ogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 15975 times:
Flew from Mendoza Argentina to Aeroparque in Buenos Aires in Aerolineas Argentinas on an Embraer 190 still smelling like new car, on September 20, 2012 the early flight that takes off at 6 AM number 2401. I noticed that once we flew by the airport in Buenos Aires, the u-turn didn't take much but less than one minute, EAP was still visible, but the approach was as if we were going to land in a carrier, I took some pictures, and once I zoomed, noticed that the runway was busy, and that explained the go around. Why is it that sometimes the approach is so aggressive? traffic? My Dad is a retired military pilot from the Mexican Air Force, so my respects to all aviators. Flew last night back home on UA 52 EZE-IAH.
DrEsteban From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14053 times:
Look like they were possibly hot and high (4 whites). So the reason for there go around might have been an unstable approach. This would also explain your sense of an 'aggressive' approach, eg. high speed, steep descend angle, banking close to the ground, etc.
bueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12183 times:
Quoting DrEsteban (Reply 1):
Look like they were possibly hot and high (4 whites).
That could have been after the decision/order to go around, however. There's traffic on the runway in the first two shots, so it's possible that the approach had already been discontinued by the time the shot was taken where you can see the PAPI, so the crew could already have stopped descending/started climbing, accounting for the 4 whites. However it also looks high in the first pic so it's equally possible that this was just a bodged approach. If so, kudos to the crew for doing the right thing.
Quoting mats01776 (Reply 4):
The VASI (Visual Approach Slope Indicator) is showing that the plane was flying higher than a optimal approach angle.
You'd generally call the equipment in the picture a PAPI, not a VASI. "VASI" generally means This.
suseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 916 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 8679 times:
Not only was it super high, if you could see the PAPI that clearly from a passenger seat, it was probably way off the center line.
They might also have been doing a circle to land instruction. You don't see that very much at busy airports, but it does happen. I once was in a UAX LAX-ONT flight at 11p that did a circle to land. We basically leveled the wings right at the point of flare. Fun approach.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7513 posts, RR: 41
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3433 times:
Landing and taking off many many times at AEP I can say that agressive approaches and takeoffs are not rare. Once on an AEP-MDZ AR 727-200 flight it seemed that just as we left the ground the plane banked towars the River. I´m sure safety was never compromised but the impression of the wing tip being too close to the asphalt was scary.