doulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 348 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 14681 times:
We all know that sometimes JetBlue has to make a refueling stop with their Airbus A320s on
Transcontinental flights from JFK-LAX/SFO and vice versa. Where do they usually land for
refueling. They will be taking delivery of some A321s next year and they will have winglets
but the planes are not NEO. Will their A321s be able to fly from JFK-LAX/SFO without
refueling stops sometimes. Are JetBlues A321s be all coach or will they have a business
or premium class which they have talked about adding in the past.
slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 14313 times:
I could see them being put on the big runner routes. JFK to Florida in the Winter seems like there is some good options to reduce per seat costs easily.
airliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 876 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14153 times:
B6 has said before that they plan on using the A321 on routes such as JFK/BOS - Florida and Caribbean. If it is used on a transcon it is just a sub.
seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4277 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14125 times:
Why is everyone so doubtful about the A321's ability to do transcons when it does many of them every single day?
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cotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13859 times:
I'm not saying it CAN'T do the transcons, i'm saying I doubt we put them on it. Everything that i've heard from the top has been that they want these planes on the East Coast and Carribean. They might get subbed in every once in awhile when a plane goes tech, but they won't be doing transcons right out of the gate. The NEOs, definately.
ASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 377 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13762 times:
Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
We all know that sometimes JetBlue has to make a refueling stop with their Airbus A320s on
Transcontinental flights from JFK-LAX/SFO and vice versa. Where do they usually land for
refueling.
I think that happens mostly in the winter. I have stopped twice in DEN during BOS-OAK flights.
icebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 619 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13722 times:
The A321's will be able to do transcons. Winglets and extra fuel tanks although they will primarily be used on the Northeast to Florida routes and maybe to Puerto Rico.
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jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2643 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13315 times:
"B6 has said before that they plan on using the A321 on routes such as JFK/BOS - Florida and Caribbean. If it is used on a transcon it is just a sub."
Really? Where did they say that? Or is it just rumor taking on a life of its own?
enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6129 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13151 times:
Quoting doulasc (Thread starter): They will be all economy, and I seriously doubt they ever do transcons. They will mainly go JFK/BOS to Florida and the Carribean.
Quoting seabosdca (Reply 6): Why is everyone so doubtful about the A321's ability to do transcons when it does many of them every single day?
Quoting icebird757 (Reply 9): The A321's will be able to do transcons. Winglets and extra fuel tanks although they will primarily be used on the Northeast to Florida routes and maybe to Puerto Rico.
Even with the enhancements they will only have the range of today's A320s which B6 has put in a low density seating config in order to fly transcon. I've heard they have considered a split configuration for the A320s to do transcon with a sub-fleet. I would not expect the A321 to be on any non-stop transcons except perhaps in seasonal periods of reduced jetstream velocity.
werdywerd From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 487 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13056 times:
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12894 times:
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2319 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12043 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 12): Even with the enhancements they will only have the range of today's A320s which B6 has put in a low density seating config in order to fly transcon.
Yet US's current A321s fly every day from PHL to SFO without problems in a not-particularly low density configuration...
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2643 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 11642 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 14): It was included in the announcment of the big Aorbud order a while back.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11054 times:
Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 10): US does DCA-PHX on a 183 or 187-passenger A321 from the 6800' DCA runway.
That route has been 757s since before the USAir-AmericaWest merger. I watched it push back at gate 42 last Saturday (My flight -- 3183 -- was the next flight at that gate).
Now I'm not saying it's never scheduled as a 321, since there were 321s at other C concourse gates.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11021 times:
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11001 times:
cotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10679 times:
I haven't heard anything about a first, or business product. Of course we will have Even more space seating on the aircraft, but that's still econ to me.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9638 times:
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6863 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9373 times:
Quoting UALWN (Reply 15): Yet US's current A321s fly every day from PHL to SFO without problems in a not-particularly low density configuration...
And PHL-LAX, but you must have missed the memo. The A321 uses a catapult just to get off the ground and it faces a strong tailwind in both directions. It's the only way it can fly transcon non-stop.
25 kgaiflyer: I'd like to be there when that happens. Also, PHL's longest runway is 10,506 ft at 36 feet in elevation. On what grounds would a catapult be needed?[
26 xaapb: I'm curious dose the passengers know in advance they will have to land in DEN, or at sometime during the flight the crew announces that they will hav
27 richierich: I agree... people just interject their own ideas as if fact! I do it all the time, ha! Tease! But I think it is safe to guess that maybe there is mor
28 futureatp: One thing to consider when comparing the DCA-PHX, or any east coast route to PHX vs. the West Coast is IFR conditions. If the California destination i
29 BOStonsox: Ok, so from what I've read on other threads in the past: -The A320s that B6 use occasionally make tech stops for refueling. -The A321 has a shorter ra
30 N766UA: I think he means air bud, like the golden retriever.
31 strandedinbgm: Cranky Flyer quotes an internal memo from Dave Barger where he states that the 321 "can do really well flying between the Northeast/South US and Latin
32 UALWN: No. US's A321s have been operating PHL-SFO and PHL-LAX for years without trouble.
33 womenbeshoppin: Ive said it in a previous forum and I will say it again. I have worked countless PHL-SFO PHL-LAX 321's. It was very very common for those planes to g
34 PHLwok: And this has come up in many threads in the past month. I don't know why folks think the 321 can't do these routes, since they've been doing so for a
35 astuteman: Because it is an A-net "fact", like this one... nominal range of an A320 with CFM-56 5B engines and no sharklets.... 3 050 Nm at 75.5t TOW and 150 pa
36 ASA: Greetings to you too ... Both times, the pilot informed us over midwest that we'll have to stop in DEN ... approximately an hour before landing there
37 spiritair97: I actually was passing RIC driving from SC to NY in April and there was bad weather at IAD, too. There were about 15 planes diverted to RIC in the 15
38 RayChuang: Like most here said, the A321's will be assigned primarily between JFK/BOS and Florida destinations given the large number of Northeasterners who vaca
39 Darksnowynight: Right. The 321 can hold over 52,000lbs of fuel, IIRC, with the ACTs installed. In DCAs case, the that probably means some small weight restrictions o
40 BOStonsox: Ok, looks like the info I had seen elsewhere was outdated, initially the A321's range was shorter than the A320's. This was because the A321-100 wasn'
41 mingocr83: Those are the A321 Enhanced, new A321s on the US Fleet..
42 wn676: There are times periodically throughout the year when they do not operate 757s between PHX and DCA. This year, they've operated them from about mid-A
43 wn676: Which have essentially the same specs as the rest of the aircraft in the fleet. Operationally they aren't that different.
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