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Jet Airways To Start BLR-MUC  
User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6343 times:

Hi,

Rumors regarding 9W and Munich have been around for a long time. Although I don't think they will ever build a hub there as rumored, it looks like they're starting their first flight to MUC this Winter.

According to MUC airports website, 9W 152/153 will be connecting MUC and BLR daily. The interesting thing is that these flights are scheduled to depart and arrive at Terminal 2 which is exclusive to Lufthansa, Star Alliance and Lufthansa partner airlines. The flight is also timed for connections with LH's North America departures and arrivals. I'm guessing that at the very least this means that we will be seeing code sharing between LH and 9W, but its also a step towards Star.

Link: Seasonal Flight Plan MUC

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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3259 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6136 times:

Well - let's see if something actually happens. But if this is true, it probably points to the following:

* 9W joining *A
* 9W/LH code sharing (at least) on all flights to-from India, and 9W code sharing on further connections from MUC
* 9W dropping BRU entirely - moving BOM/DEL to MUC as well - and probably starting other Indian cities to MUC
* Hopefully a deeper relationship with LH - some type of JV ideally.
* Hopefully OS/ LX also join the party

From what I could make out, the flight is due to start 14-March-2013.



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User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4802 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

whats the exact schedule of 9W 152/153 please...thanks

User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 362 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

Thanks for the info.

Quoting bavair (Thread starter):
The flight is also timed for connections with LH's North America departures and arrivals.

Actually most of LH MUC North American departures are in the afternoon and the return too arrives towards the afternoon. I am guessing this timing will allow Jet to capture Europe bound traffic.

Bangalore is a major hub for German companies. Bosch, which is HQed at Stuttgart, being the largest. Other European companies also have offices in Bangalore, and Munich, IMHO, is a better transit hub in terms of smaller size, shorter distances, etc. when compared to FRA.



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User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 362 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

Quoting behramjee (Reply 2):
whats the exact schedule of 9W 152/153 please...thanks

9W154 departs Bangalore 04:05 arrives Munich 08:35
9W153 departs Munich 12:00 arrives Bangalore 02:40 the next morning
Full details are on my site.  



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User currently offlineblrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5355 times:

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 3):
Actually most of LH MUC North American departures are in the afternoon and the return too arrives towards the afternoon. I am guessing this timing will allow Jet to capture Europe bound traffic.

I think LH is playing very smart with 9W. If the 9W flight was timed to match the NA arrival/departure bank at MUC, it would have eaten into LH's BLR-FRA-NA share. So looks like they have prevailed upon 9W to time their flights to MUC at a different time??

I don't think this will work out well for 9W unless it times to the NA flights.


User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 362 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

Quoting blrsea (Reply 5):
I think LH is playing very smart with 9W. If the 9W flight was timed to match the NA arrival/departure bank at MUC, it would have eaten into LH's BLR-FRA-NA share. So looks like they have prevailed upon 9W to time their flights to MUC at a different time??

I concluded the same thing in my article. Unfortunately, A.net rules do not allow me to post content here, so I only invite you to visit. I am awaiting some more information then will try to do an analysis.



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

Quoting blrsea (Reply 5):
I don't think this will work out well for 9W unless it times to the NA flights.

I don't understand why 9W is not considering Skyteam offer of JV. The BLR-MUC flight timing suggest that LH is unlikely to offer a JV to 9W.


User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

Quoting blrsea (Reply 5):

I think LH is playing very smart with 9W. If the 9W flight was timed to match the NA arrival/departure bank at MUC, it would have eaten into LH's BLR-FRA-NA share. So looks like they have prevailed upon 9W to time their flights to MUC at a different time??

I don't think this will work out well for 9W unless it times to the NA flights.

As I said before, these departure times do tie in with LH NA flights. The thing is that LH has 2 main banks for North America in Munich. This flight would fall into the earlier one, which works for the flights to CLT, ORD, JFK, PHL and IAD as well as the UA flight to EWR and AC to YYZ. This makes the flight mostly viable for US East coast as well as all European feeder flights which is quite a good positioning.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5295 times:

Quoting bavair (Reply 8):
As I said before, these departure times do tie in with LH NA flights. The thing is that LH has 2 main banks for North America in Munich. This flight would fall into the earlier one, which works for the flights to CLT, ORD, JFK, PHL and IAD as well as the UA flight to EWR and AC to YYZ. This makes the flight mostly viable for US East coast as well as all European feeder flights which is quite a good positioning.

Thanks for sharing. Timing makes more sense now.

I wonder if 9W will offer its own bank from MUC to SFO/LAX? Will LH be supportive?


User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 9):

Thanks for sharing. Timing makes more sense now.

I wonder if 9W will offer its own bank from MUC to SFO/LAX? Will LH be supportive?

I doubt LH would allow this. However, a second flight or bigger equipment to one of the westcoast destinations is long overdue. At certain times of the year its almost impossible to get a ticket short term.
With the feed from 9W an additional flight from either LH or 9W shouldn't be too hard to fill without having a too large drop in yield.


User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Jet Airways and Lufthansa announce frequent flyer partnership
I guess this was to be expected from the start. Great news for both airlines tho!


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3259 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

Quoting bavair (Reply 11):
Jet Airways and Lufthansa announce frequent flyer partnership
I guess this was to be expected from the start. Great news for both airlines tho!

This goes back almost a decade - announced "03 May 2006"!



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User currently offlinebavair From Germany, joined Jul 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
Quoting bavair (Reply 11):
Jet Airways and Lufthansa announce frequent flyer partnership
I guess this was to be expected from the start. Great news for both airlines tho!

This goes back almost a decade - announced "03 May 2006"!

You're right, sorry. I saw the link in another forum and copied it without paying attention to the date.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3259 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

An update - I hear (unsubstantiated rumor) that LH/9W's cooperation is not yet firmed up for the BLR-MUC sector, and that LH expects to treat this as "competition" for the moment. However from what I could make out, 9W's currently firm on launching this routing in the S13 schedule.


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