rampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2851 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2568 times:
On the obscure airports (the ones Allegiant use ) that don't have a mouse-over identification on A.net, it;s helpful to spell out the airport or city name. And since topic titles don't have mouseovers, spelling out would be good, too. Just suggesting, don't mean to nag, thanks!
I'm assuming this will be a Canadian draw, Montreal to Las Vegas, as I can't imagine enough market from little old Plattsburgh. I'm also therefore assuming that the border process is worth it??
mark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2547 times:
I figured if you opened the link, it would be spelled out for you. Anyway, they limit you on how many characters you can use in the subject line. Even if I abbreviated Allegiant to G4, it still would'nt let me spell out Plattsburgh.
mark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2497 times:
Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 3): What aircraft will G4 use for this route? Seems a bit far for an MD80.
Will be the 757. We were told at the manager's conference last week to be watching for several announcements using the 757 on additional mainland flying
tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2297 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
Quoting mark8762 (Reply 4): Will be the 757. We were told at the manager's conference last week to be watching for several announcements using the 757 on additional mainland flying
Confirmed- did a mock booking and the seat map is a 757.
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
Quoting mark8762 (Reply 4): Will be the 757. We were told at the manager's conference last week to be watching for several announcements using the 757 on additional mainland flying
Maybe we could see the resumption of routes like GSP-LAS and FWA-LAS? Naturally, I'm hoping for the latter.
mark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2199 times:
The RON is due to block time, the crew wouldnt be legal to fly the return trip. This is circumvented on the Hawaii runs by scheduling 2 captains and a FO that rotate around every couple of hours on the way there and back. Not sure why they arent doing this same thing on the PBG runs. The way Hawaii is scheduled may change when the crew base in Hawaii opens.
B595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 299 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
There was speculation a couple years ago in a thread devoted to PBG that Allegiant would eventually run PBG-LAS when it got suitable, longer-range aircraft (it only had MD80s at the time of that older thread). Well, sure enough. It's fun to see the route come to fruition.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2118 times:
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6): Maybe we could see the resumption of routes like GSP-LAS and FWA-LAS? Naturally, I'm hoping for the latter.
Maybe we could see MYR-LAS with the 757s, too? I really hope that the 757s and a319s help G4 build up their longer route network, such as east coast to LAS and AZA, and hopefully let us smaller-airport spotters get some 757s to see!
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6363 posts, RR: 34 Reply 13, posted (7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
Quoting mark8762 (Reply 8): The RON is due to block time, the crew wouldnt be legal to fly the return trip. This is circumvented on the Hawaii runs by scheduling 2 captains and a FO that rotate around every couple of hours on the way there and back. Not sure why they arent doing this same thing on the PBG runs.
I don't exactly understand that, either. LAS-PBG would work very well as a red-eye. But if they're not concerned about aircraft time (i.e. the fleet has slack), hotel rooms in PBG plus per diems are probably cheaper than the extra captain.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 15, posted (7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1922 times:
Supposedly there is some G4 shopping going on for more 757s (and more A319s). Combined with the first A319s entering service in 2Q 2013 we will likely see more of these longer domestic flights being added.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
mark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1848 times:
Here is the official Press Release. Note they make mention of Celine Dion and Cirque du Soleil in case you were wondering about attracting Canadian business for the new service.
ALLEGIANT ANNOUNCES NONSTOP, LOW-COST TRAVEL BETWEEN PLATTSBURGH AND LAS VEGAS WITH $150.00* INTRODUCTORY ONE-WAY FARES
Plattsburgh NY – 26 September 2012 – Allegiant (NASDAQ: ALGT) announces today new, nonstop jet service between Plattsburgh and Las Vegas beginning Dec. 19, 2012. The company, known for its exceptional travel deals, will introduce the new service with fares as low as $150.00* one way.
“We are pleased to announce another affordable and convenient travel option for residents of the Plattsburgh and Montreal region,” said Andrew C. Levy, Allegiant Travel Company President. “We are confident these communities will appreciate our affordable, nonstop service to Las Vegas, as well as take advantage of the value of booking hotel rooms, car rentals and attractions through us."
The new flights will operate twice weekly between Plattsburgh International Airport (PBG) and McCarran International Airport (LAS) beginning Dec. 19, 2012.
"With this new service, Celine Dion and Cirque du Soleil will have a new and affordable way to consider going to work in Las Vegas, and thousands of Montrealers and others who have been asking about Vegas will be able to get there through Plattsburgh, Montreal's U.S. Airport," said Garry Douglas, President of the North Country Chamber of Commerce, which serves as the Marketing and Development agency for Plattsburgh International Airport. "Las Vegas has been the most requested destination from the beginning, and we know this operation will be another success for both Allegiant and Plattsburgh.”
Plattsburgh travelers can take advantage of everyday low fares and save even more when they book air, hotel, car, activity and attraction reservations together. Reservations can be made on the company’s website at allegiant.com or by calling the company’s travel experts at 702-505-8888.
“We are excited to welcome Plattsburgh to our ever-evolving partnership with Allegiant," said Cathy Tull, senior vice president of marketing for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority. "Every new destination that is added to the schedule provides additional flexibility and more options for travelers."
With world-renowned resorts, spas, casinos, and entertainment options for visitors of all ages, Las Vegas is one of the most dynamic travel destinations in the world. Allegiant partners with more than 60 of the area’s most exciting hotel properties, provides low-cost car rental service through its partnership with Alamo Rent a Car, and offers great deals on activities such as show tickets and helicopter tours. Plattsburgh travelers can book their entire Las Vegas vacation for less by visiting allegiant.com.
About the $150.00* one-way fares:
Seats are limited. Fares are one-way and not available on all flights. Flights must be purchased by Oct. 3, 2012, for travel by April 16, 2013. For baggage fees, please visit allegiant.com. Additional restrictions may apply.
Allegiant, Travel is our deal.®
Las Vegas-based Allegiant Travel Company® (NASDAQ: ALGT) is focused on linking travelers in small cities to world-class leisure destinations. Through its subsidiary, Allegiant Air, the company operates a low-cost, high-efficiency, all-jet passenger airline, and offers other travel-related products such as hotel rooms, rental cars, and attraction tickets through its website, allegiant.com. The company was ranked ninth in the 2011 Forbes’ Best Small Companies list. Allegiant was also recently named one of FORTUNE magazine’s “100 Fastest-Growing Companies” for the second consecutive year.
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1812 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
I figured a route like this would have waited for the 319's to come online.
How many 757's does G4 have now and how many more are on order? I saw 4 757's sitting on the ground yesterday at LAS and figured there were probably 1 or 2 more somewhere else in the system.
mark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
Quoting LV (Reply 18): How many 757's does G4 have now and how many more are on order? I saw 4 757's sitting on the ground yesterday at LAS and figured there were probably 1 or 2 more somewhere else in the system.
The 4 you saw are the only ones currently in the system. There are 2 more coming by the end of the year, or beginning of next.
FlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
Quoting mark8762 (Reply 4): Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 3):
What aircraft will G4 use for this route? Seems a bit far for an MD80.
Will be the 757. We were told at the manager's conference last week to be watching for several announcements using the 757 on additional mainland flying
That makes sense since this route starts too early for the A319 fleet. I see PBG is a former AFB with a nearly 11,758 x 200' runway. I see PBG is marketed as "Montreal's U. S. Airport."
FlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1493 times:
Quoting SSTeve (Reply 22): Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 21):I see PBG is marketed as "Montreal's U. S. Airport."
BTV gets a lot of Montreal traffic, too. Because it has far more airlines serving it.
Burlington, VT is a bigger city too. I can remember reading about how PeoplExpress flights to Newark drew a lot of Montreal passengers.
mjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 319 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1359 times:
Quoting SSTeve (Reply 22): BTV gets a lot of Montreal traffic, too. Because it has far more airlines serving it
However, if you count the NY and DC airports as one the difference is not that great. Seems like PBG has what airlines want right now and BTV does not...
Maybe I'll at least get to see one of those 757's on a diversion sometime. Even an A319 would be welcome.