue flights were the following day, EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16693 posts, RR: 51
Reply 31, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 34336 times:

Quoting n797mx (Reply 24):
IIRC, these should be United orders because I believe that CO converted their orders to the 787-9. I don't remember if it was all of them though.

CO originally ordered 25 787-8s, just as UA did. However CO later converted 14 of their 25 787-8s to 787-9s, the aircraft we are waiting to be delivered is the first of the 11 787-8 orders from CO. After that I don't know which will be next the sCO 787-9s or the sUA 787-8s.



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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 32, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 33821 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 29):

I was beginning to think it was going to be delivered to ORD, but IAH makes more sense since it is a sCO order.

UA typically had new airplanes deliver to SFO not ORD.



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1806 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 33778 times:

Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.

User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 33713 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 32):

Thanks for correcting me, could this mean that IAH could replace SFO for deliveries in the future?



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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 35, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 33182 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 34):
Thanks for correcting me, could this mean that IAH could replace SFO for deliveries in the future?

I wouldn't say that. SMB is and will be very important in the future of this airline.



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User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 33271 times:
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Again, there is no merger of the pilot contracts. Because of that, these sCO initial orders will be flown by sCO pilots from an sCO hub. CO was the first U.S. based carrier to place a 787 order and that base was always going to be at IAH. This is just follow through.

Once the pilot unions become one, there may be different delivery points for new a/c. For now, these sCO 787's will start by flying from BFI to IAH.


User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1157 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 32137 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 33):

Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.

And CO since it was Varney who founded both of them, UA and CO that is.



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User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 24904 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 33):

For that matter both UAL and CAL spramg from the same roots. Walter Varney, Varney Airlines and Varney Speedlines
1930 (UAL) 1936 (CAL)


User currently offlinejmhayes From United States of America, joined May 2007, 12 posts, RR: 1
Reply 39, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 22582 times:

Just filed a flightplan to Grant Co ...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2004 posts, RR: 27
Reply 40, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22536 times:

Okay, there was a issue yesterday, no crew was assigned to the flight all day. It was premature to say she was in the air. Took a tip and did not completely verify it. My bad. Today, she is scheduled to depart BFI at 8PM PDT with a IAH arrival of 1:48 AM. A flight crew is assigned.
Wonder on arrival if they will take her to a hangar or leave her at a gate. Trip # is ferry flight 6869, will be watching with anticipation.




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User currently offlinejmhayes From United States of America, joined May 2007, 12 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 22292 times:

Flight to Moses Lake just completed; Flightaware didn't show it as having taken off, but tracked on ADS-B.

[Edited 2012-09-23 11:50:01]

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 42, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21461 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 20):
Looks like it. Looks like the rumors that is was gonna be either SFO or ORD are now false!

There were no rumors that it was going to anywhere but IAH.

NS


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 43, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21375 times:

So, what's the status now. It's 9:12pm DEN time.


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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21358 times:

UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?

User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 45, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21331 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 42):

I did hear them, but not from this site.



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 21278 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 44):
UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?

That flight is a ferry flight to HKG for the 763 to undergo mod to 2-cabin international version with Flatbed seats, AVOD etc.



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User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 47, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 21290 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 44):
UAL686 is shown on flightaware as a 763 from HNL to HKG. Any reason it isn't showing the 787 ferry flight?

...because its a different flight?  

NS


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3843 posts, RR: 8
Reply 48, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 20674 times:

flight cancelled last night.

another run to Moses is scheduled for today.

[Edited 2012-09-24 05:48:54]


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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2011 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 20024 times:

Internal Boeing News say the plane was delivered to over the weekend. But the flight to Houston is not planned till later in the week.

Don't know any more details.

bt



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User currently offlineGEG2RAP From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19901 times:

oh you guys just don't know which airport to look for http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

The bird is here in Moses Lake 


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 51, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 19607 times:

Quoting GEG2RAP (Reply 50):

On Flightaware, you can just type in the tail number to find where the plane is.



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User currently offlinefrosty328 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18674 times:

According to our internal company website, the first 787, N20904 will arrive in IAH on Friday September 28th. There are no details yet about the ETA in IAH.

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 53, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18587 times:

Love to know why it has remained in Washington so long after "delivery"...and a wierd delivery flight it was (PAE to BFI).


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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 54, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18491 times:

Quoting frosty328 (Reply 52):
According to our internal company website, the first 787, N20904 will arrive in IAH on Friday September 28th. There are no details yet about the ETA in IAH.

Rumor from one of the guys on the ground at IAH is early AM Fri...of course subject to change.



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User currently offlinefrosty328 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18414 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 54):

Love to know why it has remained in Washington so long after "delivery"...and a wierd delivery flight it was (PAE to BFI).

According to the company, the crews are doing training flights between Moses Lake and Boeing Field. The training flights are the final part of the process in achieving certification for revenue operation.


User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 56, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18321 times:

If Flightaware is to be believed, it's making a flight today from BFI to the skies above MSP and then back to BFI. I wonder what the rationale behind the routing is. A way to taunt DL?

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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 57, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18358 times:

Quoting Western727 (Reply 56):
If Flightaware is to be believed, it's making a flight today from BFI to the skies above MSP and then back to BFI. I wonder what the rationale behind the routing is. A way to taunt DL?

"Minneapolis tower, United 7708 heavy requesting a flyby."

Controller: "Negative, 7708 heavy, the pattern is full."

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[Edited 2012-09-26 09:43:37]


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User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 58, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18211 times:

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 57):
Controller: "Negative, 7708 heavy, the pattern is full."

  

+1



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1459 posts, RR: 2
Reply 59, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 17983 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 33):
Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.

Yep, until they were forced to divest! Very much an incestuous industry.

Quoting frosty328 (Reply 55):
According to the company, the crews are doing training flights between Moses Lake and Boeing Field. The training flights are the final part of the process in achieving certification for revenue operation.

It was said that they are more effective for training at Moses Lake because of less air traffic congestion and less traffic on the ground. Word is we now have ~70 pilots certified on the aircraft and are just working to get them real stick time.


User currently offlineCOEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 60, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 17913 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 37):
Quoting sweair (Reply 33):

Hard to imagine Boeing and UA being fro the same roots once in history.

And CO since it was Varney who founded both of them, UA and CO that is.

Add to that United Technologies (Pratt and Whitney, Sikorsky)


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 61, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 17910 times:

Quoting frosty328 (Reply 55):
According to the company, the crews are doing training flights between Moses Lake and Boeing Field. The training flights are the final part of the process in achieving certification for revenue operation.

Wonder why they didn't fly home first, though. Not like Texas has plenty of Moses Lake like airports  



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User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 62, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17831 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 59):
It was said that they are more effective for training at Moses Lake because of less air traffic congestion and less traffic on the ground.

MWH also has ideal weather, being in the desert of eastern Washington. I grew up going regularly from home in Seattle to nearby Ephrata (grandparents lived there) and the weather was almost always perfect for flying. I have fond memories of watching the JL 747s when they operated their training base out of MWH.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 61):
Wonder why they didn't fly home first, though. Not like Texas has plenty of Moses Lake like airports

True...I imagine it's because the UA pilots are being trained by Boeing crews.



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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2011 posts, RR: 4
Reply 63, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17838 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 61):
Not like Texas has plenty of Moses Lake like airports

Nah, you don't get hills in Texas like you do here. Each round trip between Seattle and Moses Lake give you a couple of spectacular fly by's of O'l Rainier. Although the haze kind of ruin the view as of late.

bt



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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17874 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-in-flights-around-seattle-376968/

Quote:
Cockpit crews have previously only had classes and simulator training on the aircraft, according to an employee newsletter.

"Although United's 787 simulator is very realistic, there's simply no substitute for being able to fly the aircraft," said captain Dave Lundy, 787 fleet standards manager at the airline.

The aircraft will be based in Houston and fly on limited domestic routes from 4 November and international routes from 4 December.

This would sum up the best reason why she hasn't left to IAH, yet, makes the most sense to me at least.


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 65, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 17192 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 64):
This would sum up the best reason why she hasn't left to IAH, yet, makes the most sense to me at least.

Indeed...looks like she did a quick familiarization flight today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708



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User currently offlineordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 17138 times:

According to flightaware, she's stil flying (3 1/2 hours so far).

User currently offlineordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 17127 times:

I don't know if the altitude graph is correct, but off the coast they were flying very low. If the flight level on there is correct, they were flying between 2,000 and 900 feet for about 17 minutes.

User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 68, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 17002 times:

4PM Friday 9/28 IAH arrival is the latest.


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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5267 posts, RR: 29
Reply 69, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 17013 times:

Just flew over Auburn en route to BFI with a Boeing chase plane alongside it. Beautiful - nice gentle arc over my house. I'm out running my garden train, messing around on the new iPad, and she comes breezing by. Great evening in Auburn.  

-Dave



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 70, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 16938 times:

Delete this post please as it didn't load correctly.

[Edited 2012-09-27 19:24:44]


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 71, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 16995 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 68):
4PM Friday 9/28 IAH arrival is the latest.



The pilots that will bring it into IAH are very very old so that is pretty late in the day for them!  

My bet is the updated time for arrival at IAH will be somewhere in the 1330 CDT area.



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User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 16896 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 71):

It will not be that early. UA has confirmed they will be arriving around 4PM.


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 16894 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 72):
It will not be that early. UA has confirmed they will be arriving around 4PM.

My info might be outdated, but the email I got yesterday from someone at Boeing said that the aircraft is expected at IAH between 1-2PM local for a 4PM special ceremony.

[Edited 2012-09-27 19:52:49]


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User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 74, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16612 times:
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Last word I had is will op as 7708 ETA 1600-ish. It will go directly to the hanger.. No terminal viewing 


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 75, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16415 times:

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 74):
Last word I had is will op as 7708 ETA 1600-ish.

Yep, my intel this morning was out of BFI at 1000 PDT and arrive IAH 1600 CDT.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 76, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 16203 times:

Looks like a flight plan has been filed....UAs first Dreamliner should be en route to IAH in a little over two hours.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 77, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 16188 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 69):
I'm out running my garden train

Does your garden train set have an airport?

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 74):
Last word I had is will op as 7708 ETA 1600-ish. It will go directly to the hanger.. No terminal viewing

Is there going to be an official ceremony at some point?


User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16036 times:

And the first 787 is on it's way  

7708/28SEP
P BFI/OUT 941A E00.19 ☨
P BFI/OFF 958A
P IAH/ETA 420P E05.00
D HDQ/FERRY FLIGHT ETA 420P

SKED BFI ORIG 1000A GTD **** SHIP 3904
IAH 920P TERM GTA ****



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16021 times:

This is what a friend of mine sent me.

UNITED AIRLINES’ FIRST 787 DREAMLINER ARRIVES IN HOUSTON

United Airlines – the North American launch customer for the Boeing 787 – is flying its first 787 from Boeing Field in Seattle to the airline’s Houston hub. The aircraft is the first of five new Dreamliners the airline expects to receive this year from its total order for 50 of the aircraft. United took ownership of its first 787on Saturday.


WHEN:​​​Friday, Sept. 28, 2012
​​​4:00 p.m.
​​​Media must arrive by 3:30 p.m. for escort to tarmac viewing area
​​​
WHERE:​​Bush Intercontinental Airport
​​4849 Wright Road
​​Meet security escort in the parking lot across the street from Hangar E
​​​
VISUALS:​​787 runway landing
​​Water cannon salute
​​Photo op with the aircraft following arrival
​​787 pilot interviews

WHO:​​Capt. Dave Lundy and Capt. Niels Olufsen, United 787 pilots
​​Houston-based United uniformed employees



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 80, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15876 times:

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 79):
WHEN:​​​Friday, Sept. 28, 2012
​​​4:00 p.m.
​​​Media must arrive by 3:30 p.m. for escort to tarmac viewing area


Guess they're going to be slowing down some or expect to extend the route in order to make that 1600 CDT arrival time. The live data I just looked at had them at FL410 moving over the ground at 511 KTS, arriving IAH at 1533 CDT without making any modifications to the flight plan or speed.

United website still has them arriving at 1620 CDT, so at this point still a crap shoot for the actual arrival time.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 81, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15784 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 80):
Guess they're going to be slowing down some or expect to extend the route in order to make that 1600 CDT arrival time. The live data I just looked at had them at FL410 moving over the ground at 511 KTS, arriving IAH at 1533 CDT without making any modifications to the flight plan or speed.

United website still has them arriving at 1620 CDT, so at this point still a crap shoot for the actual arrival time.

You gonna be on duty and have the honors of controlling the first UA 787 in Houston's airspace?  



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 82, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15792 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 81):
You gonna be on duty and have the honors of controlling the first UA 787 in Houston's airspace?


I wish.....but unfortunately the crusty ole guys flying needed some extra rest and couldn't get here before the end of my duty day. 

Oh well, it will be around the area next week and for weeks to come.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 83, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15622 times:

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 79):
UNITED AIRLINES’ FIRST 787 DREAMLINER ARRIVES IN HOUSTON

Just about to cross into Texas...whats the weather look like in IAH right now?



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 84, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15614 times:

Wow, definitely some weather issues over the Lone Star State today... (looking at the radar returns on FlightAware!).


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 85, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15662 times:

Any idea about the whoop-de-do over Colorado? Is there an Air Force Academy grad in the pointy end that wanted a flyby? Or a Flight-aware bug?  


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User currently offlineco772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15554 times:

Most likely will be landing in some scattered thundershowers.

User currently offlineco772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15541 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 85):

Might have been to time the arrival w/ the specified arrival time...?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 9
Reply 88, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15566 times:

According to FlightAware it was a 9 minute 360 degree circle (left turn) at FL410 that circled PUB (Pueblo CO), miles south of DEN and COS. Anyone on board from PUB?

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 89, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15515 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 88):
According to FlightAware it was a 9 minute 360 degree circle (left turn) at FL410 that circled PUB (Pueblo CO), miles south of DEN and COS. Anyone on board from PUB?

Dunno, but the people on the ground in PUB certainly couldn't make it out very well at FL410  



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 90, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15401 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 89):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 88):
According to FlightAware it was a 9 minute 360 degree circle (left turn) at FL410 that circled PUB (Pueblo CO), miles south of DEN and COS. Anyone on board from PUB?

Dunno, but the people on the ground in PUB certainly couldn't make it out very well at FL410  

Looks like they are making another loop...wonder if its for weather or simply to slow down a bit.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 91, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15425 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 90):
Looks like they are making another loop...wonder if its for weather or simply to slow down a bit.

Doesn't look like it. It might just be vectoring for arrival or weather. They have already descended from cruise...but maybe a flyby is in store at IAH  



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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15412 times:

The loops are to slow down to ensure that the flight will arrive after the journalists do.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 93, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15347 times:

Any A.netters on he ground at IAH right now??


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User currently offlineco772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15429 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 93):

Just flew over my house... should be on the ground by now. Sorry for the terrible iPhone pic... much better in person
  



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Reply 95, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15431 times:

Touchdown  

+1 788 Dreamliner....



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 96, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15051 times:

Video of the first one landing in IAH....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olxMkoEcgfM



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User currently offlineadxmatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 97, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14848 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 85):
Any idea about the whoop-de-do over Colorado
Quoting co772 (Reply 87):
Might have been to time the arrival w/ the specified arrival time...?

That is correct.... Didn't want to get to IAH early due to the press events.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 6):
she is flying as a test or ferry flight. #6864.

The 6000 series flight numbers were set up strictly for ACARS testing. Make sure flight plans and weight and balance uploaded correctly.

A/C will get induction in IAH over the next week and then a series of non-revenue "proving runs" will take place. All proving run flights will have the same flight number. They will include domestic as well as "Polar" flying. Proving runs will exceed 100 hours.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16693 posts, RR: 51
Reply 98, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14451 times:

Lots' of photos from the Houston Airports System:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/houstonairports/sets/72157631646113389/



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User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 99, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13100 times:
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Ship 0904/3904 is planned to make first flight in 11 days tomorrow 10Sep IAH EWR IAH as UA7708.


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User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 12
Reply 100, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13052 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 25):

Its going to IAH because thats where UAL picked to do the 787 work. Could have easily been SFO. (and i expect SFO will be doing 787 work soon.)

Quoting co772 (Reply 28):

I have no inside information but it would make sense as the 787 is a sCO order, crewed by a sCO crew, based out of IAH (an sCO hub). Wouldn't surprise me if it went to ORD though

why ORD? eh... you have to remember its more about MX. UA has, AFAIK, always sent new plane to SMB for its intro. to the fleet. Its not about where the CEO sits.....

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 34):

maybe. maybe not. All that depends on where UA wants to do its intro checks. IIRC CO sends its 737s to MCO for intro checks. (a little odd they don't do it all at one place)

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 35):

but it may not be the place for new inductions. IAH was, IIRC, picked by UAL to be the first to gear up for 787 work. I' a little surprised its not SMB though.

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 36):
Again, there is no merger of the pilot contracts. Because of that, these sCO initial orders will be flown by sCO pilots from an sCO hub. CO was the first U.S. based carrier to place a 787 order and that base was always going to be at IAH. This is just follow through.

.....I don't think that the CO contract say anything about induction checks and such. I have a hard time believing that CO's pilots contract tell the company where it can/can't do MX. (I also don't believe the pilot contract says it much be based from a CO hub.....I'm sure it must be staffed by CO pilots but that will be about it.)



yep.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 101, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13020 times:

I heard it's going to LAX on Friday 12 October.

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 102, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13095 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 101):
I heard it's going to LAX on Friday 12 October.

Yep, or at least that is currently what the UA flight status page is showing, out of IAH at 0900 CDT to LAX at 1040 PDT.



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User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 12993 times:

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 99):

Ship 0904/3904 is planned to make first flight in 11 days tomorrow 10Sep IAH EWR IAH as UA7708.

This is hilarious. If you go to united.com and search flight status for 7708.
It has the flight delayed 3hrs, awaiting inbound aircraft....

I love it. If that is not funny I don't what is.

It also shows, 9 people checked in for the flight.

[Edited 2012-10-10 05:36:28]

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 104, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12743 times:

So has it really just been sitting around at IAH since its delivery flight? I would have expected some crew familiarization runs within Texas...  


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User currently offlineDL WIDGET HEAD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2071 posts, RR: 5
Reply 105, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12659 times:

I'd like to nonrev on this plane on Monday Oct 15th. Anybody know if it's flying on that day and the routes?

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 106, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12639 times:

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 99):
Ship 0904/3904 is planned to make first flight in 11 days tomorrow 10Sep IAH EWR IAH as UA7708.

Is this a revenue flight?


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12558 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 106):
Is this a revenue flight?

First revenue flight is 11/4



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 108, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12531 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 106):
Is this a revenue flight?

No, all proving runs at this point.



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User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12555 times:
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Quoting United787 (Reply 106):

No the proving runs aren't even done yet, The FAA should be in the office this week for the start Lucky for ME I'm off until Friday.. Proving Runs are hectic for everybody because they usually involve an Audit for everybody IN Maintenance Control and possibly Dispatch. Though I'm sure the S-CO guys are ready. the S-UA guys won't do this until the -9 comes.
I've yet to see any Maintenance manuals for the airplane since access is by password only


User currently offlineBoeing12345 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12446 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 109):
I've yet to see any Maintenance manuals for the airplane since access is by password only

Guess you don't have access to eDocs then.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4091 posts, RR: 5
Reply 111, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12289 times:

3904 is also planned to fly IAH-ORD on Thursday 11Oct.

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 112, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12137 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 102):
Yep, or at least that is currently what the UA flight status page is showing, out of IAH at 0900 CDT to LAX at 1040 PDT.

Thanks for the info on the time which I realize could change.

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 113, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12145 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 112):
Thanks for the info on the time which I realize could change.


Oh yeah, like for today it was scheduled out of IAH at 0900 CDT for EWR and it's still at IAH sitting at 1410 CDT.   



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User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 114, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12075 times:
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it's out of the gate, not off yet   


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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 115, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12018 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 113):
Oh yeah, like for today it was scheduled out of IAH at 0900 CDT for EWR and it's still at IAH sitting at 1410 CDT.

Well, I could always see it at work, if it's running late..... 

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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6264 posts, RR: 3
Reply 116, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11960 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 113):
Oh yeah, like for today it was scheduled out of IAH at 0900 CDT for EWR and it's still at IAH sitting at 1410 CDT.

Where are you getting the info? Plugging either N20904 or UAL7708 into Flight-Aware shows nothing...    Oh yeah, you've probably seen the flight strip   What are they filing as?



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User currently offlinecal764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11940 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708
United 7708 in the air an hour ago bound for EWR..or so it says



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 118, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11927 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 115):
Where are you getting the info? Plugging either N20904 or UAL7708 into Flight-Aware shows nothing


From the UA website flight status page. They kept it surprisingly up to date as the push times changed. Nut flightaware, you're better than that!!  
Quoting iahcsr (Reply 114):
it's out of the gate, not off yet


They got involved in a runway swap from west to east flow, and for some reason (5 stinkin runways) known only those people in the tall building with the windows can explain, things got backed up, UAL7708 was in that stuff.

[Edited 2012-10-10 13:39:03]


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User currently offlineHypoxik From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11788 times:

So is it turning to IAH tonight? Can't find anything on Flyingtogether about the ORD run.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 120, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11690 times:

Quoting Hypoxik (Reply 119):
So is it turning to IAH tonight? Can't find anything on Flyingtogether about the ORD run.



Guys, check the UA website and flight status, type in the flight number of 7708 and it provides probably the best available information other than from an employees site. While I am not a big fan of the UA site it has proven to be spot on so far.



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User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11603 times:

Quoting Hypoxik (Reply 119):
So is it turning to IAH tonight? Can't find anything on Flyingtogether about the ORD run.

It is on its way to IAH right now.

Tomorrow morning, it will fly to IAH-ORD-DEN-IAH tomorrow all under UA7708. The UA site is doing a great job tracking it.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2356 posts, RR: 6
Reply 122, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11494 times:

I saw it land today around dusk at EWR. Gorgeous airplane. The LED nav/anti-collision/landing lights are very distinctive.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 123, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11402 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 122):
The LED nav/anti-collision/landing lights are very distinctive.



They sure are. A beautiful airplane and oh so quiet on takeoff!



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 124, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11417 times:

Will this be the first time a 787 comes to ORD? I will definately watch for that one, hopefully it lands on 28 so I can see it fly over Lincoln Park!

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Reply 125, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11401 times:
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Quoting United787 (Reply 124):
Will this be the first time a 787 comes to ORD? I will definately watch for that one, hopefully it lands on 28 so I can see it fly over Lincoln Park!

No. Boeing brought the 787 over back in March for UA. I hope they use Runway 28. I will see if I can get some shots tomorrow. Depends on where they land too.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 126, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11008 times:

Over Central Illinois now and flights appear to be landing from the East!

User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 10856 times:

Rumor has it, there is an issue which may delay the first couple 787 flights. Does anybody have any info?

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Reply 128, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10704 times:
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Quoting UA767400 (Reply 127):

The Proving Runs are not yet complete. we still have the International section to complete to Europe and Asia. The FAA has been in the Office all week and they seem to be pretty Tough, I'm not involved in the proving runs but the guys who ARE?? They're Sweating! The FEDS are pinning their ears back. There's a damn LOT more to this airplane than a pretty paint scheme. I thought much of it was going to be new Technology. I was wrong. Damn near ALL of it is new technology,
right down to the most mundane thing as the Portable Oxygen Bottles. This airplane is a TRUE "Game Changer" It's efficiencies are tremendous! Not One system on this airplane is like the B777,B767 or B747-400. The old ways of thinking and troubleshooting will not Work on this airplane Nearly everything is self verifiable, Nearly every system is down loadable for faults and health monitoring. I am Impressed!!


User currently offlinetallguy14 From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10587 times:
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I also heard a rumor from a friend at CO/UA that there won't be three 787s ready in time for the three inaugural flights on Nov 4th. We bought tickets on the IAHORD inaugural. Say it ain't so!

User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days ago) and read 10412 times:

Quoting tallguy14 (Reply 129):

I also heard a rumor from a friend at CO/UA that there won't be three 787s ready in time for the three inaugural flights on Nov 4th. We bought tickets on the IAHORD inaugural. Say it ain't so!

UA is scheduled to have 2 planes on property by 11/4. All flights are planned for that. They plan on having 4 by end of the year.

The last update I saw had deliveries planned as follows:
Sep - 1
Oct - 1
Nov - 1
Dec - 1


User currently offlinemax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10336 times:

Quoting tallguy14 (Reply 129):
I also heard a rumor from a friend at CO/UA that there won't be three 787s ready in time for the three inaugural flights on Nov 4th. We bought tickets on the IAHORD inaugural. Say it ain't so!

I was under the impression they'll only need two aircraft for those first flights. One to do IAH-ORD-IAH-LAX-IAH and one for IAH-EWR-IAH-LAX-IAH.
United said they won't be receiving their third and fourth 787 until November when they put out the initial schedules.
https://hub.united.com/en-us/News/Company-Operations/Pages/united-787-dreamliner-domestic-routes.aspx


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10034 times:

NRT flight tomorrow is cancelled.

I'm getting very concerned about UA's ability to make the 11/4 inauguration date.



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User currently offlineco772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9872 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 132):
NRT flight tomorrow is cancelled.

Does anyone have any idea as to why they cancelled both the AMS and NRT flights. Also, It was supposed to fly to SFO after the diversion to DEN but instead flew back to IAH and hasn't left the ground since.


User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 134, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9569 times:
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Last I heard NRT is now set for the 21st

[Edited 2012-10-18 00:50:57]


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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 135, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9358 times:

This aircraft has not flown for several days...been sitting in Houston from what I am reading. Now...it is a complicated new design aircraft going thru FAA proving runs but the dang FAA has been involved with this aircraft since the begining. No new ground now....this design is now several years old....and has been in service in/out of US airports for months. Seems to me the only difference is UA involvement now.....and all of a sudden UA is now speechless....interesting.

User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9220 times:

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 135):

It is not all Uniteds fault. It is different when a US carrier operates a new aircraft vs a foreign carrier flying an aircraft to a US airport


User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9136 times:
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Quoting hiflyer (Reply 135):

What would you have UAL management SAY?? I've been at work while the FAA sat 2 feet from me "Grilling" the Maintenance controller. what I perceive is irrelevant but Were I senior management? I might have taken the proving runs in a different direction and NOT have thought it was going to be a "cake walk". At United (Pre Merger) we had the 777's and 747's over a month before we started the proving runs. They went into EVERY station where they were going to fly to and we accomplished Practice 'A' checks and in some cases simulated Engine Changes to make damn sure everybody had a good working knowledge of the airplane. I didn't see that this time , BUT our S-co counterparts are running this show and tend to do things their OWN way. Whether I agree or Disagree is of little matter, BUT. I suspect they'll be changing thing up just a little going forward and get EVERYBODY involved. Which up to now they haven't.
But? You live and Learn.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4091 posts, RR: 5
Reply 138, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9040 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 137):
I suspect they'll be changing thing up just a little going forward and get EVERYBODY involved. Which up to now they haven't.
But? You live and Learn.

Had CO ever introduced a new type in the US? UA has a lot of history with this (727, 737, DC-10, 767, 777, maybe more), you'd think they might have used this extensive experience to understand what to expect. So I'm hesitant to believe that management is (solely) to blame. This airplane is significantly different from anything else flying today besides the fact that it's a tube with wings and engines.


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 139, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8823 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 137):
They went into EVERY station where they were going to fly to and we accomplished Practice 'A' checks and in some cases simulated Engine Changes to make damn sure everybody had a good working knowledge of the airplane. I didn't see that this time

They have to do that with this plane as well, and its pretty well documented on Flying Together all those steps are being and will be taken.

NS


User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 140, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 137):
Which up to now they haven't

Thanks stryfr51.....so UA did the initial on the 777 in the US as most recent.. Think CO (or DL?) may have done the 764 but that was more a variation on type rather than a whole new design like the 777 or 787. The aircraft was supposed to go to AMS and NRT round trip this week and both canceled so suspect plans are being redone from what was originally publicized.


User currently offlineCaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days ago) and read 8590 times:

I've heard through the grapevine that it will be in Atlanta (!!!) on Saturday between 1000-1900 local time... Can anyone confirm this?


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 142, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8389 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 138):
Had CO ever introduced a new type in the US? UA has a lot of history with this (727, 737, DC-10, 767, 777, maybe more)

I'm not really sure how relevant "past experience" is, when you're talking about introducing a 727 and a 737 forty years ago, a DC-10 and a 767 thirty years ago, and a 777 almost twenty years ago.
Most of those people probably don't even still work for UA.

I don't think we can blame CO management's "lack of experience introducing Boeing aircraft to service" for slow-running startup stuff.
Besides, Eastern was one of the startup carriers/launch customers for the Airbus A300, L-1011, and DC-10, and we all know that Eastern-->Continental-->United, so using FriendlySkies's logic, there should be some experience there.


User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8349 times:

Quoting Captainstefan (Reply 141):

It is supposed to head to EWR....unless it diverts, you won't see it.


User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 144, posted (1 year 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 7757 times:
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0904 flew IAH IAD IAh today...
Nothing posted for tomorrow..
IAH SFO IAH on Monday... Maybe...



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User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7237 times:

UA plans its first Transatlantic B787 flight on 25 Oct 2012 IAH AMS With paying pax.

User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 146, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7184 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 145):
UA plans its first Transatlantic B787 flight on 25 Oct 2012 IAH AMS With paying pax.

Is this confirmed?



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7170 times:

I don't think it's flying to AMS with paying pax. As its doing a proving run to AMS tonight and won't be back in IAH until Friday.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 148, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 145):
With paying pax.



Who are these paying pax, FAA? Proving runs have yet to be finished and they have yet to fly it internationally so paying pax is most likely incorrect.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 149, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6870 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 145):

UA plans its first Transatlantic B787 flight on 25 Oct 2012 IAH AMS With paying pax.

You've pulled this out of your... nose.
Revenue flights start November 4, and they're on DOMESTIC runs.
AMS is, indeed, to be the first international trip, but you're mistaken as to the timeline.
Unless there's been some development in the FAA that we don't know about...
...Especially given that the plane has, apparently, yet to leave the country successfully.


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 150, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6849 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 149):
You've pulled this out of your... nose.
Revenue flights start November 4, and they're on DOMESTIC runs.
AMS is, indeed, to be the first international trip, but you're mistaken as to the timeline.
Unless there's been some development in the FAA that we don't know about...
...Especially given that the plane has, apparently, yet to leave the country successfully.



Well, well......not quite out of my nose ....but from www.united.com


United Flight 7708
Status: On Schedule
DEPARTS:
City: Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Gate: C-14
Check-in Terminal:
Scheduled Time: 19:00
Scheduled Date: Wed., 24 Oct., 2012
Estimated Time: 19:00
Estimated Date: Wed., 24 Oct., 2012

ARRIVES:
City: Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS)
Gate:
Terminal:
Scheduled Time: 11:30
Scheduled Date: Thu., 25 Oct., 2012
Estimated Time: 11:30
Estimated Date: Thu., 25 Oct., 2012

Aircraft: Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft #3904
Where is this aircraft coming from? San Francisco, CA (SFO), Flight 7708 Check Status
Weather conditions: IAH, AMS


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2356 posts, RR: 6
Reply 151, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6830 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 150):

That's a proving flight.

The 'facts' are that United is not yet authorized by the FAA to operate the 787 in commercial service, that is, with revenue passengers.  


User currently offlineCO772 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6914 times:

United.com shows it retuning AMS-IAH on Friday 10/26/12. Definitely a proving run w/out paying pax both directions. Hopefully it won't be canceled like the trips to AMS & NRT earlier in the month.

United Flight 7708
Departure Date: Fri., Oct. 26, 2012
Status: On Schedule

Departs:
Amsterdam, NL (AMS)
Scheduled: 9:00 AM
Estimated: 9:00 AM
Terminal:
Gate: NOT YET ASSIGNED
Arrives:
Houston, TX (IAH)
Scheduled: 12:30 PM
Estimated: 12:30 PM
Terminal:
Gate: NOT YET ASSIGNED

Aircraft: Boeing 787 | #3904


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 153, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6777 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 150):
Well, well......not quite out of my nose ....but from www.united.com

  
Proving runs. No revenue passengers - united.com places alot of 'odd' sections on the flight status page that are charters or non-revenue runs. Even the 787 delivery flight was on united.com.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 154, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6722 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 145):

UA plans its first Transatlantic B787 flight on 25 Oct 2012 IAH AMS With paying pax.


No, it's not. We can't fly the 787 with paying pax yet. We are still in the proving runs phase. What you saw was probably just a flifo status on UA.com.

Putting pax on proving runs would fail our certification.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 155, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6519 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 150):
Well, well......not quite out of my nose



Just the fact!!!! The information you have is from the website which has had from the delivery flight shown where the airplane is next going. UAL7708 is the proving run flight number for United, just because it's listed on the website for UAL means nothing.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 156, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6514 times:

When is Dreamliner #2 supposed to arrive? Is it on the assembly line yet?


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User currently offlinesonomaflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6445 times:
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Dreamliner #2 for UA has already taken its B-1 (first flight). It has one or two more Boeing flights then one or two flights by UA crews before delivery.

Aircraft 3 and 4 are awaiting their first flights. Aircraft #5 will be built in the first quarter of next year.

From post 145 of the 787 Production/Delivery thread:

Next Up (Tentative - Subject to Change):
L/N 74 - CC-BBB - 10/xx/2012 - LA #2
L/N 75 - ET-AOS - 10/28/2012 - ET #3
L/N 63 - JA816A - 10/xx/2012 - NH #16
L/N 77 - N26906 - 10/xx/2012 - UA #2

[Edited 2012-10-24 20:00:03]

User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 158, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6291 times:
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The second delivery, ship 0906, is actually the sixth UA built. The other four have rework to be done first. Deliveries 3 and 4 are currently ships 0902 then 0905.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 159, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6228 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 150):


Well, well......not quite out of my nose ....but from www.united.com


United Flight 7708
Status: On Schedule
DEPARTS:
City: Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Gate: C-14
Check-in Terminal:
Scheduled Time: 19:00
Scheduled Date: Wed., 24 Oct., 2012
Estimated Time: 19:00
Estimated Date: Wed., 24 Oct., 2012

ARRIVES:
City: Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS)
Gate:
Terminal:
Scheduled Time: 11:30
Scheduled Date: Thu., 25 Oct., 2012
Estimated Time: 11:30
Estimated Date: Thu., 25 Oct., 2012

Aircraft: Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft #3904
Where is this aircraft coming from? San Francisco, CA (SFO), Flight 7708 Check Status
Weather conditions: IAH, AMS

Did you not bother to read ANY of the other posts which informed you that you were mistaken?
Hopefully, you'll take the time to read those posts which have been written since you continued in your error... Easy mistake, and I see how you made it, but the truth is that UA is NOT flying pax on 7708. If you'd been following this thread (oh, the joys of the scroll wheel), you'd notice that just about every UA 787 proving flight has used flight number 7708 thus far.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 156):
When is Dreamliner #2 supposed to arrive? Is it on the assembly line yet?

Actually, five UA aircraft are fully constructed; sadly, many require extensive rework, though they're coming along.

Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 157):
Aircraft 3 and 4 are awaiting their first flights. Aircraft #5 will be built in the first quarter of next year.

Yep, yep!
See the all things 787 website for a very detailed status of 787 assembly, rework, and delivery.
102 787's built... 31 delivered. Sigh.


User currently offlinemax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6091 times:

Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 157):
Dreamliner #2 for UA has already taken its B-1 (first flight). It has one or two more Boeing flights then one or two flights by UA crews before delivery.

Anyone know if they'll have it in time to do the inaugural flights on 11/4? How much time will UA need to have it for before they can put it into revenue service?


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

Quoting max550 (Reply 160):
Anyone know if they'll have it in time to do the inaugural flights on 11/4? How much time will UA need to have it for before they can put it into revenue service?

As long as delivery takes place by the end of the month, UA has a decent chance at getting the aircraft into service in time.



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User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 162, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 161):
As long as delivery takes place by the end of the month, UA has a decent chance at getting the aircraft into service in time.

It is unlikely that happens.
Frankly, I think as long as #2 gets on property by Nov 3rd they will be fine, but the bigger problem will be all of the proving flight (hours) that still need to be done with #1.
They have to do a trip to NRT in the next 5 days after the plane returns from AMS.....


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 163, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5795 times:

Are there any special bids in place for cabin and flight crew for the first revenue flights?


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User currently offlineua767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 162):
Frankly, I think as long as #2 gets on property by Nov 3rd they will be fine, but the bigger problem will be all of the proving flight (hours) that still need to be done with #1.
They have to do a trip to NRT in the next 5 days after the plane returns from AMS.....

No, the aircraft has to be on property before 11/3 in order for the IAH-EWR-IAH-SFO-IAH flights to work. Whenever a new aircraft is delivered, there are many things that engineers and mechanics have to do to prepare it for revenue service.

United has openly confirmed (despite the rumors) they are on for all 11/4 flights (pending no maintenance issues arise before then and no weather problems).

3904 will return to IAH tomorrow (10/26), and it is off to NRT on 10/27. It should flyn NRT-IAH on Monday (10/29). I believe NRT-IAH is the last proving run that it has to complete for it to become certified.


User currently offlinemalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5612 times:

Quoting ua767400 (Reply 164):
No, the aircraft has to be on property before 11/3 in order for the IAH-EWR-IAH-SFO-IAH flights to work. Whenever a new aircraft is delivered, there are many things that engineers and mechanics have to do to prepare it for revenue service.

But I am also seeing IAH-ORD-IAH-LAX-IAH service in the system that week with the 788 not IAH-EWR-IAH-SFO-IAH or am I missing something, or second 788 delivery will be used to fly the other segments?

[Edited 2012-10-25 21:51:41]


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User currently offlineua767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 166, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5593 times:

Quoting malaysia (Reply 165):
But I am also seeing IAH-ORD-IAH-LAX-IAH service in the system that week with the 788 not IAH-EWR-IAH-SFO-IAH or am I missing something, or second 788 delivery will be used to fly the other segments?

Yes, it is in the system, but IF the second 787 is not ready in time, the IAH-ORD-IAH route will go as planned.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 167, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

Quoting ua767400 (Reply 166):
Yes, it is in the system, but IF the second 787 is not ready in time, the IAH-ORD-IAH route will go as planned.

Any word on LAX on the 5th? That's the only one I care about!!! LOL.


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 168, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5493 times:

Maybe something wrong with the plane. Just requested descent and diversion to Keflavik with Shanwick on HF.  Wow!

eta: typo

[Edited 2012-10-26 03:29:11]

User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3354 posts, RR: 42
Reply 169, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5462 times:
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Could also be an FAA test .. Or the real thing...


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 170, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5462 times:

Descending from 390 to 370, re-route from present position to 60n24w then direct KEF. At 61n call Iceland on 127.85.

User currently offlineua767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 171, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 168):

More than likely a test by the FAA


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 172, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Shanwick selcalled him back and asked if he was intending to land at KEF. Flight was extremely weak for me but I believe he said he would be. All seems a bit odd to me. Surely if it was an "FAA test" then they'd just file to KEF from wherever they've come from in the first place, not suddenly request a descent and diversion off their NAT track half way across the pond. I bet the boys at Prestwick had a few choice words for them as they tried to thread them a route across all the other NAT traffic on the parallel tracks for seemingly no good reason at all.

[Edited 2012-10-26 04:22:34]

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 173, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5383 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 172):
Surely if it was an "FAA test" then they'd just file to KEF from wherever they've come from in the first place, not suddenly request a descent and diversion off their NAT track half way across the pond


The FAA is looking at all facets of a diversion, so filing to KEF would certainly not check off those boxes the FAA need to verify for certification.



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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 174, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5283 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 172):
Surely if it was an "FAA test" then they'd just file to KEF from wherever they've come from in the first place, not suddenly request a descent and diversion off their NAT track half way across the pond. I bet the boys at Prestwick had a few choice words for them as they tried to thread them a route across all the other NAT traffic on the parallel tracks for seemingly no good reason at all.

It absolutely is an FAA test. Same thing happened all last week with WN and its proving runs to SJU, the FAA had them divert to other airports in the Caribbean.



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 175, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

Looks like the 787 operating IAH - CLE, IAH - IAD one time service, as well as the inaugural IAH - EWR, IAH - SFO have been scrapped and replaced with either 762 or 764 aircraft.

Planned one-time 787 service on Houston - Cleveland (10NOV12) and Houston - Washington Dulles (17NOV12) will be cancelled and replaced by 767-200ER.

Several planned 787 service in Nov and Dec 2012 also see 762 or 764 operating instead on random dates, including 04NOV12 inaugural on IAH EWR and IAH SFO swapped to 767-400ER.



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