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Low Load Factor On A Once Only 787 Flight For UA  
User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16911 times:

Me and a couple of my friends are all booked on the first and only 787 flight for UA from CLE-IAH (UA1060), but looking at the seat map their are only about 30 seats taken. You would think that there would at least half or something full of PR people and reporters for the occasion, maybe even some of you guys and gals. Was it just not a popular route?


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19415 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16858 times:

Quoting n797mx (Thread starter):
Me and a couple of my friends are all booked on the first and only 787 flight for UA from CLE-IAH (UA1060), but looking at the seat map their are only about 30 seats taken. You would think that there would at least half or something full of PR people and reporters for the occasion, maybe even some of you guys and gals. Was it just not a popular route?

I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money. Maybe that's why the LF is low?


User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16824 times:
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Maybe one of the sCO insiders could provide a schedule of the hub to hub flights that are coming? I would try to make one out of IAH or DEN.

User currently offlineORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16701 times:

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 2):
Maybe one of the sCO insiders could provide a schedule of the hub to hub flights that are coming? I would try to make one out of IAH or DEN.

no need to be an insider, UA did a press release announcing the dates and times of service, so you figure out the flight numbers and united.com is showing the aircraft as '787-8 Dreamliner' for those specific routes and dates/times

http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....-newsArticle&ID=1730079&highlight=

Enjoy....


User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16625 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):

I snagged up CLE-IAH-SAT and back the same way for $258 for all four flights. You gotta know how to use the hubs I guess...  



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15999 times:

Quoting n797mx (Reply 4):

I snagged up CLE-IAH-SAT and back the same way for $258 for all four flights. You gotta know how to use the hubs I guess...

I just grabbed IAH-EWR-BDL for $114 ow. The connection over CLE was also available on that date.


User currently offlineKBJCpilot From United States of America, joined May 2012, 160 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15923 times:

DEN > IAH > DEN is $268 R/T flying the 787 DEN > IAH and then IAH > AUS > DEN on the return flight on 12/5/12.


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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15883 times:

For $317 dollars round trip, I might just do it... Could be a five day late birthday gift to myself lol.


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 15438 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money.

I'm all booked, flying CLE-IAH-DFW for just over 300 bucks… hardly astronomical. Even CLE-IAH-CLE was like $405 or something.

What it comes down to is the public doesn't even know what a 787 is, and they certainly don't care enough to buy a ticket on a jet they don't otherwise need to fly on. I suspect it'll hit 100-150 pax, same as any IAH-bound 737. I never really understood why people on this website don't understand that 99.99% of the world doesn't think the way they do...



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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 15204 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):

Actually, I looked when I saw this thread and united's site had CLE-IAH-CLE at over $800 for the 787 flight.



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User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 946 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14998 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
I tried to book that flight and tickets were astronomical. I could have flown to NRT for that kind of money. Maybe that's why the LF is low?

The same was true on IAH-ORD the round trip on 787 was over $1200. They must be on drugs to charge that much.


User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8892 times:

Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase? I haven't flown United in years, so don't know. But I've noticed the same thing with DL's website....a flight might show a lot of open seats the day before the flight, but the plane is full when I've been on it. Does united.com allow seat selection only at purchase or check in, or would that be for certain fares? Anyway, maybe they just haven't assigned seats yet.

User currently offlinethebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6678 times:
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I'm on the 10 November SFO-IAH / IAH-CLE then overnight in CLE, and return to IAH on a 738 (since 787 service isn't offered the next day), then IAH-SFO on 787 again. I was surprised the flights were not sold out. I was even able to upgrade to United First with miles. All four legs combined (with upgrade fee) cost less than $500. I think that's a bargain. Especially considering how long I've followed the program, and have ached to fly a 787. Three legs on a 787!! Woo hoo!

User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6485 times:
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Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 3):
no need to be an insider, UA did a press release announcing the dates and times of service

Thanks for posting that! I'm going to plan something for November when I have some time off. I found TUL-IAH-SFO-IAH-TUL for about $500. Almost a full 24 hours of airports and 787!


User currently offlineCompensateMe From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1055 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

Quoting thebry (Reply 12):
I was surprised the flights were not sold out. I was even able to upgrade to United First with miles. All four legs combined (with upgrade fee) cost less than $500. I think that's a bargain. Especially considering how long I've followed the program, and have ached to fly a 787. Three legs on a 787!! Woo hoo!

I'm not surprised the flights aren't sold out - it's still nearly 7 weeks out. Nonetheless, it appears there's a higher-than-average number of seats reserved, especially up front, on the flights operated with the 787, so it's attracting interest. That said, the average person doesn't care. And even though I'm a plane buff, let's be realistic: the 787 will be plentiful in just a few years (likely the dominate widebody among USA-based carriers), and will be gracing the skies until I'm dead. I'm not in a hurry  .



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User currently offlineCOEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 336 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5159 times:

I am on the 10th Nov EWR - IAH and 11th Nov IAH - EWR up front using FF miles.

User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9510 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

Quoting CompensateMe (Reply 14):
I'm not surprised the flights aren't sold out - it's still nearly 7 weeks out.

30 seats sold 7 weeks out sounds about right. On domestic routes (outside of Hawaii) about 50% of tickets are purchased within 7 days of travel.



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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting cschleic (Reply 11):
Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase?

Yes.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 9):
Actually, I looked when I saw this thread and united's site had CLE-IAH-CLE at over $800 for the 787 flight.

Looks like it's up about 100 dollars to $501 right now. Unless you're talking about coming right back the same day? That seems like a dumb idea, though, particularly as the 787 is only 1 leg of the trip and it's an airplane that's only going to get more and more numerous. Spend the night, go somewhere fun, and save the $$.



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User currently onlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2762 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4183 times:
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Oh how I wish they would fly it DEN-EWR. Would have loved to treat myself to a birthday present GFK-DEN-EWR-BDL on 12/13. Such a bummer. Looks like I'm stuck on a boring CRJ and E170 on DL   .
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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 19):
Oh how I wish they would fly it DEN-EWR. Would have loved to treat myself to a birthday present GFK-DEN-EWR-BDL on 12/13. Such a bummer. Looks like I'm stuck on a boring CRJ and E170 on DL .
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User currently onlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2762 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4151 times:
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Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 20):
Fly GFK-DEN-IAH-EWR-BDL!

I'm trying to find a way to do it. The problem is I can get a one way for GFK-DEN-IAH-BDL for $368 but the return in Jan is $668. Compared to $500 one stop on DL both ways. Not sure I can convince the parentals it is worth it!
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User currently offlineboilerla From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

I booked LAX-IAH for the first weekend in November on the 787. The same day trips were outrageous, so I can imagine that might explain the higher prices the OP was seeing. However include a Saturday night stay and all of the sudden Friday-Sunday was a pretty cheap $380 R/T.

On my LAX-IAH flight there are already 7 seats reserved in 1st class and the return flight has 5 blocked off. I know that's not representative of purchases, but it seems pretty impressive considering it's 6 weeks away still.


User currently offlineCOEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 336 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 17):
Quoting cschleic (Reply 11):
Does United automatically assign seats at the time of purchase?

Yes.

Depends.... on how you have set your profile. It does not assign a seat to me until I go and select a seat.


User currently offlineboilerla From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Take that back...there are now 15 seats out of the entire BF cabin booked on my outbound flight, which is half BF the cabin on the 787. And on the inbound flight, almost 20 seats in BF are booked. I imagine a lot of these are RPUs but still, I am betting UA is doing pretty well for what is a generic domestic flight on Friday night.

25 crownvic : True...public doesnt care...public doesnt know what kind of aircraft.... I had the privilege along with about 25 other enthusiasts of flying Delta's
26 MakeMinesLAX : What's a good "fly past the hub" option for LAX? MSY, SAT? Seems a little tricky in Dec, because the eastbound flight LAX-IAH leaves at 6:25pm. It's i
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